What? At Revelations I talked with Vangief, the only really notable Zangief player in the entire USA in the post-Vanilla era, and he said Zangief is worse but he’s not gonna learn a new character because he already feels so invested in Gief. And then FChamp and Ricky, who have more experience against top level Gief than any other players in the country, chimed in to say they think Gief is bad now.
This is why i love ultradavid lol, he’s always around when you need him lol. just like i said… ah it feels good to be right lol
i LOVE HOW I TRIED TO CHANGE THE SUBJECT TO SOMETHING BETTER AND THE SAME PEOPLE THAT WERE COMPLAINING IS THE SAME PEOPLE THAT CONTINUED THE ARGUING …GOT TO LOVE HYPOCRITES
I think Gief is a little worse overall. The no-knockdown on GH hurt bad. But he did get some buffs too (which I’m loving), so he’s worse, but not much worse. If someone was good enough to Top 8 in a tourny with him in Super, then they’re probably also good enough (or close to it) to Top 8 with him in AE. Maybe the knockdown WAS too good in Super, maybe that’s why they took it away…but that’s also why he’s a little worse now.
And damn…he’s so cool.
No its just 1+0 instead of like Giefs 0+1. Same frames but now jumpable…with a shitter execution requirement IMO (2x HCB)
By the way, if Honda and Guile were on the same team, they’d be called team NERF
you know what hypocrites are good at.
they say he is better xxxx. I said no not like that, cause…
they say you crying too much,pathetic scrub he is better xxxx, I feel… I said not like that. top players…
they say you crying bitch, idiot, he is better xxxx,I feel… I said not like that. video shows…
they say you trolling bitch, should ban you, he is better xxx., I feel… I said …odds shows…
LOL that’s basically their logic,they have the right to say how they feel, you cannot respond otherwise. or your are crying idiot, trolling. what ever. and they blatantly lie about everything, shameless.
Can we please stop this childish back and forth? Arguing about it ain’t gonna change shit, whether or not gief is worse now is completely irrelevant, if you wanna keep playing gief, then put all that argumentative energy towards learning how to deal with everyone now, and if you think he is too garbage now then please go learn someone else and leave this threads in peace.
On a separate note, how do you guys deal with the oni match-up? Im still trying to figure out how to deal with his jumping slash move thingy, it seems to beat the lariat clean, and the ex version beats backdashes. Ill try and ex piledriver next time we play, but how do you guys deal with it? And how do y’all deal with the overall match-up in general?
I think you should leave this thread in peace, this thread is for that discussion.
if you looking for matchup info , go to the matchup thread. that’s the thread you should read, not this.
First of all the title of this thread is “AE Changes/Videos/Match-ups discussions”, so I think I can talk about match-ups in here, secondly my point was not that we shouldn’t discuss his changes, quite the contrary, had you read my entire post you would have seen the part where i said put all your energy into learning how to deal with everyone now. To translate for you, I meant lets put our energy into discussing how we are going to deal with this new gief relative to all the other characters in arcade edition. We can argue about whether or not he is better for days, we can complain to the high heavens about capcom nerfing gief, but until they announce a balance patch all this “discussion” is going to lead to didly squat. But if you took offense to me telling you what to do, then I apologize, please continue complaining about him, whatever helps you get by I guess. If anyone else is willing to answer my question ill greatly appreciate it.
the original title is " is zangief better/ worse overall in AE?"
that’s the one,
OP came after 16 pages and change that title for no reason, but it didnt affect the content of this tread.
So let a thread serve its own purpose, if you want MU talk, go to MU threads.
this thread should be concluded with what it should be.
I am happy to let this threads ends here, Since the hypocrites already exposed.And the conclusion is very obvious here.
Sswyu you are the biggest hypocrite here you go around I don’t do personal attacks then call everyone idiots and scrubs who think Gief is remotely better that is beyond idiocy quit living in the past and move on and actually you know be helpful.
Edit: Also all you post is videos of Gief losing and call them free to this and that and some matches I put up some where Gief ends up winning and what do you say oh he won because he’s a scrub or naw that doesn’t mean anything there’s two sides to everything and you have chosen yours hence where we say you continue to whine due to the fact you just keep bringing the shit up instead of finding ways of making this version of Gief better despite his nerf/buff whatever.
Edit2: Also I’m done with this so moving on.
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lol, yeah, you posted some video gief wining
so what
like the previous one
I posted a video showing zangitan lost to oni 3 in a row
you posted one showing he won 1 match
so what?? I am not saying that’s 0:10 matchup
you understand???
that’s just enough to show the actual statistic of the matchup.
In which post I attack people first and call them idiots.
find out . or shut the fuck up.
hypocrites are those like flashmetroid and MR suplex, they pretend to be tiredof the debating,and say it should end but what he did suddenly jumped out and attacking me, is that the move to ease the shit talk.??
typical style.
and you , are also a typcial hypocrite.
ok… how do guys keep rose from backdashing, i played a very good rose last night but and i could not stop him from back dashing after ex hand… it’s like she’s completely invincible during her backdash .
for example…i would do crlp os sweep boom get the knock down then i would do crlk crlp stlk ex hand then he would either jump back jhp which if i wasn’t walking and blocking it would hit me or back dash when i tried did get ex hand, he would back dash again. i need to post up the videos just so you guys can see but yeah overall i got really really frustrated with the mu and that’s what killed me.
chunli and rose are backdashing whore, it just sometimes you know they are about to backdash, but your green hand will still whiff.
also I think os sweep only works in point blank. so it’s not very efficient after ex hand hit.
Have you tried st. mp and st. rh? Just throwing out ideas, Im not a very good gief in general so excuse me if these are ridiculous suggestions.
st mp st rh of course would not work, if you are close the most reliable way is ex hand, if you are like after 3 jabs blocked distance, pretty much nothing you can do.
If they keep doing it try to corner them with it most Rose players should go into a pattern of sorts.
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Like sswyu said, if you hit EX hand from a certain distance, there’s nothing you can do. Instead of EX hand to catch the 2nd backdash, maybe try dash forward xx LP SPD. At least then you reset the distance. But yea, post those vids.