The Boxing Thread

[FrostyAU]

The best fighters today are russian

Even in MMA, Russians / ex - Soviets are a force. I think the Brazilians still hold the MMA crown but Fedor and a lot of guys still competing like Nurmy who just went and injured himself make a huge case for Russian fighters.

[FrostyAU]

I’ve always been very fast. I’m still very fast. I guess I have a quick metabolism. I used to be pretty underweight, now I’m just healthy. I got picked on for other stuff in school mostly like playing video games (yes, people got bullied for that once upon a time) and just hanging with the wrong people, listening to the wrong music, you know how it goes. More people have been there than not whether they admit it or not.

I’m looking at taking what I know about boxing over to MMA and learning to wrestle. I see that as a way for me to still have a shot at a few pro fights. I’m only in my late 20s, probably never be a champ but everyone needs goals. Helps you be a healthier, happier person instead of just sitting on your ass.

Why not go for boxing?

MMA is like the gold rush when it comes to combat sports. Lots of opportunity. It’s exciting, it’s still largely new ground with incorporating stuff that hasn’t been done. Boxing is past it’s best years. I think the sport will go on forever, I just see MMA as a chance to go for broke. I think I can be good at it. Not going to blow my own horn, but it’s something I want to try. One of my friends from school is pro in the AFC here in Australia. I have avenues into it. Boxing is just something I’ve done for years through gyms as part of trying to live a healthy life and know how to look out for myself.

[maxx]

The best fighters today are russian

Even in MMA, Russians / ex - Soviets are a force. I think the Brazilians still hold the MMA crown but Fedor and a lot of guys still competing like Nurmy who just went and injured himself make a huge case for Russian fighters.

…ummm…nurmy isnt russian. iget what your saying though

[FrostyAU]

Nurmy, as in Khabib Nurmagomadov “The Eagle,” is indeed Russian.

[maxx]

Nurmy, as in Khabib Nurmagomadov “The Eagle,” is indeed Russian.

Dagestani…thats the equiv of calling a puerto rican an american cause their a us territory.

[Wil]

Floyd Mayweather Is Putting Up $10 Million For Suge Knight’s Bail - http://www.complex.com/music/2015/04/floyd-mayweather-jr-posting-suge-knights-bail

Women beater trying to help out a murderer. Sounds about right…right?

[KowtowRobinson]

Floyd Mayweather Is Putting Up $10 Million For Suge Knight’s Bail - http://www.complex.com/music/2015/04/floyd-mayweather-jr-posting-suge-knights-bail

Women beater trying to help out a murderer. Sounds about right…right?

Sounds about right for Floyd, at least.

[MIRACLEARROW]

So out of curiosity, how many of yall plan on watching the fight at a bar vs watching it at home? Just curious. I know for my location (Toronto) unless you’re getting somewhere at 7PM… you aint watching the fight and you’re not even allowed to book reservations.

Which is why I’m inviting all my peeps to watch it at my place on the 55 inch.

[Yoh]

A bunch of my friends will be heading upto Richmond Hill to our local pub. $5 cover, which is excellent as compared to other big name bars $15- $20. Yah ill be there pretty early. $5 beer on the tap seal the deal for me.

Its just amazing how his fight is bring people together and exposing them to Boxing. I have friends and family that never watched a single boxing fight in their lives knows about this fight, and will be attending it somewhere at their comfort to view it.

[thurst]

I bartend on Saturday night, so I’m probably gonna stay up all night to watch the fight at a bar (fight time is around noon Seoul time).

[DarkGeneral]

I’ll be at my house watching it with a couple of buddies. My uncle actually got tickets to the fight, lucky bastard.

[Wil]

I’m planning on going out to a bar with a bunch of my friends. $15 cover that includes a buffet.

[maxx]

watching it at my boys friends house. kinda wish i was watching it at a bar…but its boston so…i dont need a bunch of hyped up college kids around me at 2am

[Dj_Hyper_Kid]

looks like I will probably pay the $99 and watch it at home with Mrs. Hyper Kid. Was gonna stream it, but this is worth watching on the flat screen.

[NickRocks]

I boxed for what…two years now? Its great workout and i love the rush of it however ive learned i dont have what it takes to really make it in boxing, basically im not angry/hungry enough. I still do the boxing workouts but ive returned to my tru love baseball :3

[dab00g]

Nobody cares besides that one guy who likes your posts. Maybe it’s one of your 13 kids.

Boxing is hard to really come in when most semi elite dudes have had 200 fights before they hit puberty.

I been boxing since i was 13? But really my whole thing with boxing and martial arts is that my dad liked seeing me get punished through exercise since i was too big for him to whoop.

[maxx]

lmfao this freddie roach quote.

“im really worried about this fight. I really dont think mayweather will show up, i wont believe it, til i see him in the ring”

hahahha troll game too stronk

[Dj_Hyper_Kid]

I boxed for what…two years now? Its great workout and i love the rush of it however ive learned i dont have what it takes to really make it in boxing, basically im not angry/hungry enough. I still do the boxing workouts but ive returned to my tru love baseball :3

I feel it. I know my coach was wanting me to go pro, but I moved away and just really wasn’t trying to get hit for real, lol. If I would have stayed in Cincinnati and continued my training I would have probably been on my way to making it pro one day.

Honestly that is how I got into competing in Judo. My coach told me to enter tournaments and I did. I wasn’t really caring about competing, I just practiced Judo because I enjoy it.

[NickRocks]

I boxed for what…two years now? Its great workout and i love the rush of it however ive learned i dont have what it takes to really make it in boxing, basically im not angry/hungry enough. I still do the boxing workouts but ive returned to my tru love baseball :3

I feel it. I know my coach was wanting me to go pro, but I moved away and just really wasn’t trying to get hit for real, lol. If I would have stayed in Cincinnati and continued my training I would have probably been on my way to making it pro one day.

Honestly that is how I got into competing in Judo. My coach told me to enter tournaments and I did. I wasn’t really caring about competing, I just practiced Judo because I enjoy it.

Yea the getting hit for real part def was a pause but i just didnt have hunger to hurt the other guy, and my coach noticed. I really liked the defense and technical side of it and i had power but i just wasnt aggro enough. So instead of trying to go amateur i just spar and workout. I enjoy the sparring alot especially with new people its fun to show them the way

Regarding floyd pac im just trying to ignore the clock so saturday gets here faster

[Songo_KthX]

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Also, here’s one for the Floyd fans out there saying he’s the greatest defensive boxer ever. Dude’s defence is his strength, he doesn’t have wars, he doesn’t take punishment but meet Nicolino Locche,

https://youtu.be/w8aerkHG_7A

He smoked throughout his whole career, didn’t diet, he just fought at his natural everyday body weight. He fought 136 times. Not 47. He won 117 and he still holds the record for most time spent in the ring because he only knocked 14 guys out. Pretty much all Locche did was dodge and bolo punch and no one could crack him. He was a defensive savant like there has never been and probably will never be. Yes, a lot of his fights were against Argentinians in Argentina, but this fight here was against the American champion for the WBA belt in Japan. He also beat a lot of international greats of his era like Kid Pambele. He’s the Ring’s lineal champion from 68 - 72.
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Locche was without a doubt the best defensive boxer that has ever lived. **

Willie Pep fought tougher competition and was a better all around fighter. Locche is like the slipperiest man in boxing history but he isn’t the best defensive fighter. I also have to say Charley Burley is a better defensive fighter than Locche because he didn’t need to move. He could have been a statue and he’d punish anyone who tried to step up.

Tougher competition is subjective because boxing is a huge deal in South America. You can’t say people are tougher just because they’re North American and you know more about that scene and it’s history. Well… I guess you can say that but it doesn’t make it correct. It just means you’re biased. All-round I’ll give you though, Nicolino was not all-round which is why I claimed him as “defensive.” Nicolino is criminally underrated because he didn’t speak English and didn’t travel much but he fought a lot of the best of his period in Argentina, hence being The Ring Magazines LINEAL champ for those years.

Willie Pep was a genius, his sheer wins were ridiculous, I don’t like comparing greats like that but for the sake of it the reason I stated Nicolino over Pep for that particular accolade is because he was PURELY defensive. Most minutes in the ring, he won fights feathering his opponents for points. Pep was defensively incredible but he wasn’t purely defensive, he got a lot of knockouts. Locche didn’t try. No one could touch him and that was without grabbing onto them every few minutes like some fighters do. He literally just dodged EVERYTHING… He’d stand hands behind his back and stick his head out because he got opponents that exhausted a stiff breeze would topple them. There has never been anyone like him, a boxer that just stands in the ring so completely impervious that they can win every fight just poking their opponent. He was like a kid the way he toyed with people.

You can look at the footage, it’s plain as day Pep fought tougher competition. Boxing hasn’t changed since the 20s. I agree he’s criminally underrated but saying he’s the best defensive fighter of all time is overrating him. Defense isn’t just slipping a punch, defense is being in the right position, countering, and negating while being able to score back. Locche wasn’t great at scoring back and it shows because of his KO’s. Anyone can punch, but he didn’t emphasize a way to completely negate and counter a tool to the majority of his opposition. Another thing is a good jab, good combination punching is also taking defense into account. You try to negate the counters while using a good combination. Showing different levels and angles is also a sign of good defense.

Locche is better at slipping than Floyd but Floyd has a better jab x1000. Floyd isn’t even Joe Gans.

I’ll end with this again, if you’ve boxed then you can look at the footage. Locche didn’t fight the caliber of opposition someone like Pep or Burley did. Nobody is saying he fought scrubs either but it’s just not at the same level. I’m probably the biggest proprietor of Locche there is. I’m just trying to be reasonable with where others are ranking him. I see it time and time again where people post that video and say he’s the best. There is so much going into it before you can claim someones the best.