Good Hyper Street Fighter 2 video with WW bosses!!!
Start these 2 videos @ exact same time! Itâs off the chain. Same tempo!!!
Dude why are you keep pushing playable ww bosses?
Those werenât even relevant to casual audience other than people being curious about them before they became properly (complete) usable and stable in CE.
Jion is also an advocator for Gill in 3S.
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Those bosses wasnât even really fun and nostalgic to used, other than to fight against.
They may have some sort of appeal initially but that wonât have a lasting impression because those appeal are just based on curiosity that never has some sort of replay value, multiplayer fun or even whole new decent game play experience.
Why not giving a new perspective in gameplay experience? because they were never design and planned from the ground up to give a decent gameplay other than to be a cheap obstacle to the player. What it does is that it breaks and cheap the game making it UN-fun after playing it for the 10th time.
Even in multiplayer aspect they are meh because they are meant to cheat the other lesser characters that are usable and plus they are incomplete as a option of a character in technical aspect of usability.
I can think of a lot of changes Iâd like to see in HSF2, but WW bosses should be available only as a cheat like Akuma, or not at all. It would be cool if you could play against them, though.
What I would like to see in a HSF2 patch is NORMAL mirror matches, all SSF2 colours available when choosing a SUPER character, the addition of HDR and USF2 versions of characters, SUPERTâ replacing SUPERT, and SUPERâ showing up as its own item in the mode select.
So, you could choose:
ULTRA
REMIX
ST NEW
ST OLD
SUPER
TURBO
CHAMP
NORMAL
Maybe one day Capcom will release a Hyper Collection, with updated versions of HSF2, HSFA, and Hyper version of SF3, so Sean can not suck so much.
All those WW bosses need to just be played against not to be played with via special condition, because they werenât even playable to begin with and there werenât no reasonable aspect because they arenât complete this was even discussed earlier in this thread, I was even wrong and just find out that even the SNES version of them wasnât even really meant to be usable.
WW bosses as playable characters does not even add anything good from multiplayer or single player experience the so called fun was from the curious and mystery about them before during WW era.
itâs even undeniable that the WW bosses definitive version as a usable characters was no other to look for and imagine other than their CE counterparts. No need for a separate iteration itâs a waste. Why? because they were designed to be used in that version that it got throws, complete normal attacks and sprite animations.
Iâd love to see a Hyper SF3 just for the wacky factor. If they could get Third Strike characters on Second Impact stages that would be worth it.
Second Impact or New Generation characters would be top though, right? All they are missing is red parry.
He also wants Akuma unbanned for ST.
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Instead weâll get USF3 with ERyu, VKen and Oni lol
But if weâll had a proper SF3 expansion I would prefer Claw, Dictator, Karin, Cammy, Sodom, Haggar and Menat or Juri instead.
As for Akuma in ST, We all know that he was playable but the thing is during those time ST was a Super version fix, So as a result we got a better version of Super characters and a broken newer character, that was rushed because competition for attention in arcade fighters was different back then.
What he needs is a total redesigned in special moves and normals from scratch not just an update on properties like recovery, boxes, priority and damage. So it means as a whole new character just using Akuma sprites.
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Yes, it was rushed because of Mortal Kombat II. Then ironically, the developers of Mortal Kombat II rushed their game as well because of Super Street fighter II and suchâŚ
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Vega is going to make a lot of people salty, I can taste the sodium. Hopefully these few pointers can help.
For dealing with wall diving hyubal (or whatever you call it) Vega:
Treat it like a better version of Vipers air burn kicks.
Certain characters have an easier time dealing with it than other character.
Characters with down charge anti airs usually has no problem dealing with it. Its side neutral and as long as you do it at the very last second, itâll always win. Blankaâs upball is especially good vs wall dives. He can snatch Vega before Vega can reach the wall. He still loses to Vega but not because of wall dives.
Balrogs lp headbutt has tons of invincibility and almost no recovery so even if he does a shallow dive to bait you, he canât punish you. Same with Deejay. Both those characters either beats Vega or goes even with him.
Characters like Ken and Cammyâs dp covers a huge area of the screen. It wont snatch Vega as well as Blankaâs upball, but it still works great.
Now we got the wall dives out of the way, there are two other ways he will kill you. Heâll either peck you to death with his superior pokes or play super turtly.
