Uhhh if you’re talking about scissor kick pressure… On hit, cr. lk, cr. lk, cr. lk xx lk scissor kick does less damage than his throw. And it has 2 2-frame links. That’s his biggest pressure weapon too. Otherwise you eat like 10 chip damage for every blocked scissor kick. If you are Honda, you can random throw out ex-headbutt which will beat most of Bison’s moves for a much better risk/reward during his pressure. Also, Bison can’t punish ex-headbutt.
what the hell are you guys talking about?? i’m responding to that guy who said yung/yang whichever one could juggle ultra off of a MK, & i named all the other characters that can too
& it’s clearly unfair cause only these few characters can do it, Honda can’t juggle ultra off of any normal (that i know of)
crouching LP is not a juggle, & it also requires charge to do, you can’t just crouching LK someone into ultra (Gen) with him
I guess it’s also unfair that Honda can’t throw fireballs…
I just had to laugh.
Do you play Gen? Do you understand the properties of that move you are talking about? I assume you mean Crane c.hp (‘touch of death’) which is no no way an unfair move. It has a ridiculously slow start-up and is basically never practical to do during footsies, or almost any situation really. Perhaps as a wake-up tool every once in while and during a ver, very specifically timed walldive it can combo, but that rarely happens.
Honda’s whole body is a projectile 
i’m gonna play the devils advocate.
sf4 gen: mk xx hands, ex oga to gtfo, crossup shenanigans, pretty good normals
sf4/ssf4 honda: c.lp xx hands, ex headbutt to gtfo, ochio throw shenanigans, good normals.
sf4 gen: wtf was capcom thinkin.
so yeah, sf4 gen did sorta play like honda.
I was just referring to his comment on ‘a move Gen has that does 200 damage’ Not the discussion on whether or not they are alike (I would disagree on that too though).
you may want to read again cause i never said such a thing…the guy blabbing nonsense about that was pedoviejo
& you’re all taking this out of context, my comments were (& still are) about normals that juggle into ultra/super, per what the original complaint was about
So what normal does Ryu, Bison have that sets up Ultra? Jump forward mp? come on, why you jumping at Ryu with the wrong air normal? So what, its unfair that Vega has a juggle into Ultra as well that requires the opponent to fuck up? Its unfair that honda cant juggle into Ultra? Its not fair that honda can stick out cr.lp for safe in a nuetral positioin and charge long enough for Super, which he can? Its not fair for Fei or Cammy for not having a juggle as well? You want to know what’s unfair, Fei Long, Sakura, getting buffed, while Ryu gets nerfed, and Sagat stay the same.
QFT. Ryu didn’t need to get nerfed more meanwhile sagat is close to being vanilla.
lightning hand to super. Piss easy to do.
Gen has two ways to linking his ultra from both of his stances.
Wait, close to being Vanilla? What?
it means he never actually played vanilla sagat, so he’s going to talk out of his ass about tiers.
^^
Strawberry will never be as good as vanilla…
Yeah I never played vanilla…lol sounds like someone is talking out there ass aboout who plays vanilla.
and lets take the context of what I said of “close” and try to put it as “he is back” even though I never said that he’s back to himself.
God I love noobs on srk.
As someone that actually has gotten to play the game, I can verify the character is pretty damn close to being like Vanilla.
So he is back to his Tiger Shot shooting glory? Yes, I used to play a very aggressive fireball only game in Vanilla.
tiger knee traps?
Unless he has gone back to, “HERPA DERP!!! Guess what, I won again!”, he’s not close to being like vanilla.
What? No man…
I was saying that vanilla ice cream will always be better then strawberry ice cream.