SSF4 Akuma thread

[KiMo5aBi]

I really don’t see what Akuma needs improvement in. Any MORE improvement would make him a broken character.

Sagat’s strong but not overpowered. I mean he’s REALLY strong, but if you compared his match ups to 3s Chun it’s not too bad.

He is OP both american and japan tier lists suggest so and if not then you haven’t faced a Sagat player. I read something saying that no sagat made it to the evo 09 finals(which is true) but if Mago was there then we would be watching Mago vs Daigo in the Evo 09 finals instead of Jwong.

[O.Red]

That’s just an opinion. Both Akuma’s and Blanka’s do 600 damage fully charged. It doesn’t matter if it’s your (or my) opinion or not, it won’t change the fact that they’re both the most powerful ultra in the game.

I’m saying what’s the point?

[NeREMIXED]

He is OP both american and japan tier lists suggest so and if not then you haven’t faced a Sagat player. I read something saying that no sagat made it to the evo 09 finals(which is true) but if Mago was there then we would be watching Mago vs Daigo in the Evo 09 finals instead of Jwong.

He IS the best in the game, but not overpowered.

Characters can beat him. It’s not like 3s where all you saw was Ken, Yun, Chun all day.

Look at Oogosho. Used Rufus against Mago (and Sagat “counters” Rufus) and beat him at SBO.

Overpowered is:
3s Chun
Mag/Storm/Sent/Cable
5.0 Steve
T4 Jin

so on and so forth.

get what im saying?

Oh and speculation threads are dumb imo.

[O.Red]

Once again READ my post before making accusations… Gouki DOES needs improvement and that my friend ain’t even an argument. Second a level 2 focus attack into a Rd is hardly a combo and if you consider that a combo then WOW.

And talk about “put a little more thought into your posts, sir.” then I suggest you do the same…For you can’t say Akuma does not need improvement then turn around and write “should for the most part be left as is.” Akuma does needs improvement like a faster recovery on his sanku, a better combo into his “new” ultra instead of your so called “level 2 FA into a RD”(and other’s more). BTW Blanka ultra does more damage to certain characters than Gouki’s Ultra and if you read my post(which I seriously doubt it) I wrote “certain characters”…

All in all if you think Akuma doesn’t need to be tweaked or fix in some way or another then you obviously don’t play SFIv because even the best Akuma players will agree that he does needs some “improvements” in certain sections of his moves whether is recovery or balance in certain places.

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**Nobodies saying he doesn’t need improvements, but he most certainly doesn’t need to be able to combo into SGS, and that’ll most likely be the case for his second Ultra as well. (unless its a fireball or something)

And Akuma has nothing to worry about. Sagat and Ryu are gonna get the bulk of the nerfing,

And lol at people still bitching about Sagat…**

[Champoo]

I’m saying what’s the point?

I’m saying that to be technical, his ultra is tied with Blanka’s for the most powerful. I said this to be technical because you claimed his ultra to be the 2nd most powerful.

[NeREMIXED]

**Nobodies saying he doesn’t need improvements, but he most certainly doesn’t need to be able to combo into SGS, and that’ll most likely be the case for his second Ultra as well. (unless its a fireball or something)

And Akuma has nothing to worry about. Sagat and Ryu are gonna get the bulk of the nerfing,

And lol at people still bitching about Sagat…**

I’m saying he doesnt need improvements.

It would just make him too strong.

[O.Red]

**Fuck it, heres my submission:

It won’t make sense storyline wise (does Capcom care?) but make Kongou Kokuretsuzan his second Ultra.

-Give it the same start up as Viper’s Ultra (with wider range obviously)

-Can juggle off a FADC (DP—>FADC—>:d::d::d::3p:)

-To compensate for the Ultra setup, it has to do less damage than SGS (I don’t know point damage for SF4 so I can’t give a gauge)**

[AirPhforce]

**Fuck it, heres my submission:

It won’t make sense storyline wise (does Capcom care?) but make Kongou Kokuretsuzan his second Ultra.

-Give it the same start up as Viper’s Ultra (with wider range obviously)

-Can juggle off a FADC (DP—>FADC—>:d::d::d::3p:)

-To compensate for the Ultra setup, it has to do less damage than SGS (I don’t know point damage for SF4 so I can’t give a gauge)**

Typing in bold makes me important!

Also, there is little point to make comparative/balance ideas at this point, as they are all based in the wrong frame of reference, that being how good would it be NOW with the other characters as they are NOW. A better way is to simply throw out general ideas based on things he has in other games, all the while keeping in mind that SSFIV will be a very very different game balance wise.

I say this because an ultra Akuma can combo into would break him in SSFIV, but in Super, who knows?

[O.Red]

Typing in bold makes me important!

Also, there is little point to make comparative/balance ideas at this point, as they are all based in the wrong frame of reference, that being how good would it be NOW with the other characters as they are NOW. A better way is to simply throw out general ideas based on things he has in other games, all the while keeping in mind that SSFIV will be a very very different game balance wise.

I say this because an ultra Akuma can combo into would break him in SSFIV, but in Super, who knows?

**I know, but its still fun.

And at people STILL bitching about me typing in bold…**

[RaveMachine]

Welp

[AirPhforce]

**I know, but its still fun.

And at people STILL bitching about me typing in bold…**

It is fun, I was referring more to the “no, that’s overpowered” mindset.

Like, how could they possibly know whats OP in a game with 20% of the characters not even announced, not to mention all changes to existing characters (like Sagat’s s. rh breaking armor, crushing block, and automatically linking into his ultra on hit).

[darkfroggy]

First of all since your a Gouki player you should already know that the SGS is Gouki’s most devastation move NOT Misogi. Second Gouki is the ONLY player in SFIV that you CAN"T combo into his ultra.

Oh really? Looks like someone doesn’t play SFIV much.

[System_1]

i would like for his d+mk divekick made available earlier in the jump, it feels to floaty and weird in this game.

[AirPhforce]

i would like for his d+mk divekick made available earlier in the jump, it feels to floaty and weird in this game.

Rufus would sue for copyright violations.

[SSblanka]

able to hurricane kick or air hadoken off a demon flip.

[link123a]

i understand his life problem, cause he’s always had that, so i wouldn’t really touch that

but akuma needs to become the beast he was back in the cvs2 / 3rd strike days

gotta give him his fireball super back, and make his teleport a bit safer ,imo

nowadays hes more “run , spam fireballs , hit sick ass 10 hit combos , but hope to god not to get hit more than 3 times” akuma

compared to has old gameplay which was “throwing fireballs isn’t a must, cause my combos and sick specials keep my enemy’s black and blue, and you better hope i dont catch you with the instant hell murder”

gameplay , anyways, just hope he starts to play liek his old self

[System_1]

Rufus would sue for copyright violations.

Dont get me wrong i didnt mean like rufus/yun/yangs divekicks, more like his own 3s divekick.

[DHEvil]

I would also like to see Akumas’ normal dive move made more useful. I hardly ever see it being used as of now.

[SimpleKiss]

Dont get me wrong i didnt mean like rufus/yun/yangs divekicks, more like his own 3s divekick.

He already has his 3s dive kick.

:r: :d: :df: :k:

It’s just slower (but it’s just as good, if not better than 3s because of all the mix-ups it provides.)

[Mr.Basara]

i understand his life problem, cause he’s always had that, so i wouldn’t really touch that

but akuma needs to become the beast he was back in the cvs2 / 3rd strike days

gotta give him his fireball super back, and make his teleport a bit safer ,imo

nowadays hes more “run , spam fireballs , hit sick ass 10 hit combos , but hope to god not to get hit more than 3 times” akuma

compared to has old gameplay which was “throwing fireballs isn’t a must, cause my combos and sick specials keep my enemy’s black and blue, and you better hope i dont catch you with the instant hell murder”

gameplay , anyways, just hope he starts to play liek his old self

Wait… The best teleport needs to be better? I don’t get it…

I would love to see a return of the 3s “Rush that shit down!” Akuma. I don’t know how they’d do it, but it would be welcomed if they did. However, I don’t want them to give him more runaway tools or improve the runaway/ keepaway tools he already has.

He’s already top tier (if not for shitty stamina, he’d easily be better than Sagat and Ryu), since he’s pretty much untouchable by anyone who has to fight up close. He doesn’t even have to deal with mix ups, since he can pretty much teleport for free.

If Akuma get’s any buffs, I would say give him a comboable ultra. That at least keeps him from having something else to strengthen his keep away game.