Tekken 6 Tier List?

I’m no Tekken expert (just got the game a week ago) but I’m not understanding this +1 Health Settings business. I mean, I look at other games with fast rounds like Guilty Gear, and Tekken doesn’t seem very “extreme” to me at all. So what’s the difference between Tekken and say, ST, that makes additional health in Tekken so desirable?

I also feel like any issue that is solved by increasing health is also solved by increasing the number of rounds instead, but Tekken already does that. So I guess my confusion is twofold.

lol @ playing on +1

The match only goes by as fast as you fuck up. Stop fucking up.

^ you do realize that is the most horrible argument against anything for any fighting game. people are always gonna catch ch, launches, juggles, super combos, corner traps, ect… in any game. telling someone to stop fucking up, and somehow play perfect, is the stupidest shit you can ever say in reference to fighting games. that is literally an impossible achievement, and something you should never say again if you ever wanna get your opinion taken seriously.

sleepy zero doesnt post in here anymore.

I dont have to prove anything to you. I play some of the best players on and offline. I was ranked 13th in NA on the leaderboards in DR with Christie and im currently 140 in the world with Chrisite and rising.

Do you even post on Zaibatsu? Do you even have anyone in the community to verify that you arent garbage? Anyone. Like Slips or Bent-Lee or Noodlehead or Oofmatic. Because I do. Because if you cant, we dont need to be having a discussion about someone being taken seriously.

So stop fucking up. Then you wont lose. Then you wont spend the bulk of your time theory fighting on a fucking message board instead of playing the fucking game.

yeah, sure you little bitch. i have been posting on zaibatsu since january 2006, and i have regularly played with the best players in maryland. when i was in glen burnie i lived 6 minutes from one during my whole tekken career, so i have more then enough experience with top players, and you would be a fool to doubt the skill level of maryland even on an off day, not to mention, oh yeah, duh, yeah i know how to play tekken. why would you even come out your mouth like that and assume im trash? you mad because you stated a completely retarded fucking argument that is, and has been easily debated and crushed on this forum for fucking years now?

im glad your ranked good online. congratulations on that. lol. fact of the matter is, your fucking argument is fucking stupid. if you think people just need to stop fucking up and not get hit by shit, then your retarded. flat out. there are players better then you and i that we couldnt even touch that still get hit by shit, thats a part of fighting games. why the fuck do you think people hate stupid ass srk trades to ultra, and dp to ultra so much in sf4, because everyone catches an srk sometimes, and especially with that stupidly large ass reversal window. so yes, everyone catches a b+1 by steve sometimes, and all that theory fighting bullshit people talk about on zaibatsu is just bullshit, because we all see how no matter how well people say they know how to play steve, they still get peaced out by him by good players.

i didnt say you needed to prove shit. you just got real heated in the chest and got mad because i said your argument is stupid, which it is, and i know of no one that would agree with you. even though im away from home, im still active in my home forum, if you wanna decide to lurk there to justify that i know people within my own community. danny duh, da law, rugal b, duckin damon, paik when he did play, grimey grizzly (evo east 2007 champ with kuma), grimm, marbles aka copiera hustla (best ling and lili in md. easy. dudes a problem, and regularly streaks) , sayco (a few times), turkeasy. cmon son. besides grimey really, i have regularly played with all them during the dr era weekly. mostly with my boy da law, the best cap player and law player in maryland, and we played multiple times a week. you know, da law? dude that was top 8 at evo east 2k7, and that still doesnt fully display his overall skill as a player, and i played this dude regularly, and is my close friend. i played with the best from my hometown for years, who have played the best. i worked my way up no doubt from scrub status, but im far from a tekken slouch, and have been for a while, even after only really regularly playing, da law, and marbles.

im droppin older years because thats when md played the most, and things died off a bit in 08. i moved away for a bit myself, and tekken 6 was the new jam, so everyone been waiting for that, but i still played regularly even up until i left my regular comp. so there, you asked my credentials, and there they fucking are, and thats old shit, im on some new shit skill wise myself with tekken 6. just trying to get situated back again like everyone else trying to adapt to all the character newness. but yes, i play tekken, sir. i aint gonna ask your credentials, because they dont matter. what matters is that silly ass statement of yours that people need to just play more solid and not get hit by shit, when that is impossible. no one is talking about getting hit by snake edges, son. lol!

if everyone could play so perfect, every match would time out even on 100. the most perfect players out in korea and japan still be hitting each other with counter hits, and generic launchers. ha ha. even some of the current somebodies in the american tekken community aint playing all that special, make mistakes, whiff random slow moves, and play wildly at times.

so im sure you have something good to say about tekken if you got some staple comp, but for real, your statement was fucking dumb, and there is no argument to that. zero argument. so calm that heat in your chest, and lets move on, because there is no argument there. if you wanna argue other shit, feel free, but telling people to just stop fucking up is not an argument against plus 1 settings.

