Probably ex spire or dash spd/u1/super.
Most of the comments are from people unable to play AE asking those that have access to it if certain known changes have the desired effect they were hoping for. Or playing theory fighter on what effect the changes have had. Also some wishful thinking about unannounced buffs. No worries though. We all just want to play AE and see for ourselves.
Blanka is a$$ now. That matchup is winnable.
Now the big question is does EX Dive lose to Guiles air throw.
Theory fighter would say yes more than likely. Nothing changed but startup on his throw so they said.
Guile was nerfed hard on AE, its winnable now, because in super, guile is broken as hell, hes the “sagat” of super, when i fight a good guile i always lose, his normals are complete broken, the flash kick is broken, the gain EX meter is ridiculous and his fucking air throw is the most broken move ever in sf history :amazed:
dude, come on lee, that’s quitter talk. don’t be a quitter. ahhaha but seriously, i dunno what you’re talking about. its not like no one wins tournaments matches with hawk. just keep it up and i’m sure you’ll body fools at wcw.
and also, t hawk is the best character in the game, because he can fly.
I might not win with Hawk a tremendous amount, and I don’t enter tourneys, but you know what? I enjoy playing him because it feels good to win with him because you know you worked your ass off to get the W.
naw man i’m not even saying that hahah not every win i get is hard, i straight up body dudes with hawk for fray sometimes. hawk is a good character with some really bad match ups. against half of the cast, he’s 5-5 and also has a few 6-4s. you definitely don’t have to work your ass off any more than your opponent in these matches, so really when it comes down to it, you can play him for the same reasons you play any character. you don’t need to feel like you’re justified because you worked you ass off to win.
This.
I’m putting this on my tombstone.
THawk is fun to play because THawk is fun to play. If you enjoy playing him, continue playing him. I’ve been a Guile main since Vanilla, and I’ll continue to main him forever simply because I enjoy his character design, and his playstyle fits the way I like to play 2D games.
I’ve been playing THawk since Super came out, and even though I suck, I love playing him. I enjoy using his huge life pool as currency to get in, his fun oki and throw game, and how much fun it is to use his pokes, especially standing MP.
From what everyone is saying, it looks like THawk got some good tools to really help him compete. I’m waiting now to see a THawk step it up on the national scene. I’m not sure who the person would be to prove he’s top-4-worthy, but if I saw a THawk tearing it up on a stream I would be freaking out.
I think there may be quite a few new setups and tricks that are yet to be discovered, despite that it seems his overall properties werent altered all that much (not like the huge overhauls Gouken and Deejay got).
I saw that you wrote the same thing for Zangiefs U2, but you’re wrong. [media=youtube]q_MtmUE0_1M"[/media] Did you try doing T.hawks U2 as soon as one of the bigger characters started counting as airborne? Or is this removed completely in AE?
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ex spire vs ex scissor. can someone replicate this situation in super? i distinctly remember ex spire losing on startup, before its hitting frames star (fuck dude even AFTER hitting frames start) to nearly ANYTHING. did they fix this and give it SOME invincibility on startup till it starts to hit? that would be insanely good and might make up for other areas where he had problems. that or ex scissor hits REALLY late but im pretty sure that at the least the first hit of ex scissor hits relatively fast, in comparison to something like ex spire.
Just run the close sweep immediate dash > ex spire vs ex scissors - I can’t get ex spire to win at all!?
So im not crazy then?
Seems not - frame data will tell the full story when it comes out. If it does have normal invincibility on start up that would be a good buff to his close game without question.
Only slight doubt I might have is the start up the ex scissors seems to push Hawk away before it strikes - not sure what Capom did to Ex Scissors or its hitbox.
spire vs crusher is a trade now, yes.
oh i’ve seen another vids that yun’s palm vs far st hk is a trade now and not that only hawk get the hurt, yeah baby this is what i wanted to see.
My understanding is that palm is a projectile so depending on it’s startup lots of things may trade. And of course EX spire should go through and win clean.
Wow yun doing fb will be nightmare.
No thats not it, you know his spec palm wich stops fb?
That one.
Yes it has the properties of a projectile. It doesn’t actually fly across the screen. But any projectile invincible moves should work against it. Also EX CDive is supposed to have projectile invincibility while active so it may beat it, too.
i’ve found the vids [media=youtube]cSfBX9S3rKI[/media]
at 1.00 you see yun do the palm move vs hawk far st hk.
so this palm counts as a projectile?