Haha its funny associating that with your avatar, it just works! 
tried looking at the T.Hawk strats and I still canāt beat this prick. frustrating as hell
I played a Hawk today and yeah it was a pain, and I think his throws beat Hakans, is that right? It seemed like it. I noticed it wasnt so bad playing the poking games, but as soon as he started his shenanigans it was bad news 
Hawk is pretty free when heās not in. As soon as he gets a kd, though, itās a bitch to get out.
Pick U2 to stop crossup BS on wakeup.
Punish blocked dives with hk oil dive (you probably wonāt get to do this often so make it count)
Punish a whiffed s.hk on reaction with slide.
You can A2A his jump on reaction with j.mp, j.hp, j.lp, etc.
Oil full screen, space him out with s.fp, s.mp, etc. You can use well spaced oiled f.rh to snipe him occasionally.
For slide pressure, you can play it safe and back the fuck away (or get out of the corner if youāre there), or practice your safe oil timing and backdash.
When he does knock you downā¦ Just learn when to upback. Thatās really all that can be said. You might wish to mess around with Hawk to learn some of his common ticks and stuff so you can recognize them.
is doing an oil dive on a blocked hawk dive better than a slide? I prefer knocking him down but sometimes i screw up keeping him knocked down. A blocked j.rh usually leads to me getting stuck without taking advantage. I just back off for fear of Hawk SPD ridiculous damage. If a whiffed uppercut than i fail to punish because of stupid whiffed spd
eh, its mostly execution with me right now. I need to fight more T.Hawks to get used to punishing better. I usually feel so desperate to get damage in because the fucker is such a tank that i mess up my inputs. One fuck up and heāll even it up. uuuuggghhhhhh
Well with Oil Dive you take him to the corner, and you donāt have to worry about execution much.
From what Iāve tested, Hakanās f.LP beats all versions of E.Hondaās Sumo Headbutt clean, including EX.
I always thought c.LP was the go-to move for beating headbutts. Iāll give f+LP another try.
Jump LK eats it up too, as long as heās not invincible.
Honda? Oh lawd. Aight, heres some stuff.
Post slide wakeup:
whiff c.lk/s.lp/s.lk(doesnt matter which really) and time a j.mk. I believe depending on the timing determines if it crosses up or not.
Thatās not the best part though.
Option select HP slide after the jumpin.
OS catches:
Backdash
EX Buttslam
MK Buttslam
ALL Headbutts.
Hereās the thing: on the OS slide, do not input the press followup. Why? Wellā¦
On all reversal headbutts that naked slide hits, it puts Honda in a juggle stateā¦
A juggle state that can be followed up by u2. Yeah.
So after you catch any headbutts, mash on that u2 and youāll get yourself a nice little combo.
Iām not sure if it works against MP headbutt, but Iām positive it works on all the others.
Also: MK/HK Buttslam can get Honda out. However:
IF you OS LP slide rather than HP slide, it changes a bit.
LP Headbutt: Hit by slide.
MP Headbutt: Not hit by slide, not punishable with U1, but SAFE.
HP Headbutt: Not hit by slide, punishable by U1.
LK Buttslam: Is a douche and trades with slide.
MK Buttslam: Hit by slide.
HK Buttslam: Not hit by slide, punishable by U1.
Backdash: Hit by slide.
Super: Whiffs, punishable by slide on reaction.
Ultra: Whiffs, punishable by slide on reaction.
Crouching normals: Hit by j.mk.
Jumping: Hit by j.mk.
Yeah, thats if you have u1. But eh.
Liquigenā¦ That is just fucking gdlk. Definitely going to incorporate this into my game.
In other news, I found out that if you and your opponent are at max distance, and you LP-Slide, it will leave you in perfect range for a st.HP. This is given that he doesnāt move. Also, if you pause a bit after the slide, youāre in max range for an oiled up Oil Rocket.
Unlblockable j.rh vs Seth:
Slide > press, whiff s.mk, time a j.rh correctly. Timing is kinda strict. Yeeaaaaaaah. -shades-
Oh, right:
-Avoids SRKs.
-Blocks EX Legs
-Canāt be blocked.
-Can only combo into s.lk or s.lp or other 4 frame normals (i think)
-Hits him during backdash. The GROUNDED part. So you can combo him from it. lmao
-He HAS to down back. He cant even buffer from a shoryu from it (or so Iāve found).
-Ultras whiff, super is beat.
Have fun.
Are you testing on training mode with the āAll Blockā setting active? I have tested other āunblockableā setups that can be blocked.
Are you sure its an unblockable instead of an ambiguous jump?
