The Boxing Thread

Y’all Going into this too much.

It’s incredibly easy to see why Defensive boxing isn’t every ones cup of tea. It’s not the most interesting thing to watch unless you really dig the entire science behind it, but most people don’t give a real fuck about that, and care more about people just bashing each others skulls in until one of them falls down. If you enjoy the science behind it then great, good for you! But remember your ass is in the minority with the people who like the two of them duking it out mid ring the majority.

I’m happy that I can appreciate both. I enjoyed both the Mayweather Pacman fight and this fight. Canelo fucking dismantled him.

That was a vicious KO man…

lol ive seen it all now

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Wtf, that nigga did the Punch Out. You could make a random beat, have “Do The Punch Out” as the hook and just having twisting and falling from different angles as the music video for the next club banger.

lol wut. Kirkland was knocked the fuck out.

What does Oscar being a cross dresser have to do with Kirkland getting knocked out? Iirc Kirkland fired Wolfe and that’s on him. Fights happen different ways because Canelo went in and knocked him out does not make him any less of a boxer. It was obvious that Kirkland was outmatched but it is what it is.

Posts like this is what scares me. Where are all the men? What kind of man would think that actual fights with men punching each other for blood is not the true aspect of the sport?

Because this sport is an art. It’s professional, and classic. Not a bloody barbaric cage show where people play rock’em sock’em robots for casual spectators that are too dumb to understand the REAL aspect and meaning of the sport of boxing. Again, if you wanna see a talentless bloody slug fest…UFC is over there —>

And before the casual white knights come swoggin my dick again about it. Of course. Styles make fights. Not EVERY boxer is of a Floyd Mayweather, Andre Ward, Lara, Rigondeaux, etc caliber type obviously. But they’re on TOP of their respected divisions and put those “Rock’em sock’em” flat footed 1 dimensional stationary boxers in their rightful goddamn places every time for a reason. Because they know REAL boxing. They eat brawler punchers for breakfast.

Brawling and just swinging for the fences in hopes you get lucky doesn’t win you fights and is NOT what boxing is about. (We’ll get back to that agenda later) Sure, it may LOOK good to the casual fans that again, don’t understand the sport. However, that CAN win you fights only IF you’re against another brawler puncher type (As Just seen with last nights fight). But against a technical boxer thought? Brawler punchers get owned and put in their place every single time because they (Technical boxers) know how to nullify the brawler punchers main and ONLY weapon of arsenal…punches in bunches by clinching and evading. They (Brawler punchers) will eventually punch themselves out, and commence to eat counters and get evaded all night…Or get knocked out. Whichever comes first. THAT’S BOXING! And THUS the “running” and “hugging” arguments / excuses from casuals that don’t understand the sport was born. Which is ALSO part of the “agenda” which im about to get into right now.

Oscar and his company are doing just that. Their agenda is to appease to the casual fan that don’t know shit. Thus destroying the TRUE meaning of the sport of boxing. And with Canelo. Canelo is Oscars GBP’s mascot. He literally is GBP’s “Pacquiao” and he’s gonna be like that for a long while. And it’s because of that he WILL be pampered, protected, and get gift bullshit decision like when Lara beat his ass but still won cuz he had papi oscar gift card in his pocket.

THAT’S why I have hella bones to pick with Oscar and his company, and canelo since that’s basically his main tool. So of course he’s gonna get it too. So if you MUST know why the “hate” is strong, there you go.

CANELA & OSCARINA SHOULD BE ASHAMED FOR FIGHTING ANGULO A SEMI RETIRED FIGHTER & NOW KIRKLAND ANOTHER SEMI RETIRED FIGHTER WHO HADNT FOUGHT IN 2 YEARS AND WITHOUT ANN WOLFE! RIP GOLDEN GURL.

So yeah, sure im in the minority. And people wonder why the sport of boxing is “dying”. It’s “dying” because of dumbass casual fans that don’t know shit about the sport of boxing are REWRITING the meaning and aspect of it to fit their agenda since they’re too lazy to actually sit down, learn, and study what the sport of boxing is REALLY about.

So again, if you wanna be like that, and all you care about in my sport is seeing “rock’em sock’em robots”…please stop watching my sport. Go over to UFC with the rest of the causal beer belly drinkers where you get just what you’re looking for. This sport actually REQUIRES talent and professional class WAY beyond your comprehension. =/

Boxers and boxing expert analyses like Paulie Malignaggi and Teddy Atlas retweet me all the time cuz I know what the fuck im talkin about.

Bring it.

