Yeah vanilla seth was broken bman. Good call.
No, he just had some dumb shit that needed to go and it did. End of story.
Not at all.
I’m with Bman on this one. Vanilla Seth was dumb as hell… Super Seth somewhat less so. I’m pretty happy with the changes they made to AE Seth
Don’t care about Seth, but for the other two characters… It’s just that other people cry about how good those characters are and won’t bother to learn them (or maybe they’ve tried and failed). If you’re scared of Bison, you probably suck or are using a low tier character. Bison is more annoying than scary. Same with Blanka.
Tokido just updated his blog. Apparently Bonchan thinks Sagat is top tier again in AE. He also posted some SSFIV Gouki vs Sagat matchup info. He says Gouki’s vortex is called “Tokido shiki” in Japan.
Where were all the dumb seths abusing all of his dumb vanilla things?
you have to admit, jump fp was pretty stupid. not broken, but damned annoying, and stupid
Look a vanilla as a whole. Yeah seth better. He died faster too.
Eh, I’d say most characters in the game have some way around this. Hell, if you force a trade with a heavy button, you’ll probably break Seth’s glass jaw.
Look at this AE tier discussion go.
Ok, yeah sorry I took it off topic. Here let me attempt to bring it back on.
Tokido thinks that the top four characters in AE are Akuma, Fei Long, Yun, and Yang.
Discuss.
I don’t think this game will have a clear top3/4. I think it’ll be closer to a top8-10, there are too many characters that I see having potential to be very good.
Sakura for example has a very good chance of having a positive matchup against all of the top4 that Tokido proposed, Akuma she will definitely have a good matchup against due to her getting stronger and Akuma getting nerfs that are vital in that matchup (escape tatsu and st.hk whiffing her when she is crouching).
Feilong is 5.5 in Sakuras favour in Super imo because she has good punishment on all of his rekkas and she outpokes him in footsies, she’s also good at anti-airing him and she can punish him extremely hard for trying some shenanigan like tenshin/chicken wing.
Due to Fei gaining ex rekka (more safe) it might move closer to a 5.5, but that also depends on what changes Sakura get and how they affect the matchup. At the worst this matchup will be dead even, which is not bad at all having a 5-5 against a top-tier character.
Yun and Yang both will have a hard time against Sakura imo, because first of all they are low health characters and Sakura is probably the best damage dealer in AE, she does not have trouble dealing with divekicks either (c.hp/cl.hp/st.mp/j.mp/lp sho). Her okizeme against them will be very good because their shoryus move them forward, that means if she does a lk shunpu on their wakeup they will just go straight through her and she can punish them afterwards for free, so they have to respect her okizeme no matter what. They don’t seem to have very strong anti airs either from what has been seen so far while Sakura has some of the best jumpins in the game. If Geneijin is good enough Yun might not have as bad a matchup against Sakura, but I’m almost certain Yang will have a tough time.
Characters that I believe have the potential to place in the top10 (no specific order) are:
Fei
Yun
Yang
Akuma
Sakura
Adon
Chun
Boxer
Viper
Cammy
Ken
Guile
Ibuki
Ryu
You forgot Cammy players, Vega players
Japanese think Twins/Sagat/Gief/Fei/Akuma/Viper are top tier right now, I’d imagine Balrog is still up there and so is Abel and Honda. I never thought Bison or Chun were top 5 in super, I don’t think they’ll be top 5 now - top 10, probably. Guile is probably around top 10 still, Cammy is still strong I bet.
Don’t sleep on AE Deejay.
LOL @ Ryu being top tier. People are still holding on to that, huh.
Still funny people rank Bison that high. He’s still a good character but low damage and no come back factor.
Being in a list of 14 characters vying for top10 counts as top tier these days?
Times have changed
Being top 10 out of 35 isn’t like being top 10 in a cast of 20.
Either way, Ryu was good because he was unfavorable in like 2-3 matchups. If that isn’t a good character, I don’t know what is.
I stopped reading after this