Rog isn’t range. He’s seemingly a pretty basic character until you realize you gotta work to get in. Need to utilize his pokes, mixups, and gimmicks to be truly effective. And at the end of the day his combos aren’t particularly outstanding. Some of his oki is gone and d/b+3 godtier isn’t as hot anymore. New AGF is one of my new fave moves though.
Agh, finally going to play BR in TN this weekend. Got so hyped I printed out anything I found useful for all the characters my group is looking at. Atleast it’ll provide a decent read for the way down there :wgrin:
We need to upgrade our T6 to BR already…
But who has the best oki game in BR right now?
Oh fuck dude. Why couldn’t you have came this weekend? We JUST got back a few hours ago.
Lol yea, a few guys have cheat sheets, phone texts, and palm pilots out their very first session. Be sure to hit up the TN threads on TZ or SRK to let like the only 3 real Tek players at that arcade know you’re there lol. Unless you want to play the random mashers who frequent the mall and arcade.
Not sure. Feng still has good oki. That’s all I care about. 
The main guy planning this works a swing shift, no go on this past weekend.:sad:
I PM’d Jason a couple of weeks ago about cab rentals, so basically it’ll be 3 of us cracking out for 8 hours while the other 2 start learning Tekken in general. I’ll get in contact with him again once we roll out there.
My goals for this weekend:
See how valid Asuka is and whether or not she should remain my go to osakan prostitute.
Check out Leo.
See if I can make Feng pop and lock half as well as YUU or Taizo.
Bamboozle some wins with Alisa while I can 
Can’t wait!
Hmmm…
Bryan/Bruce would be my bet.
Asuka is very valid. Counter is too buff if you don’t abuse it and she just has solid new additions to her game. If you liked her any whatsoever in DR I can’t imagine why you wouldn’t roll with her in BR. Kodee can show you some Leo stuff. You can get some wins with Alisa no prob against your boys maybe. Being unfamiliar against her at all can be kinda deadly, at least for the first match or so. And she’s pretty easy to work with too.
Most will tell you Asuka is the bottom of the scrap heap in T6: BR, right along side yoshi, but the korean player Atung has done MAJOR damage with the girl, but youtube videos of atung’s play is not an easy thing to find.
Few things to keep in mind with the girl…
3~4 is now launch punishable, but you can juggle off it by starting with WS+4 after it. Other strings that end in the same sweep are actually a bit safer on block, so against people who don’t realize this(you’d be surprised how many there are) you can bait them to go for that big WS launcher as punishment only to find out you were able to block it, then it’s your turn to punish.
CH fc d/f+2 no longer gives a guaranteed WS+3_u/f+4. Best you’re going to get now AFAIK is WS+1,4.
Her reversal windows is outrageously long so be 100% sure before you use it, as you will otherwise eat some nasty punishment.
f+1+2 causes B! on CH.
f+2 doesn’t hit grounded like it did in T6. I’ve been told it’s a little safer now(by 1-2 frames, but most still can launch it), but I haven’t had any true confirmation on this fact.
There’s more, but these 5 are the big ones.
One big reason why DR asuka’s may not like BR asuka… F+3(3 spins) hits high now. This really hurts unblockable traps, but I guess in a strange way gives us F+3(2 spin cancel),1+2 when the enemy ducks for good damage. I’m going to miss the heat applied by launch, b+2,1,3, f+3(cancel if they don’t tech-roll) d+3+4 launching both KND 3 & KND 4 set up though from DR, while if you know they’ll tech roll and side-step, cancel into 3~4 for the free 3+4 followup. I’ll also miss W! 1+4,2, f+3 unblockable trap.
Seriously though, Asuka’s good even though she is considered by the koreans to be bottom barrel. I think we’ll see her notch up in their next tier list though now that Atung has been working people with her… I mean, Raven went from being so low he had his OWN tier(Lovingly called Biodegradable tier) to being solid mid. I know Kuma is being looked at a lot differently since Prince has been MURDERING the best with his bears…
Long story short, it’s still too early to know who’s truly ranked where, but every character does have the necessary tools to compete at any level of play. Some just have to work much harder for that win.
Why do people keep asking if particular characters are viable, when pros have stated so many times that the majority of the characters in this game are decent?
Because people here are still use to most fighters, where there are characters who are completely worthless for competition. They just aren’t use to the fact that the only difference between tiers in T6 is really a few abusable moves, a few percentage higher juggle damage, or another character length in wall carry.
