The Boxing Thread

Why not go for boxing?

We canā€™t let them mess up our pretty face, us Italians.

As for the ā€œwho has more to loseā€ argument, Mayweather definitely has more to lose. Manny may feel pressured by his need to prove himself and represent his nationā€™s pride, but at the end of the day his fans will still cheer for him regardless. An underdog who reached for the stars and fell back to earth.

On the other hand Floydā€™s entire brand is based on being undefeated, and outside a few sycophants and confidants no one really likes him. The people who are bonafide fans are usually the ones who like him for the wrong reasons, because he represents a lifestyle they crave. Heā€™s like that popular douchebag in high school who everyone acts like theyā€™re friends with, until he gets sonned and everyone canā€™t wait to rag on him.

It isnā€™t like the average person or causual boxing fan interested in this historic fight cares that much about Floydā€™s technical skills and milestones, theyā€™re more focused on the outcome and repercussions. Their interest in Mayweather is based on either monetary gain or superficial hype.

How much of Floydā€™s douchebaggery being an act or being real is always up for debate, but the reality is- heā€™s liked or ā€œtoleratedā€ for being a winner, and itā€™s one thing to be a braggart and undefeated, but if he gets rocked his ā€œshowmanshipā€ will look pathetic to the general population, many of whom for years already labeled Floyd a coward who was afraid of a bad outcome with prime Manny. The angle of the invincible playboy millionaire wonā€™t work anymore, which will certainly affect his brand.

Yeah, one of the reasons Iā€™d like to see him laid out are because of ducking that fight with Manny. This could have been such a better fight if itā€™d been earlier.

Willie Pep fought tougher competition and was a better all around fighter. Locche is like the slipperiest man in boxing history but he isnā€™t the best defensive fighter. I also have to say Charley Burley is a better defensive fighter than Locche because he didnā€™t need to move. He could have been a statue and heā€™d punish anyone who tried to step up.

Thatā€™s semantics. Act or not, you behave like a douche, you are a douche.

Tougher competition is subjective because boxing is a huge deal in South America. You canā€™t say people are tougher just because theyā€™re North American and you know more about that scene and itā€™s history. Wellā€¦ I guess you can say that but it doesnā€™t make it correct. It just means youā€™re biased. All-round Iā€™ll give you though, Nicolino was not all-round which is why I claimed him as ā€œdefensive.ā€ Nicolino is criminally underrated because he didnā€™t speak English and didnā€™t travel much but he fought a lot of the best of his period in Argentina, hence being The Ring Magazines LINEAL champ for those years.

Willie Pep was a genius, his sheer wins were ridiculous, I donā€™t like comparing greats like that but for the sake of it the reason I stated Nicolino over Pep for that particular accolade is because he was PURELY defensive. Most minutes in the ring, he won fights feathering his opponents for points. Pep was defensively incredible but he wasnā€™t purely defensive, he got a lot of knockouts. Locche didnā€™t try. No one could touch him and that was without grabbing onto them every few minutes like some fighters do. He literally just dodged EVERYTHINGā€¦ Heā€™d stand hands behind his back and stick his head out because he got opponents that exhausted a stiff breeze would topple them. There has never been anyone like him, a boxer that just stands in the ring so completely impervious that they can win every fight just poking their opponent. He was like a kid the way he toyed with people.

Speaking of Pep though, he was 62 - 0 before he took a loss.

Donā€™t listen to Mayweatherā€™s shit.

Fucking commercial of celebrities hyping the fight never showing manny or floyd. With chloe kardashian as the last voice.

Itā€™s the fight of the century.

Why the fuck would i care what that bitch or puff daddy says

I took advantage of the sales that are happening around the internet to grab some new Boxing boots, as I typed in the word ā€œBoxingā€ I got a little notification saying Did you mean Bling? Thanks Manny, thanks a bunch.

So much this. To this day i remember watching that fight and not knowing why the hell mosley didnt chase floyd around the ring like a madman after he hurt him. He was all like ā€œI just showed him my power, now Iā€™m gonna settle in to this over 12 roundsā€¦SMHā€

Yo i know this is a little bit of out of context but BHop is also one of the greatest defensive fighters of our generation. Also on a side note, I was talking to my pops about boxing (hes the guru of all gurus lol) and he exposed me to Ernie Shavers. This dude is the fucking man. They say hes the hardest hitting boxer ever. All these dudes like frazier and foreman and ali all say he was the hardest hitter ever. I can believe it. Just watch this dudeā€™s highlights:

youtube.com/watch?v=eevCxv2fGRY

The best fighters today are russian

Shane said he was soooo focused on that one shot that he didnā€™t do what he needed to do. He had a chance, but it was like when he finally got the setup of his combo to land he didnā€™t really hit confirm.

I mean if Kazakhstan counts as part of Russia then I would agree. You have guys like Kovalev, the Klitschkos and Triple G. Thats a pretty dominant group.

Triple G and kobolev are the most entertaining fighters today.

In all combat sports.

I love watching Ggg break ribs. I love seeing mighty mouse break people down. I love seeing Schilling and Buakaw destroy.

Itā€™s not semantics Iā€™m merely stating a fact. It is an issue thatā€™s debatable. Heā€™s obviously a douche, but people argue the degrees of oneā€™s character all the time.

Heā€™s a fucking heel

Remember all the shit people said about ali being a draft dodger and a loudmouth coward.

thissss

I see Floyd as a heel, not a genuine dooche. He has a lot of money, and heā€™s entitled to do what he wants with it, I think heā€™s an idiot for wasting it on crap instead of making a difference but thatā€™s a personal thing. Iā€™m not going to tell a guy how to run his life. Heā€™s obviously a smart guy and he plays things up, thatā€™s how he has the money, heā€™s the son of a boxer, he grew up in the game of boxing which is laissez-faire capitalism at itā€™s finest.