FF4-Cecil and Rosa were an item from the start and Rosa was pretty strong in her support role for Cecil in hard times storywise.
FF5-I never got which sister Butz ended up with. Lena or Faris?
FF6-We never know if Edgar scored on Tina. Yeah, Locke and Celes were an item but she isn’t the main so…
FF7-You could make a case Cloud wasn’t an emo in his relationship at all since he was amnesiac/Mako infected/mind controlled for most of the game. When he returned whole, he was adequate, so Cloud and Tifa was alright.
FF8-Yeah, Squall was emo king and Rinoa was wack. Moving on.
FF9-Zidane and Sarah was well done. Zidane grew a lot and learned from Sarah and viceversa. They paced it well.
FF10 and 10-2-Tidus and Yuna was interesting because of their x factors. When you sum both games and see how Yuna changed throughout and when she reunites with Tidus, is pretty well done as well.
FF12-N/A.
FF13-I hope Lightning doesn’t get the hots for Snow. That would be too predictable, LOL!
I confess when I was writing that post, emo Zidane did pop up to me, but the way Legend put it-
Is prob. what I was talking about. …and green rep for mentioning Dagger’s real name, I actually thought it was Maria :tup:
The pace of the relationship between the two felt a lot better IMO, than in any other FF where there’s a love relation between the hero and heroine.
yeah thats the one fight i never messed with in X-2 hence why i have like a 99 percent completion in that game. I heard you basically had to use like 3 Gunners with catnip accessory that does like 9999 per hit during Trigger Happy in order to stand a chance.
I will say the boss fight with the desert monster near the end of the game was a pain in the ass and long too. I basically used two dark knights and an alchemist healing at like every turn.
I think a lot of the reason Zidane and Garnets relationship was so well done was that Zidane didn’t hide that he was a guy. He flirted with her a lot and communicated with her. Hell ge grabbed her ass while getting on that little blimp. There wasn’t this last minute surprise that he or even she where into each other.
Also helps she wasn’t his only focus. He continued hitting on other girls and even asked Garnet out on a date he had already asked someone else on. So he didn’t act like she was the first girl he had ever seen before.
LOL, I don’t disagree with you that CC’s plot was convoluted at times, but I didn’t mind it that much.
YES. FFTA and FFTA2 and whatever the hell else they did was weak sauce. Other TRPG’s are also pitiful compared to the original FFT…the AI is terrible and they just focus entirely on grinding instead of strategy. I once won a losing battle in Front Mission 3 by ejecting my only surviving pilot and finishing the remaining mechs on foot with his dinky 9mm. That’s how bad other SRPG’s are.
FFT really needs a full fledged, proper, non-pussified sequel.
Well that’s the thing… FF8 is tedious as shit no matter what you do, especially in the early part of the game, but also pretty much constantly for the whole game. FFX is only tedious if you do the sidequest bullshit at the end.
Though, as tedious as FF10’s sidequest BS is, I did that stuff…whereas I never got past the 3rd disc of FF8. That’s how bad FF8 is.
You either love it or you hate it. Personally I loved it and still do, drawing magic was a bit of a bitch, but after playing RPG’s so much, you kind of expect the grind so it’s not so bad. Card game was cool, Junction system was extensive, overall a decent game I thought. I really liked the setting and the majority of the story, the whole “everyone knew everyone, just forgot” was some piece of BS, but besides that it was cool. Final Fantasy VII was the first FF I played, so I guss it’s natural to look up to it’s successor. I never did complete IX though, it was a nice game, I just don’t dig the fantasy style stories as much as I do the “cyber” type stories.
Orphanage scene? What orphanage scene? My main issue with FF8 was that the story seemed to work best when it was the Seed vs. Edea/Galbadia. Once Edea was out of the way and Ultimecia showed up, story just well, died. There also weren’t enough uber bosses in FF8. Omega was good but Ultima was a total joke.
Yeah, I agree. They did lose it a bit after that point, but I actually liked how they ended it. I certainly wasn’t expecting it… Ultima did suck though, I beat him with Lion Heart alone…
I never mentioned the word orphanage, I think he was joking…
I disagree on the love story part, I find there’s a connection between the two of them all the way through the game. Rinoa flirts a hell of a lot, it’s just Squall is too much of a dick and plays hard to get all the time…
Squall’s abrupt switching from “must not care” mode to “she’s everything to me” mode is pretty much the only thing I didn’t like about that game. It was so completely implausible.
