SSF4 Tier List Thread REBOOT Super + AE (Updated: 02-01-09)

Classic Fighting Games Ultra Street Fighter IV
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Super Street Fighter IV Tier Lists/Information (UPDATED 02/09 Community Tier List Added)
Super Street Fighter IV Arcade Edition Tier Lists/Information (UPDATED 01/06)

The other thread was getting huge, let alone all the boobs trying to derail the topic. Time for a reboot.

Until AE information is a tad more established and we have a confirmation on what the wider spread, console version update is going to be – I welcome AE discussion in this thread as well. Eventually AE stuff will be broken off into its own thread, if not its own board. It’s not as if I can keep you guys from bringing AE into this shit right now anyways. Just keep in mind that some members of our SRK family can be really slow on the up-take, so you may need to clarify which game you’re talking about until a thread split happens.

**Note on 12/19 “update”: **Not really an update, outside of updating the Japanese Wiki tier list (that update wound up on the backburner). More of a “birth” date for the new thread. On with the freak show:

What tier lists aren’t:

-A popularity list
-A list of characters YOU have a hard time against
-A personal assessment on what kind of person/player you are
-In stone

What tier lists are:

-A thought out opinion on which characters have the most/least advantage matches
-Flexible…these things will and do change as time goes on

As long as you at least understand what these lists aren’t, you will save yourself a lot of headache. So here are the tier lists that are floating around…

All the tier lists here come from “organized” sources. These are neither my list nor Joe Blow random’s. **If you know of an organized tier list that should be here that is missing, please let me know and I’ll add it.
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There’s a pretty basic concept to this thread that is getting lost: We need these lists in order to have a solid starting point for the discussion. These lists are meant to be questioned, discussed and eventually changed. These are not end-all-be-all lists. I don’t know how to drive this point any closer to home for some of you.

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Super Street Fighter IV Tier Lists

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Mago and Nemo list**: Put together by two higher up Japanese players. Mago, Fei Long/Sagat and Nemo, Chun-Li. Translated by Azrael. Link goes to Eventhubs.com.
Props to Kyokuji for the info.
**July 2010
**Global List (Through discussions on forums)

Global List

[details=Spoiler]
**A:**Guile, Abel, Chun-Li, Dictator, E. Honda, Boxer, Rose, Blanka
**B:**Ryu, Dhalsim, Claw, Ken, Rufus, C. Viper, Akuma, Fei Long, Cammy, Gouken, El Fuerte, Cody, Sagat, Ibuki, Zangief, Seth, Guy, Adon
**C:**Sakura, Dudley, Juri, Dee Jay, Hakan, Makoto, Dan, T. Hawk, Gen[/details]

Arcadia Ranking (Mago and Nemo’s personal list)

Arcadia Ranking

[details=Spoiler]
A:Balrog, E. Honda, Guile, Fei Long, Cammy, Rufus
**B:**Abel, Dictator, Blanka, Chun-Li, C. Viper, Ryu, Dhalsim, Akuma, Sagat, Rose, Ibuki, Zangief, El Fuerte, Claw, Gouken, Ken, Seth
**C:**Adon, Dee Jay, Juri, Dudley, Cody
D:Gen, Sakura, Guy, Dan, T. Hawk, Hakan, Makoto [/details]
Japanese atwiki.jp: Japanese wiki-like source. I’m not sure who the main source is (random users? One poster? My Japanese is not strong enough to figure it out). Also contains a match up breakdown chart.

July 2010

Japanese Wiki 2010

[details=Spoiler]
A Chun Li, Honda, Bison, Guile, Balrog
B+ Cammy, Ryu, Seth, Sagat, Rufus, Abel, Dhalsim, Akuma, Fei Long
B Rose, Ken, Blanka, Zangief
C Dee Jay, Adon, Vega, Ibuki, Viper, Fuerte, Cody
D Gouken, T-Hawk, Dudley, Juri, Sakura
E Guy, Gen
F Hakan, Dan
M Makoto[/details]

July 2010 Match up spreadsheet

(Thanks JohnP for the update and link to spreadsheet)

**May 2010
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Japanese Wikiw May 2010

[details=Spoiler]
** S**: None
A+: Sagat, Rufus, Abel, Guile
A: Balrog (Boxer), Chun-Li, E.Honda, Akuma, Ken, Ryu, Bison (Dictator), Ibuki, Dhalsim
B+: Rose, Zangief, C.Viper, Dudley, Seth, T.Hawk, DeeJay
B: Juri, Cammy, Vega (Claw), Blanka, Gouken, Cody, Adon, El Fuerte
C+: Makoto, Fei Long, Sakura, Hakan, Guy, Gen
C: Dan[/details]

I Play Winner****: Bay Area based group, claims to utilize knowledge from players of both coasts.

