Ok.
Also you forgot to mention the nerf to Vegeta Assist
You right Iāll add it on.
tbh I donāt know how much a nerf that will actually be, it looks like you recover faster after blocking the assist but the main problem was how long the assist duration was in the first place.
16 was nerfed hard, think the other top tiers got off easy. Veg assist practically unchanged for anything besides lock down.
Low tiers look like they got at most quality of life adjustments. Very hard to tell what exactly was intended with many of the notes.
Looks like Cell is the undisputed king of this game now.
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Cell was also that guy at the top where thereās no one thing you can point at as being āthe problemā.
Thatās it for the balance patch? Incredibly dissapointing if true.
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ASW might be holding off on BIG changes til after the dlc season is over, which I wouldnāt blame them for.
Donāt forget EVOās not to far away either. Might be holding back changes for that reason too
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No free hard knockdowns changes a lot. 16 should be good still but without his stupid hard knockdown loop thereās no way he is top tier.
Iām wondering if the Vegeta assist nerf is even a nerfā¦ Iāll have to see it in action, if they accidentally made grab mixups easier that would be hilarious.
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I like how little they actually did with the balancing considering how young the game is, just disappointed with that picture showing all the characters being changed like it was gonna be a big thing and it ended up being just bug fixes.
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Oh I didnāt catch cancel on ki blasts removed if they get superdashed thatās a big one.
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https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/72745714/i-see-no-changes.jpg is this really this big change people kept messaging me about to get excited for? Really???
Maybe some hidden changes who knowsā¦ I will say though I think taken away cells telekenisis grab from behind is lame, its wacky and fun and doesnt break the game. Just something funny and potentially useful as a trick or sheninigan stupid to remove it. Getting rid of goku blacks bomb super loop is pretty lame too, its already hella obscure so seems lame to me. Hell a lot of these changes are pretty lame. Game needs MORE fun out of place stuff.
Getting rid of vanish off wiff stuff or whatever if im reading this correctly is lame. Its dragon ball people should be teleporting like jackasses why get rid of stuff that makes the game look and feel different? Again id the problem with the game is not so much DBFZ part of it if you will, but more so its the core fundamental aspects of fighting games.
Also they made reflect weaker harder to reflect a second time? What does that mean exactly?
Oh well
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Vegeta assist nerf most likely just means you have to do mix ups faster since the block stun will end earlier. Still most likely the best assist in the game considering it so far seems they did absolutely nothing to buff the other assists. 11 second wait for assists is still dumb. Especially considering assists deaths/happy bdays dont happen that much and everything that makes Vegeta assist tough to snipe is still mostly intact
Praying Zamasu doesnt die to super dash and vanish so the game gets something to a Magnus function. Cell staying good is good. Good characters should be good. Oh well 16
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I donāt agree with characters being good because of one overwhelming element to them though. Vergil was everywhere but he still never got the justifiable hate that MvC3 Phoenix got.
Thatās mainly because once you killed Vergil it was over. He couldnāt come back.
Which was Phoenixās one overwhelming reason: coming back as Dark Phoenix.
16 has a lot of decent stuff but everyone plays him for his Vortexing and no other reason. Iād rather have multiple bullet points for why I should play this character. Multiple facets of a character lead to new weaknesses along with their strengths, which allow more strategies for other characters to counterplay against.
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I donāt have a problem with 16 nerfs, except to ask why he was the only top character to get nerfed in his core gameplay.
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Was this supposed to be this big patch? Or can we expect more? Where are all those system changes we were supposed to get?
Really underwhelming if this is true. I will take any buffs to the low/mid tiers, but who thought Frieza was the one most deserving of a buff? There are so many characters worse than him and he just randomly gets buffed. Itās not a big buff, but it really makes me wonder if Bamco actually wants ArcSys to take powerlevels into account when balancing.
Also on the topic of EVO. It makes sense that they donāt want to mess with the game too much before it, but with the way this game is going right now we will get 5 characters in EVO top8, which is also something they donāt want to happen.
Seriously underwhelmed right now.
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Honestly that is more reason to put in some real buffs to bad characters. If the top end of evo is all the same gohan/cell/kid buu/vegeta/etc shit weāve seen a million times, it will be a bad look for the future of the game.