SSF4 Tier List Thread REBOOT Super + AE (Updated: 02-01-09)

Hmm…Skatan, fill us in, how much damage can Sakura get with two bars to FADC a shouken? It was already a ton in super, I know…

off a jumpin you can do like 400 damage w/o any bar

seems like japan forgot about rufus after vanilla.

i didnt buy the sakura hype in super and i still dont in ae.

because i’m sure people will let you jump in for free to do a 400 point combo

or reset them 100x. this shit isnt marvel.

there was sakura hype for super? :o

Skatan doesn’t rely on resets… Neither does uyro who got a 77 win streak with sakura…

People have a thing for making average sound broken. Especially when being average includes a couple of ok reset and pressure OS shenanigans.

Being average also isn’t a bad thing, let alone a death sentence in IV (well…at least in Super…when Ono didn’t admit to trying to re-establish an S-tier character…).

Yeah why can Uryo beast with Sakura yet everyone else gave up hope?Uryo displays some common sense matchup knowledge and solid fundamentals with her and makes her look far from bottom tier.Hes in the top 10 bp rankings at the moment with her so I hope his decision to stick with her solves the mystery about Sakura’s tier placement.

Then again,seeing Uryo vs Zangitan was quite painful and he admittedly switched to Viper for that one.

for 5 seconds or so… it was just as long as the mak and dud hype… very quite now.

Sakura is a very strong character in SSFIV, just underplayed. It´s not hype, the character is competitive and pretty good (and much better in AE)

Sakura isn’t bad in Super but she’s severely underplayed. I’ve seen more Gens than Sakura. She dishes out high damage/stun and has decent normals. The few people who do play Sakura are strong with her.

Sanford said he thought Sakura was much better and was gonna use her as one of his tournament characters.Only time he really pulled her out was East Coast Throwdown for like one or two matches.

After that though,only person I know who uses her in the states is Citiofbrass.

Sak with 2-3 bars in footsie range is ridiculously scary, not to mention she has a good FA, blockstrings, and blows up cr.tech meaning she has more opportunities to deal damage than just jumping in or resetting.

I dont play seth, but its obvious from playing agianst decent and good Seth’s, that he cant zone as good any more. so how the fuck is he supposed to set up his rush down? Walk forward and jump in with no cover? Please.

I feel you Seth players on unnecessary nerfs.

Why are people doubting Sakura? Because no one is doing anything with her? Your fucking logic has been blown up hundreds of times already. dont deny the fact that Sakura is actually good.

so is more than half the cast.

but if you’re gonna make some bogus ridiculous claims like how shes top 5 and actually have an advantage vs some of the top tier characters, be prepared to be called out.

dunno has anyone remember this but everyone hyped the fuck out of evil sakura in mvc2 back in the days just because of some theoretical bullshit (teleport thru and between ahvb, instant 50% beam super). of course that didnt last.

Sakura only needs 2 bars and c.mk to get 430+ damage. With 3 bars she gets 460 from c.mk and puts them in the corner from pretty much anywhere on the screen. And while Sakura isn’t able to jump in “for free” she’s one of the few characters that is actually allowed to jump in most matchups because she’s got very strong air normals coupled with her air shunpu which will make shoryukens whiff, and on block you’re + a lot. When she makes a shoryu whiff with air shunpu she can punish with cl.hp x lk shunpu, c.hp x ex shunpu, otoshi x2, meaty lv3 hado, so people tend to get scared of trying to go for that shoryu when they learn the risk.

Can’t shotos adjust and use cr. fp?

It doesnt matter she has ass for wake up. And she is weak against more than half the cast. She isnt good.

/sarcasm

Youre never going to get anywhere with this discussion. Its been stated in the other thread that you and Uryo doing godlike reaction cr.mk into insert move here, does not make her good. Just like Mago playing Fei and him saying Fei is top isnt.

Im sure someone who hasnt played Sakura as much as you knows more than you, im also sure that the average player knows more about a character than the top player using him.

I say, wait till the AE settles and those japs play a bit. then everyone will dick ride and say OMFG.

Have you noticed that its exactly the same people who say Sakura/Akuma/Honda blows also try and use a traditional tier list for this game?
sakura is actually good.

well, by that logic, almost everyone has a good jump in and most of the cast still have a better way to get in on their opponent.

dunno whats worse.

people thinking their character is crap or people making their character seem better than they actually are.

i’m not saying sakura is unplayable, but top 5 material and she beats fei long? :rofl:

I love that the response against Sakura isn’t actually disputing anything, just saying “Nah, she isn’t. I won’t state why or where you’re wrong but you are.”

Sakura’s had a stigma of being a bad character since Vanilla that she hasn’t been able to shake. She’s gotten nothing but buffs since Super and AE dropped and people still aren’t willing to even consider that she could POSSIBLY be a good character even though she’s had a ton of shit added to her arsenal. I guess she needs a divekick or some other fucking retarded bullshit to be considered “good” these days/