Street Fighter IV BEST OF NOR CAL 2009/ FRIDAY 12- 04 - 2009 6:30 PM

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Strictly speaking for myself, I don’t really care whether Blanka707 behavior is ethical or not, but he had some inappropriate behavior that offended me.

At one point during the middle of the tournament, he threw cash in the air, and that cash primarily happened to be around where I was. It landed on me, bounced off me, and people shoved and bumped into me just to grab that cash.

It made me feel awkward and offended that someone tossed money at me as if I were to pick it up (this is my perspective of it) and it caused people to shove or bump me around. This comes to show that he made a decision to throw money with ‘good’ intentions which had caused indirect inconvenience for me and several others. Poor decision, or me making a big deal out of this? It’s all perspective.

Were the bumps or shoves bad enough to get injured, not really. But the principal of it all was what really offended me.

On the subject matter of what he does with the money, you’re right John. That is his business. And on that note, I can agree that all of us should probably stop asking questions regarding that.

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While I agree that it is unreasonable to expect a tourney organizer to tell us where the money he made is going - that **is **his personal business, after all - it is another thing entirely to expect a tourney organizer to explain where money allotted for a certain purpose is going. I feel that is completely justified and reasonable. These two are very different things.

You usually do not ask a stranger how they’re going to be spending your money if you’re paying them for goods/services if you know you will be getting your goods/services upfront. However, if you are giving them money specifically allotted and set aside for a specific purpose not directly related to the goods/services, it is completely reasonable and justified to ask where that money is ultimately going (and proof of it, in some cases). After all, you are paying that money for a specific purpose, and if you feel that money did not go to that purpose - well, there’s a problem.

Money that was said to be for renting the room did not go to renting the room. That is the problem here.

As I’ve said before in a post directed to blanka707 in an earlier thread for an earlier tourney, I have no problem with people pocketing money, so as long as it is clearly stated. I understand that it takes time and effort to run tournaments, and if people want to be compensated, more power to them. But it is unfair to take money from entry fees and not inform the people whose money you took.

blanka707, it is unreasonable for you to think that people should stop asking you questions and accept the fact that you’re “doing what’s good for the community” and "sacrificing so much for it. "If you feel you’re doing good by the community and sacrificing for it, why not be open and honest with us? Couldn’t you, as a sign of good faith after all the previous questions and drama, tell us where the money is going, instead of being defensive, lashing out, calling people names, and acting like you are the victim here?

Quite frankly, I’m surprised people still support your tournaments. I don’t understand why people would go to a tournament they ultimately might regret going to. But I agree with Choi where he says that is ultimately the players’ decisions.

If you don’t like a tournament, don’t go. You may feel like one measly person going/not going doesn’t matter - but if everyone has the mindset of “I don’t like this tournament - I will boycott it by not going,” then it will not succeed. Top players who are interested in nabbing the pot will not go because there will be no pot. Casuals and other players interested in competition/socializing will not go because competition/socialization will not exist.

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So, I’m not really sure I agree with this. It’s one thing to say ok guys I’m going to charge $5 dollars for a venue fee and $5 for entering. OK, now you come to the tournament knowing and you can’t complain you made the decision based off that information. But if you go and realize or find out that there isn’t really a venue fee I think at that point people kinda deserve an explanation or at least deserve to feel like something shady went on.

I’m pretty ok with organizers making a little something for themselves this shit seems NOT EASY but I think wording it correctly in your flyer/post/general advertising is more COMMUNITY than trying to hide it. If your intention is community then keep it like that, if its business to serve the community keep it an honest business. I’m pretty new to the scene but I think from what I’ve seen the people your trying to serve deserve that much at least.

And again I am really trying hard not to take the negative road on the event/organizer but it was a good example for my argument and recent so I used it.

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hrmmm seems to always be something about Blanka’s events…everytime one is done theres drama!

i didnt go but if someone were to throw money at me id be dumbass upset too. n then throwing a “Best of NorCal” Tourny knowing damn well there will be HELLA folkz to come compete for that title alone u should have been a little more organized. 4 set ups? ouch and only 2 that were for SF4? and then no Singles? damn thats 3 strikes…

But i do know these things take time n alot of effort to even organize but if u were sayin u had personal things to do prior to the tourny u shouldve thought of that before hand because u were supposed to have ur priorities straight and already being prepared for this tourny.