There isn’t enough of a connection to warrant just dropping the plot in place of it.
This is pretty much what I mean. The entire first half of the game he’s like “WTF is wrong with this bitch”, and when you beat Edea and she faints he’s all “RINOA NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!” for no reason. And from that moment on, Rinoa’s all he’s got on the mind. It would have made more sense to have anybody but Rinoa pass out at that point, since he was building a deeper connection with them anyway.
That’s just him though, he’s a dick, he’s also a bit of a pussy who puts on a front. That’s the way I see it anyway, Squall to me in the beginning doesn’t know how to show his emotions, he just tucks himself away and bottles it up in side, keeping Rinoa hanging there on the side. She flirts more and more but he just keeps brushing her off. But you can tell he likes her, there’s a lot of subtle hints. It’s just not that important to him in the begining, but as the game goes on, she becomes more important to him and when it comes to the point where he might actually lose her, he cracks. It suddely becomes the most important thing to him in the world.
I don’t know, it’s been a while since I played it but their relationship is one of the things I actually like about the game, so I’ve thought about it quite a lot. I might actually give the game another run through, it’s arguably crazy to say it, but it is one of my favourite stories from all of the games I’ve played.
Trema was WTF broken. That asshole would stomp you flat before you even got the chance to do anything.
About Final Fantasy VIII, and Squall/Rinoa: Seems to me like most people don’t get how Squall operates. Demon Dash has it right on the nose; he purposefully kept everything inside and even though he did start having feelings for Rinoa he never told her, because he was afraid of getting too close to anyone (orphaned when Raine died/Laguna disappeared + Ellone getting jacked would give a kid trust issues). So when Rinoa went into the coma, he thought that he had blown his chance and all that shit he was holding back came to the surface.
That’s how he acts towards everything; doesn’t say much to the actual in-game person ("…", “whatever”, “talk to the wall”, etc.) but he says everything and then some to the player, because what Squall is thinking is what he’s actually “saying”.
I’ve always thought of this as well, and honestly, there are some peeps that I know who have this type of personality. They have the complete “I don’t give a shit” attitude, however when someone they supposedly don’t care about moves on or what not they’ll do a 180 turn and go “Wait, what?” moments and be all over that person. Even some whom were mess ups, and had no notion of doing anything with their lives, however they’ll meet the “right someone” and do a complete change of personality.
Squall to me as a character fits in one of these manners, where he simply struggles to be himself truly at the beginning. Remember, that as a child Squall was super clingy to Ellone as well, and when she was kidnapped (if my memory serves me correctly, been 8+ yrs since I last played VIII), Squall made a vow to conceal his emotions, and become the uptight person that we would see him at the beginning of VIII.
The dude was basically living a lie within himself until Rinoa just happened to come along and was able to push the right buttons to eventually get him to turn.
I don’t believe it’s that far fetched at all, and in my opinion is one of the nice pieces from VIII. Again, I really appreciated and enjoyed the Love relationship being the focal point, however alot of things annoyed me in that game. Like the magnitude of Sorceresses that you simply had to keep track of storyline wise, which resulted in me personally not giving a damn anymore by the time I got to the end to fight Ultimecia.
The antagonist in here did not have the same storyline impact as other previous antagonist, because of the way their plots were developed and hashed. In my opinion, that was one of the biggest blows to the storyline of VIII and why I didn’t appreciate it as much as some of the previous ones that came before it.
Another part, although maybe not as important…however it bored the day lights out of me, and seriously, I actually fell asleep because I was that tired of it. However if anyone remembers the “snipe the Sorcerer” scene, and then you had to get ready for it by running around with Rinoa’s father, and he was trying to explain it all to you. My goodness, that to me literally got me yawning, and had me wishing they had a fast forward button. Also never understood VIII’s summons of tapping square to do more damage either.
Like I said, VIII had alot of potential, but it’s direction simply wasn’t very well thought out of, although I will agree with someone who said earlier, the ending rocked, and VIII imo has one of the best FF endings ever.
