Is not a fact, plus the number of SF4 players that bought BBCT is much less than what you think.
Since when is Spawn: In The Demon’s Hand considered a fighter?
So what then, SF4 had absolutely no influence on the success of other fighting games? C’mon seriously? I don’t know what some people are smoking, but give me some. Blazblue would have sold exactly just as much, sure. MK9 would have been greenlit and would have been conceived as a reboot bringing back MK’s roots (kind of like SF4 brought SF2 roots even though it is very different), despite the last MK bombing, sure.
You have the numbers? Cause I know a ton of people who didn’t play fighting games much at all, who largely forgot about them since the death of arcades. They bought SF4 cause of their happy memories of SF2 in addition to the rave reviews, this got them interested in the entire genre and some got into Blazblue, some tried Skullgirls, some tried P4A, etc.
SF4 players only play SF4 so nah I don’t think they helped as much as you’d expect
blufang can jump between this timeline and the timeline where SF4 never happened. Give up.
not to say blufang is entirely wrong, but he should consider a couple other factors that helped grow fighting game popularity…
-significant improvements in netplay for fg’s
-live streamed tournaments
i know a ton of people who quit sf when sf4 came out lol
This, many people who like to point how SF4 revitalized the FG scene forgets about how those technology made more accessible for the people to find about FG’s.
I am not denying that SF4 could have helped, but i am very confident that it’s influence on the notoriety of other games wasn’t as great as many like to claim, and if it wasn’t for the peak of the current technologies of neework gameplay, streaming, social networks, SF4 wouldn’t have be as “big” as it is now.
Exactly this, which is why I said “commercial succsess”, which is something entirely different from “growing the FGC in general”.
I also think it’s erroneous to get mad at Capcom because your own group isn’t as large as you’d like it to be (as you hinted at). And I say this as a man who take no pleasure in playing any of this gen’s fighters. The games I love to play most have a smaller player base.
Yea, MKvsDC bombed. That’s why it was Midway’s highest selling game before they went bankrupt.
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1022080/000095015209003529/c50336e10vk.htm
That’s a bomb all right. Fail more dumbass.
Such hostility, enough to hurl insults. I wasn’t referring to the crossover game MK vs Dc, I was referring to MK Armageddon. MK vs DC isn’t part of the main series.
FG streams maybe got more hardcore players involved, but hardcore FGC people aren’t what move sales. No, casual players are the ones that do. The ones that don’t ever ‘watch’ video games, study frame data, enter training mode, etc. Anyways I’ll agree that netplay was huge, but don’t kid yourself bout SF4. Oh and I’m an SF4 player that loved Guilty Gear, Vampire Savior, Blazblue, I’m buying Skullgirls when it comes out to PC…so yeah. There are many SF4 players right here on SRK who play other current fighting games, so just lol at the assumption that people who play SF4 don’t play anything else.
MKvsDC is an MK fighting game regardless and the one that preceded MK9. The game we call MK9 wouldn’t be called that if MKvsDC didn’t exist. As for Armageddon, you obviously did not look at the link I posted as that game appears on Midway’s list of games that exceed over 1 million sales. All the MK 3D games have been successes for them. You can stop talking out your ass on that front.
a good chunk of them don’t play anything else for more than a few weeks. and of the ones who do, a lot of them don’t learn how to really play the other games how they’re really played. they just play it like it’s SF4. I have punished enough full screen tatsus and mashed uppercuts to last a lifetime.
I thought we were talking about sales, not how good people who play SF4 are at other fighting games. What does that have to do with anything?
because many SF4 players like to act like they singlehandedly “rebuilt the community” by buying games, dropping them after two weeks, and never playing anywhere outside online. not all but it is a common attitude expressed.
i hate to break it to the OP, but Street Fighter never came back.
at least REAL Street Fighter.
ok, this made me lol
i was around during those times. our local scene was very small but we were lucky to have an arcade and also be a few hours away from MD/Philly/NYC. SF4 here in our area changed our scene literally overnight. it went from a 8 man bracket to a 40 man bracket weekly.
i sometimes look back at all the old games i bought during the “drought” and reflect on those times.
Yeah, SF series died when they made that crapstack called 3S, was nothing like the REAL SF.
hopefully SF5 comes back to its roots
This is true to an extent. Real sf was the one you found in the arcades, where depending on the time and coins you spent, you’d get better.
No console training mode at all.
I’d only visit the arcades once a week and i hadnt seen a sf game for over 10 years. Sf2 in 1993, 3s in 2003. Didnt bother again till sf4 in 2011 on pc. But everything became so polished and professional it hardly has anything to do with those times.