Know your normals and dont be afraid to psychic dp. Donât be afraid to challenge him air to air. There are a lot of air normals that has good angles which will beat most his normals clean.
Vega still is vulnerable to being rushed down. He needs to be in d/b position to charge for his flip kick. His throw range is slightly larger than Ryuâs but still very average.
A few characters can out turtle him. In fact, if it wasnât for hyubal vega, he would have almost no chance vs honda and a very slim chance vs bison.
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Hyoubal is lyfe
James Chen with another ramble on the Alpha series.
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Really like that video series so far. Good nostalgia for the old people, and a good summary for people who werenât around at the time.
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I would have liked if he had explained Danâs lore about him being a joke on Robert and Ryo from SNK (particularly KOF 96 with short fireballs). Pretty good overall though and I didnât even know about the special extra isms for A3
Some notes from a testing stream last night:
Seems to run well offline as well as online (tests were with both players in the UK and with no one else online, mind you). Probably just straight better than Fightcade on a modern OS. Loading times are fast, you go straight to character select without long-ass fancy animations.
ROM is ST, not 2X. Run ST on Turbo 2.
Disc version is still at wrong speed esp. for ST, day1 patch is already out if you got your hands on the game in advance and fixes it and adds training mode and a proper offline versus mode.
Training mode is better than 3SOE/HDR. Has the basic options youâd want including record and press button to play the recording, doesnât reboot the emulation every time you change settings. Not quite up to SFV/GGXrd training mode options, but has whatâs needed.
Casual lobbies fit 4 players. When the lobby is created the creator can set what games they want to be playable in the lobby. The players choose which of the lobbyâs games to play right before they go into their match. If they want to play different games the game that gets played is chosen at random. (ie. you can make say, ST only lobbies or ST+3S lobbies and so on)
ST Akuma and O.Characters are selectable in casual lobbies with the usual codes.
For Ranked play, you choose the game you want to play before starting the match search.
O.Characters are selectable in Ranked ST with the usual codes.
AKUMA IS SELECTABLE IN RANKED ST WITH THE USUAL CODE. Prepare your buttholes for some real nonsense.
tl;dr: Actually good product. By Capcom. Iâm confused. Organizing retro tournaments just got a lot easier. I really hope the Steam version runs well.
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For those wondering what kinds of nonsense Iâm talking about wrt Akuma:
Gets stunned, but recovers instantly.
High priority on buttons. (not unique in this regard though, see eg. O.Ryu and Chun)
MK and HK versions of ground tatsu are real reversals.
Has O.Shoto DPs that are fully invincible all the way up.
Donât quote me on this but his DP is probably impossible to safejump.
Air fireball owns some characters really bad. eg. Gief goes evenish with other shotos, but Lariat canât deal with air fireball at all.
Unlike SF4, air fireballs have instant recovery on reaching the ground.
You can use shakus to trap opponents into an unescapable chip-dealing blockstring in the corner - attempts to jump out will get tagged by the fireball.
Unlike SFV, Teleport is actually a good move.
Some Akuma footage if you want to take the monster on:
Mao Claw vs. PEC0 Akuma:
Chunkis Ryu vs. Shoji Akuma (bad sound warning):
Why did they bother with ranked ST at all if they were going to make Akuma selectable?? Whatâs the point if the top 50 will be almost all Akuma players? Retarded.
But hey, this is what people like Deviljin and Kalyx_Triad wanted. Changes are bad, right?
Thatâs an oversight, but ultimately a strawman argument when looking at the big picture.
Even in Japan he is a dishonorable character for tournaments because if played right you dont even get a chance to beat him like the top tiers of the other games. People here have played ST before and know Akuma is beyond the adaptation deal. He is literally too cheap to adapt to.
I imagine there will be an early patch to ban him from ranked as since this is a very arcade perfect/tournament driven game. O.Sagat will most likely stay selectable since he actually has losing matchups any way. Even in 3S OE it was based off the Dreamcast port which allowed Gill to be a playable character and there was just a selection to ban him from online modes. With SF AC wonât have that problem since you cant play Gill on the arcade cab.
Outside of that, youâre just arguing just to argue again.
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Yea, the people sticking to this game probably arenât going to be worried about rank anyway lol
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