all they did to Vega from Vanilla to Super was fix his still shitty hit boxes on normals. That alone made him from being teh worst character who could only win if the opponent really fucked up, to a usable character. See the diffrence
Shit tier to decent. That’s a big jump in tiers from a simple change. which was my point.
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Teleport…ok
Crouching medium…ok
Neutral jump…ok
Jump back air hadoken…ok
Street Fighter 4 magic dp reversal…GODLIKE!
Guy got a 3 frame crouching short, extended hitbox of his st.mp, target combo whiffs less, His EX run got major buffed, st.lp has a bigger hitbox, to deal with dive kick and longer range on his U2 which now does less damage.
Guy’s cr.lk and st.mp buff easily gives him one of the best hitconfirms in the game.
Fei still has the advantage I say.
Guy might do ok against Yun because guy can deal with dive kicks better than most.
gogo C-Tier Guile -___-"
Sakura’s ex tatsu is +4 on block, what’s the big deal with yun’s punch being +1
Range, speed and if I’ve read correctly, it goes through projectiles.
Sakura’s EX Tatsu isn’t stupid like that.
EX tatsu goes over projectiles, starts up in 12 frames, and has pretty good range.
The 12f startup is for the first hit, if you’re using it to cover distance you’re probably only going to be hitting with the later hits which is going to happen way after 12 frames. The distances they both cover aren’t even comparable anyway. Plus yun’s options on frame advantage are a lot scarier. And he also has an amazing backdash for dp baiting.
was playing devil’s advocate, agreed actually. It’s sort of dumb, but isn’t herp derp enough. Maybe if sak had a divekick or a command grab.
It annoys me is when Yun does EX-lunge, you block it, and the camera doesn’t quite keep up with the speed so for a very short moment you can’t even really see what’s going on. If his follow up wasn’t ambigous enough already, the game doesn’t even let you look -_-;
Against some chars Sakura’s EX tatsu crosses up if you block low at certain ranges. It’s a broken move.
/sarc
I couldnt find a picking a main thread so I’ll post here! I’m looking for a new main! But with characterists of playing dry as fucking and pretty lame, trying out Guile for now, I know Dhalsim is good for that game style too, but anyone else fit the bill? Whos the dryest character basically.
EX Lunge has speed and range but it doesn’t have projectile invincibility, his EX shoulder does.
@melflomil - The frame advantage is harder to deal with when it’s Yun than when it’s Sakura because he has a command grab, which makes the mixup scarier than Sakuras. Also, most Sakura players won’t randomly use EX Tatsu but Yun players can use it from nearly 3/4s of the screen.
Balrog is easily the driest character lol. Easy mode footsies, great AA’s, piss easy combos and safe pressure. Very dry!
Just do what I do and choose Balrog. Want awesome normals, great AAs, safe/armor-breaking specials, easy combos, meterless Ultra combos, and the ability to turtle the FUCK out of everybody? Choose Balrog. You don’t have to worry about cross-ups and mix-ups, he’s linear as hell, dude has zero cross-up moves and his overhead can seen coming a mile away.
With Sim you need to be very good at zoning, blocking and teching. Balrog requires some reaction and execution. But you can’t get any lamer than Honda.
Spam jumping fierce, that shit is like a wall. Punish everything with headbutt, whiff orochi to build meter. Basically get a nice life lead and rest on your big fat ass for the rest of the match waiting for a time out. 
But Honda’s getting nerfed in AE apparently. Though I’m not sure how bad it is for him.
Lol I’ll try out then, but Balrog dryer then Guile? Really? Lol @ what Vulcan said.
Plus, Balrog is still good in AE, while Guile is…well, RIP Guile.
We’re thinking long-term here!
Balrog needs to fucking die already.
Oh I see how it is; can’t have top-tier black characters so we gotta get rid of him.
I just don’t think it’s acceptable for a character to be so easy to play and yet so effective in a game that’s supposed to be a clash of skills.
I don’t feel good playing as him and I don’t feel good playing against him because I know my opponent is getting a leg up, a stupidly low entry.