SSF4 AE Zangief Changes, Videos, Match-up Discussion

They’ll make him worse for the third time but I’m still maining him. I’m a glutton for punishment I guess. Scrubs bitched about lariat, cr.lk’s, etc in vanilla so they nerfed them. They still bitched about him in super so they nerfed him. What are the scrubs bitching about now in ae? The new spd range? U2? Shitty ex.gh? What more can they do to him? Maybe make ex.gh -30 on block? Give him 900 health? Take away ppp lariat and only make him have kkk? Should be interesting to say the least.

Any idea if that RF v Vance match was recorded? Curious to see how he played one of the best Sagats in the world.

80% Chance Gief will get nerfed some more for no reason. And when that time comes i’ll stop playing SF4

oh my jed!! Grabs do too much dmg, but Zangief is to weak without it. Dmg to compensate for lack of tools… Way to go Crapcom!I was hype for changes, but even though Gief in alot of MUS, feels better. He isnt a better character, counterpicks are worse now than ever before.

Sagat vs. Zangief 8-2(Real talk, hands down, just sayin, my pad broke and win a major before you talk)

Chun li vs. Zangief 7-3 (whatcha gonna do?)

Guile vs. Zangief 6.5-3.5

Dhalsim vs. Zangief 6.5-3.5

Fei Long vs. Zangief 6.5-3.5

I dont think anyone complained about zangief cr lk in vanilla
but they nerfed that, and they didnt say anthing about this huge nerf.

without 3f cr lk, and ex hand KD, the chunli matchup is so brutal now, definitely one of the worst matchup in the game. along with akuma, seth, sagat.

If they gonna rebalance , I really hope he get back ex KD and 3frame cr lk,
and zangief’s combo damage output is too low, he need 30 cr lp and 140 ex hand damage.
his bnb combo doing only around 160 damage is pretty much ridiculous, that’s making the close range guessing game never truly in his favour.

I dont think they will nerf gief, he is perfectly balanced now.

Veggey I agree on your matchups except guile, I feel it´s slight advantage for guile now maybe 5.5-4.5 I play this matchup a lot since super and now it just feels 10 times better, if he didnt´t get KD from booms it would be retarded but we are lucky.

Akuma is impossible to beat consistently also, on par with sagat.

Agreed on Akuma. This weekend was pretty solid evidence of that. Flash and I both got mauled by Tokido, that matchup is ass. I talked to Tokido about it afterwards and he basically said that if he plays that matchup correctly it’s nigh impossible for Gief to win.

I dont think you can call zangief “perfectly balanced” when he has tons of impossible matchups which are pretty much the worst matchups in the entire game.

Well, he is a character polarized by design so it’s very hard to change that…I’s been like that forever. Maybe some improvements for his terrible matchups could be done but he is always going to have them.

Akuma is not impossible…honestly I just choked I let all the negative shit people were telling me about the match up get into my head the match is 6-4 Akuma at worst its not impossible. I was going through a lot of shit at Evo gaming and non related shit I wasn’t prepared for the finals that day I also didn’t expect a person of his caliber to me a scrub and backdash every single time which was my mistake for letting that happen which is fine he got away with it good shit to him but it wont happen next time. I am gonna be writing a blog about my experience at Evo against all the international players I played a long set with just about every single one of them be on the look out on Option-Select.com

Your match up charts are hella skewed btw

PS - to the idiot who was bashing me telling me I didn’t know shit about gief because I had just picked it up 2 months ago…hold that shit

They nerfed that from vanilla because they felt he was a heavy hitter instead of a grappler yet brought in T.Hawk who can hit Gief pretty damn hard :/. He needs an armor breaker he is the only “grappler” without one.

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FlashMetroid - I really enjoyed watching all your matches, I love watching 'Gief do work, I wish I could play him like that!

the only idiot is the one who pick zangief vs poonkgo seth and tokido akuma , and get raped while he can play viper.and he still thinks he can beat tokido akuma with zangief next time. LOL
you know what, tokido almost never lose to top zangief players since vanilla, almost.
you know what others in Asia said about him ??
they said when he play zangief he played like a total scrub.even his viper is better than his zangief.

^ yeah because your credentials are so impressive who are you again.

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Any player that takes a character that far into EVO is not a scrub in any sense of the word. Troll away if you wish, but your comments are falling on deaf ears. Thanks for wasting your time though XD

you think all top players in the world went to evo??
LOL, like poonkgo , fuudo never went to evo before.
one thing is certain if you showed up in Asia’s arade, pretty much a lot of random players can kick you ass whose name you never heard of.

I picked Zangief because he is my character and I have no real akuma experience so I wanted to see what it was gonna be like it was and I picked up a few things but didn’t have 20 minutes to test it in between matches and I realized I couldn’t win at that moment in time so I made the logical choice which was to change. You aren’t the ambassador of Asia I am willing to bet that all those players you dick ride and name drop all the time don’t even know you all I can really say is stay free you are officially not worth my time anymore. I am a Gief player and now youre talking about my biggest flaw as the Gief that got top 8 at the biggest tournament ever was that I didn’t play a different character lol so dumb.

Oh, dont be a motherfucker like that.
you are the one attacked me first every time , and now you pretend "not worth anymoe"
LOL,
everyone in Asia think your play is very scrubby, so stay free.and believe me, I didnt say anything about you in these forums.
evo is a basically American event, fair enough.only a handful of Asia player attended, yet they got 5 out of top 8. you can indulge yourself in your elite player dream, because you are lucky, you didnt run into any good player during your early evo plays, and when you met them later, you get raped.
but you are just nobody outside USA,

Good shit to sswyu for trolling -
@Flashmetroid I did not have you in my top 8 but You did your thing. Deff made a statement with your gief ! Good shit and ill be lookin for ward to your blog.

Akuma is not a 6-4 flash, I can´t agree on that with you. He is the matchup I know the most with zangief and I can say pretty convincently it´s a 3-7. Congrats on your top 8 on EVO tho, hope to see more of you in the future and keep the good work!

I really wish the brackets played out differently and I would of faced a Yun/Fei instead of Akuma/Seth so I could make you eat those words oh well maybe next year