The Hakan General Discussion Thread

Classic Fighting Games Ultra Street Fighter IV
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I’ll take your guys’ word for it that lk oil is safe after slide. Guess I’ll have to work on the timing, it’s too important to just say it’s too hard to time and not bother with.

I might be at the thursday thing, can’t make it wednesday though. Thing is, yeah, i’ve found some tricks, but after i played some dudes on the very first day i got the game, i haven’t played anyone at all. today i played against a friend for an hour, and that’s it. just been too busy. so i’m pretty crappy right now. but yeah, i’m not as busy now, so i’ll come try to not suck so much.

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That’s great. I’ll see you there, man! I’ll be repping the NG-chars team with Hakan as well for the exhibition 5v5.

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i hafe archived some very very good wins since i build the c.HK into my gameplan it seems like a realy good normal specaly for tickthrow purposes and against Turtels

i hafe the feeling that if i move under a opponent as antiair with c.HK or f+MP the enemy hase advantage in frames can someone veryfy or deny this? (i always get trown later)

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Was playing my brothers T.Hawk yesterday, he used U1 right next to me, then immediately afterwards, I activated my U1. Mine won out O.O

Also, got a coward crouch > U1 off on his condor dive. They were some good matches, hopefully I can put them up.

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yeah, same happens vs. gief’s U1, Swoops.
He has the best Ultra grappling priority.

EDIT:

By saying “playing” your brother’s T.Hawk, you mean you played against him, and you just forgot to state that, right?

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I would really like to see that.

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Lmfao, I just caught an Adon out of Jaguar Revolver twice with 360lk online, too much fun.

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Try it the over way around and T.Hawk will probably win.

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Nope, just tested it. Hakan’s U1 still won. What’s weirder, I tested it against Hawk’s super as well. Both grabs whiffed.

I really want to know the properties of his U1, because it’s confusing as hell. I’ve had it beat by regular SRKs and other stuff, but it flat out beats Hawk’s ultra.

EDIT: Ugh…I’m getting all kinds of varied results, now I just had Hawk’s super beat Hakan’s ultra one time. And his EX SRK beats it sometimes, gets ultra’d some others

2nd EDIT: Just beat 'Giefs >__>

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That doesn’t make sense :confused:

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you have got to be timing it funny or something. What you should be testing is inputs done after the flash and right before it. They completely change what will happen, I really need to play around with U1 i just have way too much fun with U2.

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I know I’m not doing it that precise, lol. But if the super/ultra flashes occur immediately after or before one another, then that would mean I am timing it right, correct? I’m asking because I’m honestly not sure. If the super/ultra is 1+0 then they need to happen right next to each other, whether one comes before or after another.

What happened with Gief and Hawk’s ultras, was that Hakan’s ultra beat them out regardless of whether their ultra flash came before or after mine.

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thats really cool and good to know. thanks for testing.

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Hey swoops, can you input MK Super on reaction to Hawk/Zangief 720?

And maybe Hakan’s 720 is beating theirs because he’s out of their grab range? And maybe you weren’t using a normal that would’ve extended the 720 grab range?

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look, I had some fights with tataki that my zangief U1 was followed by his U1, and his U1, won.

it happened consistently and I was able to recreate it at the training room.

seems like hakan’s U1 is superior to all others.

zangief’s range is still the best, though, in terms of Ultra grab.

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does anyone have any advice about fighting Gen? I fought one today who kept crossing me up, I blocked it all but I couldn’t seem to punish anything he did, basically got destroyed

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No, I’ve tried it a few times, both in training mode and real matches, never seems to work.

Both characters were right next to each other. Hakan’s U1 is so weird. Especially looking at the hitboxes that were just put up. The range doesn’t make sense. Maybe it has some sort of dash like his oiled grab, but wouldn’t that make it something other than 1+0 frames?

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You would think unless the first frame literally warps him to a new spot. Which would mean that Zangiefs would whiff and Hakan would win. I guess.

Weird as hell.

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I need to get some games in with you, your the top non japanese hakan, every time i play with a japanese player from the top of the hakan leaderboards its 2 laggy to play.

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Best explanation thus far.
since his grab is sort of a small dash + grab.