Someone’s angry.

not really. im over it. i had one moment of heat, and it left. i just was explaining my tekken background and a couple random points since you were interested.

Well gimme some footnotes because I didnt read that crap.

I actually agree with is.

That game really is fucking broken.

I actually agree with is.

That game really is fucking broken.

Obviously…

Nobody is asking you to prove anything.

What jimmy did was just proving to you that you had no argument.

Its all a matter of opinion.

I said stop fucking up and you wont lose. The top tier can take you on with ONE juggle. ONE. You fuck up in the middle of the stage and youre’re already juggled to the wall, now if you fuck up again in a game of oki there goes the round.

Really we are playing a game of nitpick now. I was only being semi-serious when I said it.

You want to win in Tekken? Dont fuck up. A comeback in Tekken is a two step process. Launch > juggle to wall, okizeme into mixups for re-juggle = death.

Giving the “advice” to “not make any mistakes” is not an intelligent or constructive advice nor a good help to improve anyones game.

Everyone makes mistakes, be it freshmen or top-level players.

Neither the new beginner nor the Pro is “aiming” to make mistakes.

You will have to be a tad more constructive than that.

we should really rename this thread to T6 flame war thread.

We’re arguing online rankings now? Especially in fucking DR?

And I’m an idiot for saying Marvel’s broken? What the fuck would you call that shit? Balanced?

I dont recall anyone arguring about online rankings. But lets not jump to the conclusions that because you are highly ranked online means you are a good player, its just a good chance that you may be.

None the less I dont know what kind of help I can give. if we are just being general and im just being an asshole, I’m sticking by the “less mistakes more win” school of thought. Poor execution and the wrong options for situations are generally what blow it for people who have a decent grasp on the game.

Tekken is a big fat game of footsies. You guess wrong and thats your ass.

Look at some of those westcoast matches of Mr. Naps and co. Throw opening the match, combo after throw, oki into the wall, wall juggle and its KO. What kind of help are you supposed to give someone in this game? lol. DONT BLOW IT! Never fuck up!

lol You can’t footsies in Tekken. The moves are too slow. You play footsies in this game you’re gonna get launched. Winning in this game depends on how you play. You can rush people down or turtle or a combo of both. You wanna launch people you need to create whiffs. Via stepping, spacing, ducking. You wanna pressure people? Stay in their faces, throw, mix up your attacks, block when necessary. Not every character is made for certain play styles. For example, rushing people down with Lee is bad, he doesn’t good tools to really play that way at high level.

lol…footsie in tekken.

that’s a nice try though. This thread is a ball of laughs now.

Tekken 6 really encourages any style of play only somewhat differing by character choice. The variety of character strengths in the top tier shows this quite well. For any character you have got to risk it for big damage. Just hanging around waiting for someone to mess up is not going to happen very often. Top players only really mess up if provoked, which means you have to work a strong game of deception to get that big damage.

The best advice I can give to a player suffering from constant combo, oki, round over is this. Do the best you can to not run into stuff which is the main reason for the, “What the!! I was blocking” response. Walking is an option with auto mid/high guard as soon as you stop rather than dashing which makes you have to throw the stick into the back position to block. Just like SF, if you don’t need to dash, then don’t.

Also when your character is on the ground it’s not a bad thing to stay down there and take a few ground hits. You may eat a combo’s worth of damage from those ground hits, but if you watch them you can learn so much. In time you can start to see where those open windows to safely get up are.

If say, they attempt a refloat with a simple mid poke and miss because you did not move, then that could be the free get off the ground free card you need and all you did was just be a little patient. Obviously, you do not always want to stay down, but it will be a lot less frustrating for you to learn Tekken’s complex ground game by leaning on that stay down option when you just don’t know what they are capable of yet.