January 2010

I Play Winner January 2010

Spoiler

**A: **Akuma, Fei-Long, Guile, Cammy, Chun-Li, Dictator, Boxer, E.Honda, Abel
**B: **Ryu, Rufus, Dhalsim, C.Viper, Seth, Zangief, Ibuki, Sagat, Dudley, Blanka, DeeJay, Juri, Adon, Ken
**C: **Rose, Claw, El Fuerte, Guy, T.Hawk
**D: **Cody, Gouken, Gen, Makoto, Sakura, Dan, Hakan

January Match Up Chart
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August 2010
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I Play Winner August 2010

Spoiler

** A:** Guile, Akuma, Dictator, Chun-Li, Cammy, Abel, Rufus, Boxer, E.Honda
B: Ryu, Dhalsim, C.Viper, Rose, Seth, Sagat, Zangief, Ibuki, Juri, Dudley, Blanka, Adon, Fei-Long
C: El Fuerte, Ken, Guy, DeeJay, Claw, T.Hawk, Cody
D: Gouken, Gen, Hakan, Makoto, Dan, Sakura

August Match Up Chart
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May 2010**

I Play Winner May 2010

[details=Spoiler]**A+: Rufus, Akuma, Guile, Abel, Sagat **
A: Dictator, C. Viper, Ryu
B+: Boxer, Chun Li, E. Honda, Dhalsim, Ibuki
B: Zangief, Blanka, Seth, Dudley, Cammy, El Fuerte, Ken, Juri, Rose
C: T. Hawk, DeeJay, Guy, Fei Long, Cody, Gouken, Claw, Adon, Gen
D: Hakan, Makoto, Sakura, Dan[/details]

May Match Up Chart

Community Match Up Tier List Generator: A community generated tier list that cuts out all of the in fighting and chin wagging associated with “tier list by comity”. List updates in real time based off of votes submitted. More information on how this list works.

Get Your Tournament: This is a slightly unorthodox, but interesting list compiled not out of opinionated analysis, but pure real-world tournament results. May be of interest to the discussion, even though relying on player pool results is not an exact science for tier placement. Also note: Ryu FADC’ing Mathew Slater of the Patriots in the site’s banner image. Obviously Mathew Slater is D tier.

August 2010

Get Your Tournament August 2010

[details=Spoiler]The list is not put together by group letters, like other tier lists. Just a number system from most to least popular. Here are the characters in order:

1-6: Dhalsim, Ryu, Dictator, Rufus, Honda, Akuma
**7-12: **Cammy, Boxer, Abel, Claw, Chun, C.Viper
**13-18: **Guile, Rose, Zangief, Cody, Dudley, Adon
**19-24: **Blanka, Ibuki, Sagat, El Fuerte, Ken, Seth
**25-30: **Juri, Fei Long, Guy, T.Hawk, Makoto, Gouken
**31-34: **Gen, Dee Jay, Sakura, Dan[/details]

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Reserved for Super

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Reserved for Super Again

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Super Street Fighter IV AE Tier Lists
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Livedoor AE BP Tier List**: From what I can tell, this is just a ranking based off of BP earned in Japan. Not really a “tier” list, more a gauge of in-game results. It’s better than nothing, which is what AE currently has tier list wise. Props to Suparnovax for the link.

January 2010

Livedoor AE BP Tier List January 2010

Spoiler

S: Yun
AAA: Dictator, Ken, Sagat, Feilong
**AA: **C.Viper, Akuma
A: Abel, Blanka, Ryu
BBB: Makoto, Boxer, Rufus, Cody, Ibuki
BB: Sakura, Zangief, Guile, Chun-Li
B: Dhalsim, Yang, Cammy, Claw, Juri, Adon
**CCC: **E.Honda, T.Hawk, Dudley
CC: Guy, Rose, DeeJay
**C: **El Fuerte, Seth
D: Gen, Gouken
**E: **Hakan, Dan

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Reserved for AE

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Reserved for AE 2

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Sosage is S-Tier Mod.

Thanks for keep this forum clean and classy.

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Idk why you said its too soon for AE tiers. Top players after minutes of having the game declared top tier. Surely that should be enough to start the bandwagons

/sarcasm

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Seth for bottom tier.

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Yes cause top players only do jump back fp. I think he will stay mid.

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This statement is hurting my head a little.

Anyways Blanka for bottom tier

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I’m not being serious. Seth forum only complaint was j.fp being removed.

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I have a hunch that Chun-Li, Fei Long, Bison and Abel will be better than the twins overall.

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Why Bison? He’s still good, but pretty much all he received are neutral or nerfs (supposedly) and he wasn’t even that great of a character in Super. I mean he was high tier, but definitely not Top Tier (unless beating up the worst characters in the game makes a character top tier).

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he got better by proximity, like the other characters I mentioned. two of his bigger enemies (guile and honda) received the nerf bat.

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I don’t see how the Guile v Bison matchup changes though, Guile already rapes Bison in vanilla, and Guile, although nerfed in AE, is definitely not as bad as in vanilla.

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I didn’t say he’d win that fight. But it isn’t going to be as bad as super. That’s what counts.

Also, it’s a matter of “who’s left”, *since if *Guile isn’t holding a spot in the top 5, then another character gets bumped up to replace the spot.

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Tear lists.

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Here’s my top 3 tier list for the most bitch ass whiney character forums.

  1. M. Bison - They’ve been crying since early vanilla and they only breifly stopped for the first couple weeks of super and then continued to cry since. They cry and moan to an extent which is unfathomable to most humans.

  2. Seth - Since Super in the Seth forums apparently when your broken bullshit is nerfed and when you your character decends to upper middle tier this means that you are basically playing Roll. The crying continues in AE where Seth had his gay ass nj. fp taken away in exchange for a health and stun buff.

  3. Blanka - While Blanka players might have more reason to complain than the other two, it’s still not an excuse. The forums have been flooded with tears of Blanka players. Advice: move the fuck along and find another character. You aren’t five years old and I hope your not emotionally attached to a fictional green cat.