Dirty boxing can be more than a gimmick if your opponent doesnât check it themselves and expects the ref to just pull you over. There was something I learned doing karate which was a quick three punch combination to the chest with a forward step between their legs. Iâve knocked a few guys down with that because Iâve tangled their footwork with my leg. Itâs not like Iâm reaping them like a judo throw though so the refs have usually been pretty lenient on that one. The oldest trick in the book is the old raised elbow as well, you can draw some serious blood if you âmisjudge,â a hook or uppercut and end up slashing a guys face with a pointed elbow. It wont score you a point but it might help win the fight. In saying all that, the sport has rules for a reason, itâs what makes it a sport and not just two people punching each other. Iâd like to see refs police that stuff more.
Good to see the salt is coming out now in full force. Niggas acting like Mayweatherâs clinch was some unstoppable force, Maidana had no problem getting off and there was much more clinching in that fight, same for Cotto. The ref was right there yelling âFight out of it!â and Manny had nothing for it, so it kept happening to him. Manny lost that fight as much as Floyd took him to school.
Skip might as well be Lotâs wife with the amount of salt he was made up of. If he wasnât continuously trying to go back to the 4th round to back up his claim that Manny won (because we all know the 4th round is the entire fight), he was insinuating nationalism, racism, or probably both by claiming that Floyd won because the judges were American, the fight was in America, ect. Shit was comedy listening to his whine.
Maidana countered those clinching by repeatedly beating floyd over the head or tackeling him out of the ring when that happened. It was illegal things going against illegal things.
Quit being celebrity fans and just pure fans of the sport. Mayweather matches are the only matches were consistent clitching is allowed, you already got Klitchkoâs fight as a reference. Sorry, i was gloating my ass off but unlike you and the rest i am not bias towards favorites.
lol if I had as much money as Mayweather I would be more interested in silencing all critics and removing all doubt that I was pound for pound the greatest.
He did that by showing his insane boxing prowess and boxing iq. Boxing fans can really appreciate the clinic he put on that day, but a lot of people probably didnât understand it and were viewing it as running, and boxing fans who know what is up were seeing it as boxing in its purest form. Honestly Floydâs boxing skills are what coaches dream of in a fighter. If he wanted to he could go on for a few more years, I mean dude rarely takes hits and boxes in an extremely efficient way. I mean he doesnât care about critics for real and he has always stuck to his style, which I think is cool.
boxing gained thousands of new fans this month and lost them after the 12th lol. after this week or nextâŚwe wont hear from them again. but luckily we got a few things on the horizen so hopefully this thread isnt going to be buried 12 pages back like it usually is.
Maidana didnât counter the clinching, he initiated it for the most part. Victor Ortiz did a lot of clinching too IIRC. If you think there was significant clinching going on in this fight, Iâd venture to say that you donât watch much boxing. If you remove the names from this fight, nobody is batting an eye at the amount of clinching that went on.
Except the clinching is technically against the rules, and itâs on boxing to enforce it more consistently.
But they donât, so youâre also correct at the same time. If they arenât going to enforce it, boxers (not just Floyd) will abuse it. As people have said above, Maidana will rough you up for trying that, and Donaire is on some judo shit for a man that tries to clinch with him, both of which are ALSO against the rules. But letâs not pretend like taking points away wouldnât have altered the fight at all, either. Youâre assuming the score would be the same as it was if the ref forced him to stop clinching, which is a pretty big assumption. Itâs possible Manny might have even started throwing some fucking punches, instead of just walking around and getting popped in the grill like he was.
Again, not really faulting Floyd for doing it, faulting boxing for not enforcing their own rules. If the ref is just gonna let him off the ropes for free out of a clinch, of course heâs gonna do it.
Clinching isnât against the rules. Excessive clinching is against the rules. Fighters that donât know how to clinch generally pay for it at some point, usually in the form of getting knocked out.
I did not watch the fight live but yesterday because I lost faith in boxing a long time ago. One of the things i dislike about boxing nowadays is that a fighter can have absolute control of the terms of the fight, from the fighters gloves, the size of the ring, the amount of money he has to take, etc etc. I know you will classify anybody who isnât celebrating as a pac fan or salty over his defeat because most celebrity based fans think that way.
BTW, I did watch the first Maidana fight, i donât know about where you got that about him initiating most of the clinching. I didnât watch the second one though because of hearing that his gloves were banned so you could be referring to that one.
Clinching was put in there as a lifeline when a boxer is about to get knockout (has taken massive shots, can barely stand). It is more a safety measure. Floyd abused this tactic, it was excessive clinching. However yeah it is on the refs, they should have given a stern warning the first time, and dock him a point every other time. On pacquiaoâs side, if they are going to let anything go, he should have just slammed floyd into the mat. Maybe that would prevent the excessive brotherly affection, cause the refs sure as hell didnât.
People who have been shitting on boxing on my FB feed are mainly mma guys. One thing I actually agree with Adrian Broner saying is that you canât just walk into boxing and become a star. He was saying how mma is a bit more accessible in that sense that you have a better chance finding a gym and trainers and getting in the pro ring faster than in boxing. I donât think that mma is easy by any means, but I do think it is more accessible and more satisfying to the casual combat sports fan. Even with my wife when she watches boxing with me she will say it is boring and I believe a fight that was on a couple of weeks ago, I called a KO in the second round. She didnât see it, but I saw how dude was getting his body pummeled and there was no way he would be fully recovered. Once second round started he was blocking is body more, thus leaving his face open and of course he got KOed.
Only to uneducated, plenty of people are huge fans of guys without as dominating records. Plenty of boxing fans love Emanuel Augustus for example. People still love the shit out of Tyson as well for how he wasted people. Same with Lennox Lewis.
Casual fans of the sport never acknowledge the greats like Jack Dempsey or Sandy Saddler either when looking at records. Sandy knocked out over a hundred guys, no one else in the history of boxing has over a hundred knockouts. He only got knocked out once himself as well and it was his second fight.