Mods gonna be busy tonight I tell yea.
But yea is there really gonna be exclusive gems for the certain stores you buy them from?
The purpose of the gems is about making the characters and their tools more versatile to suit your playstyle. Essentially making them more effective for you than they come right out of the box. What I feel is shitty about a character may differ from what you feel is shitty about the character. By giving us gems Capcom is giving you the ability to fix what you feel is wrong with your character. I think this is a huge step up compared to waiting and hoping they get around to patching it in themselves.
I see your concerns as I can’t even make sense of all the character changes Capcom decide to make in patches. But we do know from S-Kill that this is something they have been toying around with for at least 3 years. I’ll be really surprised if the character balance will be so tiered with gems in the mix. It’s very possible with so many varieties in gems that a gem which is a huge asset for say, Hugo could do absolutely nothing for Kazuya’s game. This whole system is about eliminating the black and white set in stone tier whoring and turning it all into a big gray area.
Personally I’m just really excited. As it is now, when I play AE I know all of my opponents frame data, speed, hit points and damage prior to battle regardless of their skill level. Thanks to gems, it’s more of a mystery. If I fight a Ryu player in sfXt with all different gems I have no idea what new options (combos, speed, footsies, etc) are now available to my opponent’s unique build unless I’ve practiced playing against him before. It’s just an interesting way to unlock your potential as well as your character’s potential.
This.
Besides some lunatics, few were complaining about Ssfiv. Then:
Bang: Have some twins, that no-one wanted, and they are also overpowered. And have some 2 useless characters that also no-one wanted. Ow one is a weaker Akuma wannabe and the other is just bad. And we gonna mess with the balance of this game for no particular reason.
Rose, you are too strong, give me that ultra 2 back and get nothing in return.
Gouken, what about some useless crap to make you still underselected?
Vega, sorry buddy your spot on the end of tier list is reserved.
Gen, why the hell we putted this character in the game again? Ow yeah have some useless stuff, and more coming in 2012.
Fei. Gosh you are too weak. You from hong kong and we love hong kong, what about some stuff to make you instantly S tier?
[FONT=Arial]I believe Seth once said[/FONT]
“Everyone will be able to chose from the same pool”
If you took more 5 minutes to read the past page you would see that i already said that:
‘‘That is the good point,
The bad point is the sheer amount of it (making the majority useless) and that most will have to be buyed in dlc’’
I read that best buy, gamestop, amazon, etc will all have different pre order gem sets from one another. Asides from the special edition which has every pre order set incuding one exclusive special edition only set of 9 gems.
high level mirrors are often quite exciting. They are, however, invariably boring if you are passively watching, and not understanding what is really happening.
they are the perfect 5:5. I though thats what you wanted?
hahaa
that balance.
When it stops being a valid point.
No one plays perfectly, of course, but is one really willing to spend the opportunity cost of a gem slot by putting in the Auto-Block gem, which might never come into play or take a meter or two just to keep you blocking, when you can instead keep improving your defense and not give up that slot and meter?
This is all not even taking into account that characters with weaker wake-up games might appreciate the gem more. Or that your opponent knows you have the gem and will deliberately play differently to render it useless or even a detriment. I’m simply saying the choice isn’t as plain cut as “must use,” given how it’s balanced at current.
this thread is out of control now…and it makes me think if im on Unity or not…actually…at least there wasnt so many people whining about the system there but rather people wanting to change it. there are few and far between people willing to try or accept this system.
and what D3V speaks of the matter of Match ups Vs Tiers, hes right more or less, and its why those games are played today for one reason or another. its a tireless argument that always ends in a mute point. Every fighting game will have tiers…every fighting game will have characters better then others…its something that seems unavoidable, but we still play them none the less. there are even people among us who love the challenge in fighting with low tier character to show that it does matter if you know the match up, as anything is possible and nothing is guaranteed…
it’s funny how you think that and then continue praising chocolate sf4’s balance, a game which was reasonably well balanced despite having a large roster.
your second point is an assumption based on little information, and when you assume you make an ass out of u and me.
Again, stop looking at it from a character standpoint, but look at it from a matchup standpoint.
Look at Formula 1 in the late 80s/early 90s.
Formula 1 1988 Season - Senna* vs Prost
Formula 1 1989 Season - Senna vs Prost*
Formula 1 1990 Season - Senna* vs Prost
Formula 1 1991 Season - Senna* vs Prost
(* denote that years World Drivers Champion)
Senna and Prost were winning everything, yet those were considered to be some of the most exciting seasons simply because both drivers were arguably the best at drivers at the time and each race was a hearwrenching battle between the two.
Look at Football. There were times when the FA Cup was dominated by either Manchester United and the finals usually involved only ManU, Chelsea or Arsenal yet you can’t dispute how exciting these matches were.
Same with the World Cup. Brazil vs. Argentina will always be a crowd pleaser because these are arguably the best Football playing nations in the world.
Having interesting matchups is more important than having alot of teams/characters reach the top.
Same with the gems. All we really need is for some really interesting matchups between certain builds. Besides, the fact that the gems allow for customization alone means that the metagame has even more space to evolve. However, the key is evolve. Have players fine tune and discover the best builds, don’t make it so that anyone can just put together any random build and win.
yeah sure.
Then lets make Street fighter: Chun-li
Why have som many characters and waste so much time in development while you can have only one?
Everybody is Chun-li
:oops:o_O
The majority of ssfiv characters were not useless. As i said, even Rose, a C tier was a decent and competitive character.About gems we already know that some will be useless like the auto-tech throwing one.
Yeah it an assumptiom based on recent capcom business decisions. They are even selling crap like ‘‘shadow events’’ i am willing to bet any amount you want that sets of gems will be sold as dlc.
great…they are going a FFXIII-2 with this Pre-order BS…i’ll settle with Gamestop this time around…for SFxTK…i have a interesting plan of attack to obtain all the Pre-order Incentives for FFXIII-2 and only end up paying $60~
If it’s not possible to have perfect defense, this is a must-have gem no? No matter how much you improve your defense, getting hit clean is always bad and almost always happens. In SF x Tekken, it leads to quite a bit of damage too. Footsies lead to chains, you can cancel into those tag team supers etc. Your question may be rhetorical, but surely the answer can’t be anything but yes when you weigh these two options. There may be fringe gem builds or gimmicks where you might not want to take this gem but other than that? Not seeing it.
Autoblock/Autotech shouldn’t be in there. I’m hoping these gems are removed. No matter the meter cost, it’s just bullshit. When gems start playing the game for you that’s where I draw the line.
I don’t give a shit about gems overall, they’re not going to make any difference to the game in the end, just so long as we don’t get auto this or that.
As i said, we have a disctinct idea of fun. F-1 for me was and will always be boring by the fact that constructors with money advantage end up being more sucessfull.There is nothing more unbalanced than F-1.
La liga, nowadays, is almost unwatchable for me. Barcelona and Real trashing all the other teams that struggle for 3rd and 4th places= boring championship.
There are a couple of things that we should reasonably expect from this game: the update isn’t going to address many major issues, bottom tier characters are going to lose stuff that the community found for them (i.e. The Gen Treatment), and lastly while Strawberry Milkshakes are god tier and so is Rocky Road ice cream, Rocky Road would not make for a good milkshake.