It’s not like SF4 vega vs sagat…
I’ve witnessed how much potential T6BR has in terms of balance, so i’m not implying Asuka is Claw or anything. I merely want to make the decision whether or not I want to try something new.
Atung/Addung is pretty easy to find. A lot of his matches are on the youtube channel koreanTAKKENvids. Majin and a few other from Japan are the ones I sometimes have a problem finding (besides older vids on geesendou’s channel). I like Atung’s style to a degree, but its a bit reckless for me. What’s interesting is I find that I play a lot like him when i’m on the defensive (ie BDC, electricSS, SS4_b3_f4 for everyone!).
There’s two different versions for her reversals. Of course whiffing is lolpunishable for either anyhow
It’s high, but now the cancel is hella faster IIRC.
Another thing I find interesting is that 1,1_1,2_1,3_1,4 are NCc now compared to nothing before. I’d give my left nut for some NC action at i10 (Shinkuur especially knows this from my rantings) but this’ll have to do.
Still <3 her.
My god, wtf did they do to my girl 
f+3 hits high? god damn 
and CH fc d/f+2 no longer giving a free launch is retarded.
Nobody got seriously nerfed without getting some buffs in return, save for Raven maybe (who’s only nerf was losing jf buzzsaw), but he’s got a helluva lot of mix-ups now than he did before, and df2~3 is safe, and delayable. df2,3 into BT mixups. df2~opp twitches~3. CH.
Lili lost a few things, gained a few things. Julia lost a few, gained a few. Ganny’s fat, but headbutt’s with a quickness.
Also, the Koreans said Lars is just mid tier. Which I agree with, but look at what Fukusu did with him: took him to Tekken Emperor status and regularly beats top players at 1-on-1 matches.
BR is a beautiful game.
anybody watch the tekken crash season 2? [media=youtube]SUC6xkD0lzU[/media]
Yea like I tell people, as it stands now, and most likely will for the duration of this games life, EVERY character is fully viable. You got tiers changing like mad. Fuck that shit. A game where I can pick whoever I want based on looks, anesthetics, and personal preference, and still go all the way with them? ZING.
I don’t know much of anything about Asuka. I know they had to changed properties of many moves just due to introducing B! system. Then you’re talking about hurting unblockable traps. Lol c’mon man. BR system can’t co-exist with some of the shit in DR and especially 5.0. Probably have re-B!, glitches, and some more. It’d be fucking nasty. This may not be comparable to the current topic at hand, but this is a personal wtf glitch fave. Besides the death combos in 6.0, this makes you appreciate having BR more. Wang is awesome btw. Soulja Boy “YULE!!” that bitch:
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Only thing I hate for Ganny is that he lost half of his throws from f,f+2. The 3, 4, and 3+4 breaks are entirely gone. And I guess another minor nuisance is the increased pushback on some of his knockdowns now. F+3+4(old F+1+2) is guaranteed on CH headbutt now instead of d+1+2. You pick up now after crumples and backrolls with B+2, 1 instead of d/f+1. D/f+1 still works sometimes but for the most part is unreliable for that purpose now. B+2,1 is slower and less lenient. So it throws off my re-juggle in certain situations where I’m used to little things working like in DR. Old character with new shit in a new game, so it’s expected. Like I said though, I’m just finding petty nitpicks. Ganny is beastmode.
yall be scared.
i heard atl might travel this tekken.
So yeah, tons of secret characters and cameo’s…
Dante from DMC4:
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh191/zacc1495/6.jpg
Joker:
Cloud Strife:
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/6615/cloudlee.jpg
Tifa:
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/e88a0542e9.jpg
Leona:
Governator:
Sephiroth:
Ryomou Shimei:
Optimus Prime:
and Megatron:
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a81/sinisterj808/12-17-08003.jpg
^ You can make Jin and Raven look like Dante too. In fact, several characters can be the same characters from other games. I’m too lazy to link vids of a Hwoarang and Bruce looking like Guile…
…WAT. :mad:
About that J vs. B thing…maybe Namco brought back the in-game match recording feature from T4? YAYZ!
I’ve got one going for my Lars 1p, But it’s my 2p that I’m after, 'cept I’m a pair of pants short (e.g. I need around 120-200k more I think), and I’m keeping quiet untill I’ve got him sorted, then I’ll post pics. :smokin: