SSF4 Gen Arcade Changes

Yeah, but once you filter out Yun there’s a pretty good mix at the top.

Sooner or later, we will have a couple top Gen’s in AE. Just need it to come out to console and we all grind it out!

:mad:

well, despite tier list rankings, Amiyu is showing that Gen can be competitive at high levels

its not the same thing, but even in vanilla Gen was said to be bottom tier but it was more like mid if used properly…

now with better footsies and damage output, he shouldnt be as “bad”

we’re talking about japan
only in case Amiyu drops him… that would suck :frowning:

You should also remember Japan has never really truly played against good Gen so they can’t say from experience where he stands on the tier ranking. All they know of Gen is what they saw from Yeb over the years. Other then that they couldn’t care less. Those Japanese love Yeb. lol

Wow so many Yuns on the ranking list…haha, he’s becoming a virus. But like someone mentioned we have a good mixture of characters. who is Wa? his Makoto must be scary.

i believe he was a grandmaster viper in vanilla. he also goes by haitani or something

People have been bashing the c lk to c mk link and saying HP > MK as the better new link. We’ll see about it. I’ve got some mixed feelings about Gen so far. I lost to a Juri last week, and I didn’t really play the game for awhile. I’m not saying I’m good, but I think Gen being on that lower tier of the new charts is valid. He still is horrible on wake-up defense, and AE is pretty offensive.

Maybe it’s not the Japanese don’t know much abou Gen, but they know all they need to know. Rush the old man down and pound him to death cause he sucks on wake-up.

@HNIC Mike: I gotta find some footage of his makoto. since he main viper back in vanilla arcade, would you say his viper was better than uryo?

anyway, yea Gen those have some problems on wake-up…the only options that he has is wake-up grab, ex or LK geiko, and backdash. I’ll normally go with LK geiko but you can only do this like once if your dealing with a smart player leaving me to just backdash or grab.

no. not better than uryo. theres plenty vids of his makoto on youtube tho. just search wa 75842

Not by a long shot. There’s plenty of footage of his viper on shinakumas youtube channel.

haha okay thanks guys

I’m compiling a list of who TC->HK Gekiro works/whiffs on in AE, since it’s very character specific. I’ll see how much of it I can get done in between midterms. UCLA just got AE!

Whiff: Dan, DeeJay, Fei Long

Hit: Guy, Makoto, Cody, Dudley

C.Lk xx C.Mk has a use just like everything else. It’s a great way to end a round and it’s a good way to get some basically free damage

I used it when they were blocking. Just walk up a C.Lk, C.Lk, C.Lk, C.Lk xx C.Mk xx Hands

If they try to do something, eat the whole combo

Doesn’t do much, but it’s a combo and super if you have it

Does anyone know if the hp mk target combo is going to mess with the slide method for hands at all? Seems like that hp to mk input is going to be pretty fast and the hp might still count as a part of the hand input. Wondering if I’m gonna have to get used to going from mk after the target combo up to mp instead of hp.

I was using the slide method at CtF and it was working fine

how do you slide mk hands?

Hp,Mp,Lp,Mp,Hp

same

Although I’ve been practicing C.Mp to hand for AE

I do

C.Mp (Slide)Lp,Mp(Double Tap)Hp

cool. for c.MP I use my index finger to press the MP, then slide my finger from HP, MP, LP, MP, HP.

I used to do c.MP, LP, LP, MP, HP. But I’ve been so good at not taking my finger off the LP that most times I would treat my slide as if I were doing the MK Hands, so Hands wouldn’t come out.