Колин выходит на Каток! The Character Discussion Thread

Poongko learned to be annoyingly mobile. Almost bodied Momochi too in Fighting SPIRIT with running all other the place. Something you would expect of Infiltration.
https://youtu.be/UrAyUIHTM5U

in this game tournament ready = easy lol. and kolin is far from easy. as soon as chun needed optimization to play ricki suffered hard. i think she’s more than capable as is but people with real CPT prospects would rather put the time they need to put into her, towards optimizing their mains further instead. imo poongko has nothing to lose at the moment and he looks like he’s having fun which is going a long way but he’s still not fully optimized her imo.

i personally think its absolutely bonkers to release characters and patches in the middle of a competitive season. DLC characters always need time and community effort to catch up to the other characters… which is why everyone said guile, ibuki, and balrog were trash when they came out.

Dayum! Against the best Mika no less

Patches in the middle of the season is bad i agree. Unless they seriously fix something.

But what are alternatives for characters? Releasing characters in a bundle in the beginning of the season has it’s downsides too. It’s bad for sales. And it’s bad for character analysis since it’s too much to proccess for lab monsters at once. People would quickly dismiss some characters to concentrate on others and we would have same situation - someone would talk shit about character nobody knows how to play properly.

The only way to make people massively switch to DLC chars that are not legendary is to make them obviously overpowered. It’s what they actually did in the beginning of a season 2. And it would be good if they switched all back in the patch after a month or 2, which they wanted to do but didn’t. Now it’s kinda late for patching. And also if Guile and Urien will be toned down, it doesn’t seem so for Balrog and Ibuki.
If they were releasing them overpowered - that would be even worse for competitive play.

So what i’m trying to say that the plan how they tried to do it was good: release mid/upper mid characters, overbuf them in new season, tone down in the patch. If it was done like that.

anyone know if there are changes/tweeks to Kolin in the beta? i hear Gief got a new move.

None.

Though I hope they at least fixed the camera angles during her intro and victory pose when she’s wearing the nostalgia outfit.

Nicely done. Mika feels like on of her best matchups. Her go-to pressure moves are all mids so she has to respect the counter or go for throws which are risky to say the least. Kolin also blows up charged and uncharged HK with her V-Skill so Mika loses one of her best get-in tools.

yunno what i discovered recently?

that you can kick through Guile’s v skill using her back+hk.
you’ll trade hits.
but you will trade in your favor.

just a heads up/reminder.

Can’t you jump on reaction from that distance?

You can but if he’s not doing the follow-up you’re going to eat a flash kick.

does she have any airborne frames with her overhead? cuz i keep getting thrown out of it.

I think its like Laura’s, it doesn’t activate until way later in the animation. So even if you see her throwing herself in the air it still counts as grounded and they can stick their foot out or snatch you out the air because hurtbox. eye roll

https://fullmeter.com/fatonline/#/framedata/Kolin/blizzard%20heel

there’s no airborne frames unless the slight chance FAT forgot it. but i’ve never seen her or been air reset out of her overhead so ive been thinking of no airborne or anti-throw frames as a fact. actually i wish it were like laura’s overhead so it would catch people jumping away…

EDIT: okay i watched this and it clearly does go airborne lol… but i dont know what to believe.

she seems to whiff ex parabellum>qcb+mk>down+hk in the corner. and when i mean whiff i mean she goes past the opponent and gets stuck in the corner. drives me nuts.
edit. maybe i’m just mistiming it. maybe i need to hit cr. hk sooner.

also…

all this time i thought only ex vanity step goes through fireballs.

http://i.imgur.com/uJ4WclE.gif

you can do cr.hp for a reset in the corner, perfect range for grab/shimmy and can meaty them too

It’s st.HP, right? IIRC cr.HP or any crouching attack for that matter whiffs in the corner.

https://youtu.be/l07NvBuTVp0

https://youtu.be/FxHqUZpOHT4

It’s rough out there for Kolin…

Gief can be hard to deal with but Akuma isn’t that big of an issue I think.

You think Gief is bad matchup for Kolin? Because she has no true reversal to interrupt his grab mixups?
I thought because of counters and vskill she can stop his st.HP game entirely and his pokes wall gets riskier too. Also her LK.Step helps to create distance, double jump to jump of the corner. He can’t headbutt her projectile to get meter. HP.Counter is good against splash. And her oki is very good to abuse his weak defence. So she should be harder to close on and pin down for him than others. Doesn’t it balance lack of true reversal?

Or are you talking in general? HP.SPD mixup to death works agains all of the cast with correct reads.

Gief is a hard matchup for several characters. And now that he’s getting even more buffed…