The 2 tournies i ran in Oakland i would come everyday of the week to the venue i was throwing it at to make sure everything was wired up…all the set ups would be there…and so we would NOT have any kind of problems what so ever.

juss plain n simple get your priorities straight because when you are organizing something like a tourny and your rep is on the line…the ONLY thing on your mind should be how your gonna produce a quality tourny and make a great experience for every1 attending.

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Okay so throwing money was a bad decision and also calling it a venue fee was a bad decision because the venue didn’t actually have a fee. The most fucked up thing that I heard was “let’s just fuck up this shit right now, not like we’re going to MGL ever again anyways.” from one of the hosts towards the latter part of the tournament.

Ok I understand if you’re saying that in a joking manner, but still you make the workers stay an extra 35 mins because of how poorly organized the event was plus whatever time they need to stay to close up.

Changing it from single to double elimination probably added another 2 hours to the time of operation

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lol andry :rofl:

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I have no problem with people making money off tournaments. I have a problem when they lie to me about it.

edit: on a more personal note i cringe everytime i see blanka707 say “community”. the day i never see it again can’t come any sooner.

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Good shit mike. Got to watch some good games last night, props for organizing a cool team tourney.

Could have been ran a little bit more smoother, I think even you can agree on that. For your January tourney, I would suggest prepare a little more and get an extra station(s).

As far as the money, I don’t care what you do with it, as long as your initial post is true in terms of what percentage goes into the pot and what percentage doesn’t (venue or pocketed or invested i don’t care). If you stay true to this, it is up to the “community” as you put it, to attend or not.

edit: and dont throw money in the air, niggas dont like getting rained on lol

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whoa…alot of shit just went down

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although he ran the tourney to bring the “community” together, he should have been more clear on the where the venue fee was going to go. hearing that $5 per player was going to the venue fee and finding out that the venue was used for free kind of felt like this was some shady shit. even though a good amount of people came, there should have been better/more set-ups so that the team tourney ran more smoothly.

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so, do we apologize to lintrix?

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rofl

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I was not aware that Blanka707 said the money was going towards room rental fees. I checked his original post and he does not say that anywhere. It just simply states ‘tournament fees.’ I did not scan this entire thread so perhaps he said it in another post.

Anyway, if he did say that, then you guys have every right to complain. Can somebody point me to where he said this?

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first page of the thread. also did people who lent out setups get money as stated?

edit: i am also interested in knowing if MGL actually forced the singles tournament onto him because of a “contract” as he stated or if he figured holding only one tournament was less profitable.

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http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost.php?p=7755026&postcount=11

This ends up being even more damning because there were only 3 set ups not MORE THAN 5.

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Thank you for the info. I was not aware of the claims he made since I did not read through the entire thread.

It’s clear he did not deliver as promised and was not honest about the fee reasons. You guys have every right to complain.

I stand corrected in my original post.

Blanka707, you have some explaining to do. If no satisfactory explanation is provided, you’ll be added to the “Tournament promoters to avoid” thread here.

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the funny thing about all of this and after reading the whole thread makes me realize how stupid blanka707 really is.

Cant believe you expect to make money off your shitty ass tourneys. When i did Fuddruckers which had way more people than your stupid ghetto tourneys, i never charged a stupid venue fee, in fact I lost money.Cause you know why? its called doing it for the community.

You claim everything your doing is for the community, but in reality its bullshit. You say you have to pay for people who bring Xbox’s and T.V’s when you know thats a flat out lie. If you were really doing this for the community, the community would always be happy to help you out.

Even if you did state that you would charge a 5 venue fee, your still trying to make money off these people. Its just sad that you think you are a part of the community, but in the end you really aren’t.

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blanka707 sounds like a buster. straight up.

Coming out of left field trying to bank on SF4.pfffft

Community is already here, and best of Norcal was decided at NCR. Who is you?

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<3.

Nima, ft5 3s for $10 when you come up :D.

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Seriously we dont need a tournament to decide who is the best norcal. We all i know im the best in norcal…in casuals.