What about this?
That seems to be UK only… what’s the US equivalent model?
Dunno, check on Philips US website, maybe you’ll find it there.
I have both and prefer the Alienware AW2210. The Alienware feels much more responsive and has better image reproduction. It also comes with two hdmi ports which is perfect since I have both ps3 and xbox connected to it.
The monitor is gorgeous! I’m planning on getting another one.
This guy is right, LG tv’s generally have good response times compared to other brands. I havent looked in a while but many were 5-8ms a year and a half or so ago.
Generalizing over a brand is pointless. There are some good LGs and there are some very bad LG regarding input lag…on this note I’d like to remind you that…
RESPONSE TIME HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH LAG.
RESPONSE TIME HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH LAG.
RESPONSE TIME HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH LAG.
RESPONSE TIME HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH LAG.
RESPONSE TIME HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH LAG.
RESPONSE TIME HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH LAG.
RESPONSE TIME HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH LAG.
RESPONSE TIME HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH LAG.
RESPONSE TIME HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH LAG.
RESPONSE TIME HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH LAG.
RESPONSE TIME HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH LAG.
RESPONSE TIME HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH LAG.
RESPONSE TIME HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH LAG.
RESPONSE TIME HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH LAG.
RESPONSE TIME HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH LAG.
RESPONSE TIME HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH LAG.
RESPONSE TIME HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH LAG.
RESPONSE TIME HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH LAG.
RESPONSE TIME HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH LAG.
RESPONSE TIME HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH LAG.
I could not find one. Nothing that I trust to have the same specs as far as input latency is concerned.
Also, I hear a rumor that response time has nothing to do with lag? 
That all being said. I’d really like to see Prad do a comprehensive on the Yamasaki Catleap Q270.
The idea is that a TV with good solid reponse time is faster at processing data overall, and therefore should have less lag - dont pay any attention to the repeat yelling guy, he obviously has issues.
Read step 4 at the bottom to clear it up a bit at least.:tup:
That’s a fallacy unfortunately. The ability for a display to go from a lit pixel to an unlit pixel and back again, has nothing to do with the time it takes for a signal to be processed and displayed. They are two completely separate mutually exclusive procedures in the processing of a display, and only coincidentally and anecdotal-ly have anything to do with each other.
You can have 2ms response time, and 30ms input latency, and the movement will seem super-fast and non-ghosted, but the input will still take time to register on the display. May wanna do a little more research on this and don’t always trust contested wiki articles.
In other words: The yelling guy is completely correct.
Ok my bad, thanks for the info, I figured they would be connected logically as far as quality is concerned. Is there a reliable test you can do for lag?
Before you start searching for the infos you’ve been missing until now, which are actually in this very thread that awaits just to be read, I would kindly ask you to edit the “obviously he has issues” part.
Thank you in advance sir.
It’s like this.
Let’s say the “response time” is the amount of time it takes for someone to raise a flag from their side and put it back down again.
Input latency or “lag” would be the amount of time it takes for someone to get him the message to raise the flag.
You can have the fastest, most effective flag raiser in the world. but if you’re getting the message to raise that flag to him via the fat kid with asthma issues, it won’t give you a good result.
Since most people use TV’s/Monitors/Displays to, you know… watch stuff; the only measurement that typically they care about is response time, since they’re not the ones delivering the message to the flag carrier, that’s being handled by their Blu-Ray player or Cable Box. However in the gaming world (mostly FPS/FG), we’re the ones sending out the messages, so we want that little fat kid to run as fast as his little stubby plump legs can take him; because failure to do so can result in a dropped combo, or a missed headshot.
Measuring the input latency accurately would require lots of extra hardware, which is why we rely on websites that actually care about it like Prad.
… and yes, don’t insult people when possible.
I will do that, if you would also kindly edit your repeated capital bold yelling to one line and act like a civil human.
Settle down you two… he was expressing frustration over something that has been covered literally hundreds of times in this forum that people still do not seem to understand. He was not insulting you… he was expressing frustration. Don’t take it personally, edit your insult, and let’s all have fun on the internet.
Wasnt insulting, just stating his issues with frustration as indicated by his super loud post and will edit if he plays nice and does as well. Anyway this is off topic - I’ll leave it at that, your analogy was helpful, thanks.
It was only an innocent and ironic copy paste from that thread. Ellipsen has been spreading false informations about this topic in other threads so I was just trying to make him where he was wrong. No hate.
Hello all, long time no post.
Can anyone tell me if my Dell E198WFP is any good for lag? The specs are below, and the response time is listed as 5ms, which seems good, but i don’t want to make the mistake of thinking that’s the same as a lag measurement, because…well, i’ve seen what happens to people who do that around here, lol.
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=gen&sku=320-5581
It feels quite decent, especially compared to using my samsung 42" plasma TV, which is atrociously laggy.
EDIT: The closest thing i’ve been able to find to a responsiveness review for it is on the 22" version, which seemed to get a very good review here:
Many thanks!
Just a add for people with ASUS VH238 or VH236 is to turn tracefree all the way up too 100. This reduces lag.
Info on Tracefree:
http://www.asus.com/Display/Features/Image_Enhancement_Technology/
Tested using:
http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/response_time.php
Also ideally one should set his mode to sRGB to eliminate post-processing.
need some help in deciding whether or not to go with ips or tn
im thinking either evo monitor or dell U2312HM or maybe asus PA238Q. All are below 1 frame and so i’m just looking for what do you guys think and would rather buy based on your current lifestyle
How do you turn it all the way to 100?