Nigga two things
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The fraud part was not directed to you
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I’ve been around since before 09
Nigga two things
The fraud part was not directed to you
I’ve been around since before 09
It sends me emails when you quote me, all you’re doing is wasting my time kid.
Btw, your argument about reliable and undroppable combos at a stressful tournament…are you forgetting that you’re talking about marn here? He plays Zero that requires harder execution combos compared to Captain America. I’m sure he can easily do any of Capts combos at the tournament and not drop them.
You’d be surprised how much execution for one character doesn’t transfer over to another that well, and fuck you got players who hit the Viper and Magneto combos right and still do dumb BBCS shit with Sentinel. And like it was mentioned the easy shit for Cap hits decently hard so until he gets solid with Cap and ya know not sick as fuck I’m sure he’s going to be doing the better shit.
The zero combos marn does require very little execution and are very basic, yet he drops them like a stripper drops down to pick up some 50s. He needs to stop playing LoL and get some real fucking combos going
nothing is wrong with keeping it simple with ultimate Cap. CAP has like 3 practical combos(the gimpy, ken, and the basic abc), all are viable. although marn doesn’t know all the litte nuances of playing cap, he’s definitely not a fraud
i know you wanna look cool while playing cap, and those air shield combos are great (i use them to confirm from Sj height). But i won’t bullshit my BnB is just he (ground series), BBCdCS, otg HS, BBCdCs, otg HCS. i can throw nova assist and use lvl 3. My hands are retarded so i can’t do anything flashy, but i love cap and that combo does about as much as the flashy ones and i hit it consistantly. Whats wrong with that?
Distance is the main variable but if you want the double hit for sure, judge distance and then a short backdash once you land hopefully should space you right for the 2 hits to connect.
And since this is a Combos and Resets thread, I’ll post some that I’ve been working on using Spencer as an assist (and Doom to extend combos) once I’ve got all the goodies recorded.
I’m very interested to see what your stuff looks like in comparison to the way I use Cap/Spencer. I personally think that these two are one of the best duos in the game, but I’ve been using them for soooooo long that I could be called biased now lol. (still think it’s true)
Kei
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Here we are! Includes corner combo, midscreen reset (with 4 way mixup), corner reset (with 2 way mixup but can be 4 if you condition opponent to block) and a touch of death… sort of.
Basically it utilises his major changes with Spencer assist very well. I had forgot to include the double over head (similar to that one shown in the Ultimate assist me with Strider) but it is pretty easy to do.
Sorry about the quality by the way.
never seen those mixups before. that’s sick. you on psn?
Yup but I’m in Europe so it could lag.
Classy black people don’t use the n word!
Well you made me posting my video pointless as you covered most of the stuff I’ve been using since the first game. However you left out one STUPIDLY good use of Spencer’s assist, and the corner ‘mixup’ you posted as on big characters only isn’t quite so.
Whenever I want to do a reset in the corner on anyone of a non chibi size (at least Wolvie or taller), you should ALWAYS…
That will then cause the opponent to be pulled only slightly away from the corner which makes it very hard to see in the heat of battle which side you’re going to attack from. You then have the option of using j.d.H instead of S which makes it even trickier to see. You should only use j.S in that situation if you want to absolutely cross them up, otherwise use d.H instead which can be done later, has very good priority, is easier to guarantee a follow up on, and won’t push you far away if you want to go for a throw after a failed attempt.
The other one that you didn’t post is likely because you don’t use my B&B combo so you may have never even tried this.
c.L, M, H, S (pursuit and immediately) M, u.H xx L.shield slash (land and jump), M, H (double jump) M, d.H + Spencer assist, S (land and immediately) dash forward, c.L…win
I’ll put up a vid of both that, the Spencer thing (works midscreen too just dash forward), and another I do with Ironman assist depending on situation. For the previous reset you MUST do a full forward dash, don’t press down too early for the c.L or else you won’t cross under them. That of course is part of the mixup, they have to guess which side you’ll end up on, and you have approximately NO time to guess which makes it good.
I think I’ll throw in a tick throw combo I like to use as well time dependant. It’s been a while since I’ve posted any tricky stuff with Cap/Spencer/Stark, thanks for picking up the slack
Kei
Ah right I see with the first corner crossup. Basically the same thing as what I showed only with a backdash first before the Spencer assist. Makes more sense but does it crossup on the ridiculously tall characters (like Sentinel and Nemesis)?
As for the second reset, it looks real tricky but more subtle than the one use. I’ll give it a try when I get the chance to get the lab set up.
I’m editing the video up now, then uploading to vimeo.
Yep the backdash version works on even the ridiculously tall characters, and in a way it works better since it’s then SUPER hard to see which side they need to block on due to their freakish height. (I checked to make 100% sure just now before posting) My usual training dummies are Ryu, Wolverine, and Dorm so that I cover a very large spectrum of character heights.
That 2nd mixup is honestly the dirtiest thing I think I’ve ever come up with, after watching it on video it is just too good not to throw out there sometimes. Of course every mixup because less of a mixup if you abuse them, but if you keep stuff fresh…wow it’s good!
The day I realized it’s easier in this version (I used it in the first game, but it seemed harder then…maybe it was just me) I went through and tested against every single character except Phoenix (obvious reasons) and Shuma (keep forgetting to buy him lol). It will work on every opponent in the game I’d say.
Kei
(almost forgot to put the link lmao…don’t be in a hurry…leave early next time)
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Sorry for the quick editing, there are captions on everything, but I didn’t go through any fancy transistions and such since I was in a hurry to leave. Just pause (esp. the shield slash poke lol sorry) at the different sections if you have trouble, it’s really not that bad.
Hope this stuff helps, I didn’t literally put every single thing I use with them, but this stuff is easily enough along with Shadow’s stuff that he’ll post(ed) to help any of the others out there with the Cap and Spence ‘Super Friends’ team.
Oh, I’m going to post a pick of my final totals for usage, hours, etc. from vanilla MvC3. It’s…well I keep telling people this game is crack to me.
Kei
damn that cross under is just dirty as hell, no way anyone can see that
Since I began using it…it has been successfully blocked exactly…0 times. I wouldn’t abuse it however, it’s best kept as a surprise than something everyone knows is coming (like the old Wesker jump loop —> command grab on incoming characters).
Sometimes I forget how fast it is since it’s slow motion in my head, until I see it on video and realize how fantastic it really is. You can also stay on the same side and go for a reset, same side into throw, opposite side into throw, etc.
These two have lots of options you just have to open on that mind and spend some time looking for stuff you don’t think would work. Spencer also gets some good high/low/throw mixups from shield slash assist during block strings. If it hits you go into jump loop (or another combo if you didn’t sweep), if it doesn’t hit then you mixup between high/low, throw, or command grab into jump loop setups.
I’m still looking for new stuff, but I’ve been fighting sooooooooooo much lately testing out their new abilities, working on movement (as always), spacing (as always), and trying out other characters/teams. I use an Iron Man/Hawkeye/Doom team as well, and my old #2 team of Spencer/IronMan/Doom. Iron Fist is getting some time as well, but it takes me a while since I like to spend stoopid amounts of time with each character.
Kei
My vanilla mvc3 stats just for fun, apparently I really liked that game lol (ultimate is hugely even better)
Character usage
http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k562/Kei_7/th_mvc3usage.png
Teams
http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k562/Kei_7/th_teams.png
Hours + Matches
http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k562/Kei_7/th_hours.png
also the way you use that corner cross up is the reason shield slash assist is dirty in the corner. when they think that their back is protected by the corner, then they get pulled back in thus becoming free to cross ups