The smallest HDTV is a 32". My purpose is really twofold. I want to use my SNES on my TV too so I need a coax connection. I can’t have a huge TV in my room either. I would have just sucked it up and picked up an EVO monitor but that coax is really important. Additionally I heard the sound on it wasn’t so hot.
LCD and LED are just backlight differences. The panel response time + the inner circuitry (whether there is post-processing) determines input lag, not LCD/LED.
EDIT: Should be more on-topic… less discussion of “is this lag free?” or “recommend me a lag-free display in xx” dimensions" because this thread is meant to be a database.
The Dell U2312HM should be added in the monitors list: an IPS with an average monitor lag of 0.6ms and a maximum of 10ms (info from TFTCentral).
Yeah the review just went up a day or so ago and I just finished reading it when I noticed they had new review up.
That avg input lag is simply mind blowing.
Yeah, a great result. I’m really undecided between this monitor and the LG E2370V-BF (an IPS that no one know, but have the Thru-mode so can reach a really low input lag too). It would be nice if TFTCentral decide to review the LG.
0.6ms is amazing. I think I will order this monitor. The stock mount will also let you rotate the monitor 90 degrees and the fact that the monitor has good viewing angles (IPS) makes it also a great monitor for SHMUPS! The only downside is that there’s no HDMI (which isn’t a big problem). Now time find a good deal on this monitor.
wow amazing input lag on this dell u2312hm. I know that response time has nothing to do with input lag, but how does this effect gaming when its higher than input lag?? in this case dell has 8ms response time while input lag is like 0.6 ???
It doesn’t. And ‘response time’ has become an arbitrary value since LCDs became mass produced. Each manufacturer has its own way of calculating this and hence it’s almost impossible to compare this ‘specification’ across different makes and models.
The only difference you’ll see on monitors with higher response time is that the picture can blur a bit more when there’s a lot of action on screen since the pixels in the display don’t change fast enough to keep up. But honestly, it’s mostly irrelevant nowadays.
Could the U2212HM be on the same level of performance? I’m just trying to save as much as possible.
So does this make the Dell U2312HM the monitor to get? Is the 8ms actually not worth even thinking about?
0.6? are you fucking shitting me? that should be the new official EVO monitor.
Unless I’m missing something major, it hardly makes sense to repurchase all those screens for what is, at the end of the day, a pretty negligible increase.
It’s indeed a very low input lag… So low that I begin to doubt the the methods of testing of TFTCentral…
yeah it is WAY lower then all the other monitors so its hard not to doubt it. i would like to see someone do another test on these monitors.
Stop conflating the terms input latency and response time.
stop it
Come on, I meant input lag, and you know it.
http://www.flatpanelshd.com/review.php?subaction=showfull&id=1317112577
this review of dell u2312hm says something else, they arent recommending this monitor for gaming… ??? im confused which review is legit?
Seems like they didn’t recommend it for gaming because it’s not 120hz.
Literally every page of the last thread was someone confusing the two, even though the title of that thread was RESPONSE TIME ISNT INPUT LAG. Unless you stamp that shit out every time, the confusion is just going to get worse and this thread will end up like the last one, with every third post askin if “this monitor over here with the 5ms response time is any good???”.