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Speaking of that photo I posted Paulie retweeted. Casuals and casual sympathizers criticize Floyd Mayweather for “Running” yet praise Ali at the same time for doing the exact same thing LOL! Get rekt. #JustCasualThings #Hypocrites4Life #ExposedFaDeath #INB4MassInevitableDamageControl #AndThisWILLgetDamageControlled

Beautiful. Simply gorgeous.

Oh yeah with how they let excessive clinching go in the modern era certainly it favors defensive boxers. The problem is you seem to associate defensive with technical, and offensive with mindless brawling which is false.

The difference between Ali and Mayweather is that though they were both out boxers, Ali did go for the knockout whenever possible, he didn’t just try to win on points. Oh yeah and you couldn’t hug nearly as much, so it took much more skill for Ali to get out of troublesome situations. Ali also wasn’t a coward, he faced Foreman when Foreman was in his prime and Ali was past his, many people though Foreman would kill Ali or seriously injure him. Ali took on all comers in what was the most competitive era for heavyweight boxing, he didn’t hand pick his opponents for easy victories.

Life is short and busy. Most fans of anything are casual fans of that anything (hell, I just popped in this thread and will probably never even come back). Not necessarily because they are stupid, but because they only want (and only have time for) a diversion from their own daily grind. People just like what they like. I am sorry that you take it personally and feel the need to lash out towards at casual fans as well as other professionals with name calling in order to make your point. I realize that you are looking for pity, but dont you feel it is a little much to say all this while claiming that the level of class maintained by you and your ‘sweet scientists’ is beyond your detractors’ comprehension. Is that not a bit childish (to invoke ‘science’ while making an argument unrestrained from falsifiability - but I digress)? At least you have your twitter followers to stroke you when you feel low. Hahaa.

*Clinch

From my post up above.

“What the casual fan calls “Running and hugging” We who actually know, study, practice, and understand the sport call it evading and clinching. Sure, some refs take off points if you abuse the clinch too much, AS THEY SHOULD!

So you’re telling me something I’ve already covered, explained and didn’t already know.

Umm, No. Im saying. A Boxing technician 9 times outta 10 DESTROYS a brawler puncher. Which is true.

Yeah, because Mayweather never goes for the knockou…oh wait!?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkgRfQ65FNY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGcwFgvGBrU

Floyd (coming off a TWO YEAR RETIREMENT I might add) beat JMM after his TKO win over Diaz
Floyd beat an undefeated Hatton
Floyd beat Oscar in his own weight class, he didn’t drain him like Pacroids
Floyd beat Mosley after his KO win over Margarito
Floyd beat Ortiz after his war against Berto
Floyd beat Cotto after his big revenge win against Margarito
Floyd beat Robert Guerrero after his big win against Berto
Floyd DOMINATED Canelo after his SHOCK win against Austin Trout.
Floyd beat Macros Maidana TWICE and took him to school in the rematch after his (Maidanas) DOMINATING performance against undefeated at the time Adrian “The Problem” Broner aka Floyd Jr.
And last but not least. Floyd SCHOOLED the number 2 man EVERYONE was hyping and thought. (Including you im sure) That could beat him…Manny Pacquiao. Coming off wins against Brandon Rios AND Chris Algieri (The man EVERYONE thought was the next big star.)

Floyd fights fighters coming off big wins.

So yeah, That “floyds a cherry picking coward” argument is destroyed fa death.
Why don’t you criticize Pacquiao? He fights left over bums and uses Steroids LOL!

Haters will continue to be blinded and mislead to have bias clouded judgements to never learn to give floyd his rightfully earned and deserved credit where credit is properly OVER due.

Anyone else wanna try and give it a shot or nah?

floyd is a master boxer, but his style is boring to most people. that simply an inarguable fact, or are you going to try and argue what people like to see on screen?

lara was winning until he felt canelos power and started evading him at all costs (note i didnt say running :stuck_out_tongue: ) that cost him the win. we hear it all the time, judges like aggression etc etc

and every boxer is on some PED of some kind, lets not be naive here, this is professional sports we are talking about

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As soon as I read…

That’s when I IMMEDIATELY knew it was time for me to stop reading the rest. If you don’t have the balls to stay and debate like a man then you and all that effort you put into that writing I’ll never read are not worth my time. Can’t have your cake and eat it. I won’t allow it. Get benched. NEXT!?

Already covered that. Not gonna repeat myself

Why will I try to argue something I’ve already explained the reasons behind it and put to rest? Again, not gonna repeat myself.

That’s the name of the game, hit and not get hit. Canelo was ALSO eating hella counters that Lara threw all that night as well now wasn’t he?