I tested with me as Seth attempting to do everything.
vs. Zangief
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[]Do not focus attack close range.
[]st.HP is a Godsend in this match. Use it. Abuse it. DNC with it. Stuff lariats with it. Push away green hands on reaction with it. Trade/beat out jump-in attacks with it.
[]Mix that st.HP up with a dash in command grab.
[]For punishing purposes, MK if you want a full oil, HK if you want to give him the threat of a meaty oil dive.
[]Never jump at him. Ever. EVER. No matter how bad or good the Zangief, they have never failed to lariat my jump-in, and when they do, thatās how they get in and start their scary mix-up.
[]If heās walking back and forth and isnāt crouching much, sometimes a random HP Oil Slide will make him respect you. If it does land, itāll make footsies easier for you.
[]Give him the threat of a meaty Oil Dive. After the Oil Press, backdash and time the Dive.
[]If you conditioned him with Dives, you can just pause after the backdash and punish all his reversals. If he neutral jumps, fwd.MP. If he jumps backwardā¦
[*]Super is awesome to save up for, you can punish almost any move he does on wake-up with it. You can react to his jump backs, pause a little when you activate it, and catch him before he hits the ground. Watch out if he has U2 though.
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HAkan has quasi-unblockables sometimes. When a human holds a direction to try and block, Hakan will switch sides accordingly and hit them in the other direction. In order to block these, they have to block at the very last second (sort of like a just defend).
So itās not truly unblockable, which is why āAll Blockā will always block them, and why when you want to test these in training mode, you have to record Hakan doing the setup and try to block it yourselfā¦ This is pretty much how I test all my setups now. lol
I actually came up with a recording of Liquigenās post slide setup against Honda that was a quasi-unblockableā¦ I havenāt yet been able to recreate it though. :sad:
These unblockables are probably a one-frame ālinkā, so to speak.
Oh! About thisā¦ When you do the slide+pres > whiff s.MP setup vs Cammy, you can do the far slide into U2 thing if she tries to cannon spike. Iāve also been able to link a f+RH too, but itās toughā¦
Iād love to be able to do AA slide > link another slide, but I canāt get it to work in this situation myself. Either way, slide into U2 always gets the oohs and ahhs.
Is it just me or is the j.rh crossup really easy on Bison?
So I got away from Hakan for a while, playing with a few other characters but Iāve started up again. (Killed my PP). Anyway, I discovered something interesting. When I first started Hakan (with no help from Shoryuken), I used to use FA as a wake-up regularly, and it regularly crumpled. Anyway, I discovered that if you do slide/press s. hp (a hk oil dive set up) and do an FA immediately after s.hp, it is a perfect lvl 1 FA wake up. With the tiniest delay, youāre more likely to crumple a wake-up jab, but it seems like the timing is an intended set-up to some degree. Anyway, since I discovered that you can FA, back dash to confirm crumple and jump back forward, land and do U2, I find this to be more useful than it was when I was using it back in the day. Iāve somewhat regularly used the FA wake-up, back dash confirm to do Hakanās super, but this could be done a lot more often, as the Ultra is much easier to obtain.
If nothing else, itās fun to land U2ās, isnāt it?
Kinda off topic, but I went to SEB (Southeast Battles) today, and I didā¦ Decent.
First played some Ryu. Took him out.
Then I played anā¦ Abel. Urgh.
I did pretty well first match. I won it, made tiny mistakes, but I won.
Second match I started doing worse, ended up losing.
Third match I like, did good one round, did bad the other. On match point, I pulled out a sweet sweet perfect win. Reason: I remembered meaty slide existed. LOL
So yeah, then I played JTO, a really really good Balrog, who is apparently one of the best from ATL. I didnāt do terrible really, I just kinda didnāt catch on as fast as Iād like.
I basically started getting the hang of him in thelast two rounds, but that wasnāt enough. I wasnāt prepared for his defense, lol. Simple as that. But, Iāve never met the guy, never seen him play, and hell, I didnāt even know what he looked like. And considering I wasnāt outright demolished, Iām okay with that. lol
My 4th match I went against in E. Honda. I lost, as expected, but I wasnāt really 100% on this one (there was like, 2 hours between my match against JTO and the Honda). That, and (a) the matchup is pretty bad, imo, and (b), I donāt know the matchup really at all. rofl
So yeahā¦ Definitely not bad, I did much better than my last showing, and I did decent vs. some of the better people here. I met some new faces, etc, and it was pretty good.
In short: fuck Abel, itās possible. Fuck Honda, heās stupid.