They need to make things cheaper, not making things more honest lol.
Not a fan of patching outside of bugs
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Not sure why you wouldnât want a patch before EVO. Getting a huge patch that changes things up would be more interesting than watching Vegeta on every team.
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Having a huge patch before evo is the dumbest thing you could do actually. At least from a competitive standpoint
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It also fucks over teams depending on what happens in the patch.
âOh you built your team to have Gotenks restand loops? Guess what, youâre screwedâ
âHey that safe blockstring you had? Guess what now itâs -5â
âGot any infinites? Well fuck you super hardâ
Itâs not like Iâm saying I want a patch one day before EVO. This was the time for a big one. One month before EVO is still fine imo.
They could of compâd 16 in some way⌠make raw L SPD do 25% or something
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They couldâve buffed low tiers, though. I mean, I get that nerfing common characters before EVO is bad because it would rock things negatively, but buffing low tiers would only add to the diversity. This patch wonât do anything to character diversity and I already dread the Gohan/Cell/Vegeta mirrors.
Krillin, Teen Gohan, Beerus, Majin Buu, Nappa, Ginyu, Frieza, and Piccolo couldâve used SOMETHING to let them compete.
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Vegeta is still the best assist.
16 should get the hard knockdown outside of a combo or they should have nerfed his movement to compensate.
This isnât so much a balance patch as it is a statement about intended behavior. Loops and infinites are undesired, hard knockdowns must cost 3 bars.
The reflect changes could be interesting though; Iâm withholding judgement until we find out more specifics on block stun changes.
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Did Broly just get a buff by being able to cancel into supers off his specials? Yup, Iâll take that!
16, A. Gohan, Vegeta assist nerfs, cool. Cell being left alone is stupid as hell but oh well, Iâll deal.
The decreased Reflect sensitivity change is actually super good, at least for me if Iâm reading it correctly. Think it means you wonât get a second reflect to come out and whiff as easily which will allow you to H punish instead of deflecting nothing with a mashed second/third reflect.
People all doom and gloom up in here. We donât even know the extent of the nerfs. just what their framework is. Small changes can have big impacts, afterall, and the notes are intentionally vague.
wouldâve been nice if they gave his 236L armor if they take his hard knockdown away.
Reasonable patch. Was afraid they were gonna go ham on system changes.
Gohan nerfs were spot on, but they missed the mark with 16. Being a grappler he should have vortex and they should have looked at other places. Longer startup on SD, whatever made him more vulnerable to zoning.
The vegeta nerf is also a nerf to weaker characters who rely on him for a neutral game. I dunno how they can shorten blockstun while mainteining neutral usage
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They had no need to patch Cell.
Heâs already Perfect
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he got buffed dummy. Command grab no longer need the opp to be far far away or in the corner. sanicfox gonna love it with his untouched lockdown kbuu assist xD
Big winners: Cell, Kid Buu, Bardock
Winners: Broly
Still good (even with nerfs): A.Gohan, Gotenks, Vegeta
Still meh (even with buffs): Frieza, Beerus
Still meh: Everyone else
RIP 2018-2018 tier: A.16
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What were they thinking with doing such drastic changes with A16 (which played a key role in his game) without proper compensations? Now it would make sense if others around his level would have undergo similar actions as well, but this is a bit too much. At best, he now has good buttons as his main stand point along with 5L being a decent lockdown attack after a blocked Vanish Attack (and even this is not really consistent against backdashes sometimes).
It doesnât really affect me too much since Gotenks has been pretty fun to play on the side and the results/utilities seem really strong, but this might of made my mind to now 100% go with Cell/Gotenks/Vegeta team, replacing A16 with Gotenks.
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The 16 nerf is mostly weird because they didnât touch kid buu or cell, who seemed a lot stronger in the first place.
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patch notes suck
i would have been ok with 16 nerfs if gohan got real nerfs that actually mattered, or cell and kid buu got touched at all.
#JUSTICEFOR16
Sad times:
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