SSF4 Tier List Thread REBOOT Super + AE (Updated: 02-01-09)

until those games do something interesting enough to draw more than a cult following, we will have to agree to disagree

o_O

Can we get this post reallocated into the Dan-tier section, where it belongs?

Just… wow.

I lack the words to fully articulate how mind-numbingly banned from newer, kinder SRK speech the above post is.

As I see it.

whatever. im just saying what most people think. ever seen the streams when one of those games pops up at a recent major? viewers dont drop by the thousand because something good is on

i give tekken more credit than those games. and guess what. tekken sucks too

Most stream viewers are sheeple.

Most stream monsters are were-sheeple.

As I see it.

oh, i see. the 10 or 15 that keep watching the 10 man tourney are the non-sheeple then. couldnt be that that type of game is un-fun to play or watch

So, uh, not be off topic, but what do you guys think about the tier lists for Super >_>

So… GG, Tekken, and KoF are neither fun to play, nor to watch.

Gotcha.

Did you start out your competitive fighting game experience with SF4?

Not that I’m even mildly curious - I merely enjoy positing rhetorical questions.

Which one?

I.e. which version, and which list?

As I see it.

you are correct, sorry for the off topic hippo.

discussion of KoF, MB, TvC, and GG is as un-fun as playing or watching KoF, MB, TvC and GG

also, what does it matter what fighting game you start off competing on? i could have told you 15 years ago KoF was a steaming pile of excrement. the vacant machine at my local arcade was evidence enough to draw a logical conclusion

as if i started with an older game i could “see the glory”.

LOL @ HNIC mike. this guy is the type of person to think call of duty is the best FPS ever. what a joke. the fact that he said tekken, guilty gear, and KOF are trash gave me more than enough reason to take this guy as a joke. he is right about blaz blue tho, that game is shit. just for different reasons rather than “LOLZ ITS NOT SF4 AND ITS NOT POPULAR” type of shit.

I was being a little sarcastic, but damn, too much hate.

Anyways, I guess I was referring to the latest one that I last saw on Eventhubs(Obligatory EH joke).

eh,… maybe i shouldnt lump GG in there. but all that other shit. garbage. little girls with brooms and mop buckets do not make good characters.

God damn, if I wanted to talk about Guilty Gear and shit I’d go to that board. Fuck.

Anywho, I’d hate to bring up Sakura again, so let’s look at another character…Vega. Fuck it, just Vega.

Obviously he’s come along since IV, but where do we see him now? Like most IV characters, I think he handles the new cast pretty well…can we get some Vega guys who care to comment on where they see him?

If you think a fighting game is good because it’s fun to watch then I think you have your priorities misplaced.

Then again, a bunch of people love mortal kombat.

I see this. I think the following:

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Your assumptions are as bad as your wake up Dragon Punch… Enjoy your chin looking stupid as you eat an Ultra Spark.

Let’s take your listed main… Akuma and use him in a situation with a Potentially large reward.

I just knocked you down. I now have to think about whether you’re an idiot or you actually know what you’re doing.

Let’s try Forward Run, press LP or LK at the correct range, watch that reckless DP roar, charge Focus, Crumple, Run Stop Fierce, now, while I’m focusing on execution, let’s test the waters… after an RSF rep, I run and stop, oops, you’re still mashing DPs… my reward is walk up RSF you’re seeing stars, time to taunt, give you another RSF, game over. better luck next time.

Let’s assume intelligence on your part. Same thing. I ran at you on knockdown and stopped. You chose to stand your ground and hold down back. Fundamental wakeup defense results in no further damage to you, a reset situation, and myself squandering an opportunity because I chose the option with the least risk.

But this is just one aspect of his game. If I want after that knockdown I can run the hell away and kill the clock. Not exactly the best idea versus akuma. But hey, it’s doable. I have a wall jump to switch sides, ex run to run through hits and, instead of eating your face with RSF, switch sides with an intentionally missed Tostada, or run right under your jump in (As dangerous a guess as any), I can zone you out to an extent in this way as well really, I can burn meter for EX run at mid range, run through your fireball or far HK for RSF.

Put some more time into the character. He’s far from braindead. He’s high risk high reward where in some cases he’s gotta nickel and dime for his damage.

TORTIIIIIIIIIIIIILLA! dash dash dash back run TORTIIIIIIIIIIIIILLA! dash dash dash back run TORTIIIIIIIIIIIIILLA! dash dash dash back run TORTIIIIIIIIIIIIILLA!

Works on boss Seth all day.


On topic:

Call me crazy but Fuerte has a chance to go UP in tier in AE. His sorta-kinda-but-not-really get out of jail card, the EX Guac (and other guacs too) had recovery nerfed to make his escaping harder Same with Propeller Tortilla’s invincibility. Ultra Spark was nerfed to appease the crybabies and to make Armor Cancel ultra a touch harder. But Several normals were improved, making him more fundamentally sound, Sudden stop has been reported to recover faster, Close Fierce’s hitbox seems better as well, which means easier RSF, and Calamari Slide seems to recover faster making for a better nickle and dime move.

Fuerte’s got plenty of free tickets to Splash Mountain if interested.

So I know that everyone says the twins are godlike and I woudlnt compare them with the dudley hype before SSF4 got released, but what bad MU do you think they’ll have? Their divekick jsut doesn’t look as good as Rufus so I have a hard time imaging they’ll have that many MU in their advantage.

There’s been some high damage combos with Yun’s Genei Jin… but I don’t see it. Right now I think it’s too early to tell. Daigo seems terrified of Zangief, and for good Reason. Genei Jin looks useless against Gief and Yang’s Rekkas don’t seem as safe as Fei’s.

It’s too early to tell right now.

Is it true that you can get a free dirty bull after a blocked dive kick from the twins?

that’s a helluva way to downplay it lol

get knocked down by akuma or abel. don’t worry about it, no big deal.

Unless you talk to people who play really good Vega’s, or someone who has played Vega past a cr.mp level, most views on Vega are way the fuck off and comical.

Like that time Sabin commented during Makoto vs Uryo gods garden matches, and Sabin said taht Makoto randomed out Uryo because Vega could now random people out. WTF? Or when the peeps in the AE changes thread on the SSF4 main board said Cosmic Heel nerf was OK you can now combo EX RCF into cr.mp.

any way to early to tell. With the loss of Cosmic Heel, the godlike buff of cr.mk, and the lack of any decent Vega videos; we wont know for a while.

Pedo, you should check the Team Vega thread, I posted some AE Vega notes there. CH is still very much usable, its only unsafe from point-blank range (where it looks like Vega is hitting you with his ass rather than his leg), at mid it was completely safe from what I tested (around -1 I’d say) and at max its neutral so you can still do all the Shenanigans in ssf4.
plus, the new c.mk pretty much covers CH’s uses, it blows up crouch tech and its safe :]

dunno why is everyone complaining about viper but not akuma.

does it really matter if she doesnt play like a “traditional” street fighter character? why does every character need to play like ryu, ken and guile?

everything she has is not new in the street fighter world.

as ice_rei mentioned, seismo feints is pretty much the same concept as jab feints with ryu and his fireball. ryu have fake fireballs in the alpha series and hdr. same with cody in a3 and its much useful than the fake rocks in ssf4.

no one should be complaining about burn kick mixups. i guess no one has played against st vega before. compared to his wall dives, her burn kicks aren’t even that bad.

seismo hammers is the equivalent of a fireball, you’ll be surprised how underused that move is with the majority of viper players. this is her “zoning” game and very few viper players have mastered that.

and her super jump, rolento had that long before she did.