Wrong. Judges like green in their pockets. If you have enough of it you can buy them out. (117 - 111 for Canelo, that judge clearly wasn’t bought at all LOL) Are you really gonna sit here to try and justify that score? And argue numbers (I’ve since posted) as to why Canelo lost that fight?

There’s more factors to winning a fight then just “putting your opponents on the ropes and aggression” Lara was picking his shots accurately and landing every time. Not ONLY did he land a MAJORITY of his punches in ALL categories. He controlled the pace of the fight. Over all ring generalship, landing more punches, and A LOT of those “power shots” canelo landed to the body were either missed or blocked on Laras elbows and hips (Which don’t count btw.)
So based on ALL those winning factors Lara had over canelos 1 and ONLY attribute (Aggression) that entire fight, that was enough for canelo to win him the fight? Even though 90% of his aggression was again, nullified by the technical boxer like i’ve explained and proven recently? Yeah, Ok LOL! Aggression don’t mean shit if you’re hitting nothing but air and aren’t landing anything flush to warrant it.

Moreover, and I hate to sound like a broken record but I can’t stress this enough. What you guys calling running, we who ACTUALLY know the sport call it ring generalship. Lara DICTATED the entire fight. Lara MADE canelo fight HIS fight…Not the other way around.

But since I’m a good guy who’s on a clear winning streak right now. I’m gonna give you guys a little boxing lesson, pay attention now cuz I don’t give these very often, especially for free. So take notes if you have too. What If I told you…There IS a way to stop a boxing from “running” all night. And that’s called…are you ready? “Cutting Off The Ring”. Did you guys get that? Good! Now then.

If Canelo was so good then WHY didn’t HE cut off the ring to PREVENT Lara from “running” all night? Exactly.

Oh thats right! I forgot. Canelo is a flat footed 1 dimensional stationary boxer that only looks good against other flat footed 1 dimensional stationary boxers like every other mexican that doesn’t know how LOL! :trollface:
I swear you guys are too much. This is fun.

Again, anyone else that think they got something wanna step up and give it a shot or nah?

I thought it was close, i see why they gave it to nelo, but i also see how it couldve gone to lara as well. Theres been worse “gifts” in the sport that i didnt care to be mad about. Theres just something about canelo that makes people angry lol.

Lara is a good boxer who has no defense, he got walked down and punished by angulo, a slow “flat-footed” boxer. Angulo xposd laras inside game, ultimately he fell short. Canelo should have done the same then there wouldnt have even been a discussion of whether he got robbed or not.

If the judges can be bought, wouldnt the better strategy be to go for the KO? Isnt boxing called the hurt game? Either way i just dont care enough to really argue to your satisfaction. I enjoy canelo i enjoy floyd i enjoy lara i enjoy rigo ward GGG marquez pacquiao garcia mathysse etc etc. Boxing is so good right now and theres so many hype potential matchups to be mad.

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But he came back and closed the show by destroying his eye and making the slow flat footed boxer quit did he not?

Then why didn’t canelo take note to cut off the ring and do the same? Hmmmm

But he didn’t, so you have one.

Of course! Lara himself already stated and knew this before the fight. But unfortunately I’ll admit the negatives of being a technical boxers comes at a cost…not a lot of power (UNLESS you’re a heavyweight and the likes, so please don’t even attempt to bother bring up Mike Tyson to destroy that argument, I nullified it well LOL!).

So knocking out Canelo was out of the question. Besides, why would Lara play rock’em sock’em robots with a guy he knows would kill him in that strategy? That’s stupid. =/ So he had to go for points and outbox canelo regardless. Which is did BEAUTIFULLY.

And that’s why canelo was eating counters and getting evaded hitting back nothing but air all night. Cuz he was too busy going and looking for the knockout instead of cutting off the ring to catch Lara. Sure, on paper Canelo “won” (Thanks to grandpapi Oscar De la Fishnets), but you have just single highhandedly proved my point as to why canelo really lost that fight. Thanks.

My point exactly. Can’t hurt nothing if you’re getting blocked, evaded, and hitting nothing but air now are you?

Hey! It’s ok to admit defeat and run. Just know that I’m the more knowledgeable superior person in this discussion and in ALL things boxing and be out. It’s that simple.

If you wanna go again that’s on you. But just know this is your 2nd strike. I don’t give out that many chances now.

NEXT!?

How the fuck? Kirkland was acting like a fucking heavy bag the whoe fight. Got ktfo.

That is hilarious. How is a tko a roberry when dude was flat out cold?

Fuckin LOVING the comments in these recent fighthype videos LOL!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGD2P0idt3w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBd3FV1vjWM

Guess Im not so much in the minority after all.