SSF4 AE Zangief Changes, Videos, Match-up Discussion

north america hours ?? LOL
it’s night in Asia, how ignorant you are. LOL

It’s nothing personal I just want to see some vids of the guy talking shit about me and other players post some vids if he feels the need to do that. Who is sswyu and where is he from?

nothing personal??
you change my words and put it in your signature,
you called this nothing personal??

I never attack people first, but when someone attack me, I always fight back.

Just post some vids. Let me know where you are from and who you play vs and it’s off. I doubt you can do that.

someone wont let go if no video
then fine, i recorded a full set tick 720 and walk 720 . for my convenience, it’s recored using fraps on pc.
tick throw is all the same in all versions, so it doesnt matter.

6 tick 720 in a row, all variations included.
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I?know it’s basic skill, after inspired by Vance ,every beginner zangief should have mastered that by now.
but sadly, you wont see any of these in Bp amaco’s expert videos, LOL.

Chief I currently don’t go to arcades I will try to hit them up during the summer when work slows down haven’t been able to lately.

I play online :frowning: It’s all I got (for now)
This is getting silly dude just put a vid of your Zangief against someone to end this simple as that I’m also curious as to where you are from and who exactly have you played.

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Wow training mode your good a pulling tick ultras playing vs the computer. Just post a vid of you playing someone decent online not hard. Where are you from? Who do you play vs? online only fine just say that.

I remember this guy. He’s the one who used to tell me exgh should only be used in combos back in vanilla.

Those aren’t tachi-720s, those are buffered 720s. And I JUST had a discussion the the Zangief Q&A where I determined those aren’t safe. I’m not saying I’m a great player, if fact I’m saying the opposite - that I’m a newbie and learning. And a newbie determined that video of your’s doesn’t hold up in a real match. Can we stop we the personal stuff on all accounts now?

So I ask again, any news on Zangief in AE? Anything we’ve determined that’s different from what Capcom has announced, or in addition to the changes that we know about?

We have some vids up on the here sadly most of the losing there are wins I have too look for them and post them up.

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@grimmjow316 - thanks, but I’ve been following this thread. I was just trying to get the conversation back to Gief and away from personal stuff, whatever the intention on either party. Seeing if there’s anything we haven’t already discussed here.

I tell you what I’d like to know that I haven’t seen discussed (though I may have missed it). The combo that I’ve seen alot of japanese Gief’s using lately is cr.lp, st.lp, st.lk, ex.GH. (if you don’t start with a jump-in you can add another st.lp, depending on spacing) Is that any different between Super and AE? I’ve just about got it down on Super, but it’s a weird kind of buffer where you’ve buffered the GH before you hit short, and almost plink short and 2xPunch. Seems awkward to be the go-to combo, I figure the frames must be different in AE. Or maybe people have just gotten sick of dropping cr.lk x 3 and moved on.

From what I’ve been hearing no changes on his normals I need to get s.mp, s.lk to ex hand that bison match it was sick how fast he pulled it off.

Edit: I would take that first part with a grain of salt if any one has played AE they can answer it.

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You’ll note that these are SF4 vids as well if you look at the revenge meters. Not Super, despite the costume.

But I’d let it go BP. I already fell victim to the nonsense. He’s just claiming another victim.

LOL, you two are the ones started attacking me personally, and now you call youself victims??
ye, only you can attack people, anyone fighting back make you a victim automatically, LOL
anything more shameless than that??

and I KNOW noob zangief like you can not do what I did in the video, that’s beginner’s skill, a level ahead of you.
dont make excuse of what sf4 or something like that, that skill in all the same in all versions.
dont need to be salty about that. I am sure you will get that finally in the next decade.

Just drop it already it’s getting annoying especially with the whole dur your a noob crap.

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I hate to feed the trolls, I really do, but this one I couldn’t help. Your video of walk-up 720s included very few actual tachi-720s, and if I had to guess, I’d say they happened by accident when you waited too long for the hitstun to go away while holding forward. This is an actual, intention psuedo-tachi-720 (psuedo because it’s not a real walkup, it’s still buffered into a standing short, unlike the real walking 720s that Hayao does on occasion). And a TKU2, just for lolz. I did this in about 15 minutes, and BP Amoco can kick my ass. I know he can, because he did on Live, many moons ago (I’m down for a rematch man, I’m better now, but still not as good as you) and had the decency to give me some pointers after bodying me.

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Did you ever think that he might not do tachi-FABs because…I dunno, it’s not freaking safe!?? Hayao gets away with it because he’s gdlk and reads when his opponents aren’t going to jump and you STILL don’t see him do it that often, because it’s usually a bad thing to do. Even if you can do it with 100% accuracy, it’s too easy to jump out of or counter. You’ve got to know that you’re opponent is going to do something stupid or slow and THEN nail a freaking hard motion. The first two “tick 720’s” you did don’t count man, every character in the game has a move that will eat that for lunch. This ain’t Super Turbo.

basically, you have no idea of what walking 720 is, of course it’s walking 720
pure standing 720 like in 3s not practical in 4, make hayao example is just ridiculous.
every grounded 720 needs some buffer in 4,
just like all vangief did in his videos, How can you say that’s useless.

ye, sure 720 not safe , just like every tick spd, they have moves to beat you.
that’s only the tool to catch someone unexpectedly sometimes, but it works sometimes and especially at some critical moment

it’s walking because after 3 or 2 attacks, you are out of range, walk forward a bit and you are in the range again.
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take a close look, this time after 3 cr lk , so more noticeable.

if it’s a whiffed cr lk ultra, that’s diffierent execution, ye, that’s not walking just like the lst one I did in the first video.

The only normal thats been change is st. hp from eventhubs, which I don’t use. (Haven’t tested it at my local arcade). Other than that, his normals feel the same. As far as if he’s better/worse, imo I think its in the middle. I know the no kd on exgh is a bummer (I feel that you have to do cr. lk 3~4 xx exgh to get the most out of one bar), but the increased range on lp spd is amazing. I posted a couple a videos while back on the video thread. I’ll post them here again =].

1st Day AE =]
Justin.tv - iplaywinner - Recorded Matches: SSF4: AE at MGL Matches start at 5:00 and end at 20:00

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I got way greedy with the exhands at the end and I lost.

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Against my friend back in my hometown, wanted to end 2nd round quick = 2 hour wait =[

[media=youtube]AFJZ1CXuDa8[/media] Poor yun, even though I won, Yun hits like a truck.

I wish I could record more matches, but I don’t have a cam recorder. Don’t want to use my phone because of shitty quality, but I go to the arcade and play AE alot.

i mean, honestly man, there’s everyone against him but he’s providing matches that alot of giefs on here are indeed bad. Sswyu maybe a bit harsh and insensitive but if anything that a person say’s isn’t true about you then why even get mad? i know he’s not trolling but i think the people responding to him, even though it was originally supposed to be him and weaponsleft is asking for them to be exposed. We all have good matches and bad matches, but what determines how respectable a player is, is when they play the match up, adjusting to player, punishing the player for making mistakes and not taking risk that they know is horrible. ?This game has been out for 3yrs and if you still drop cr.lp st.lk combos then you have a problem… OFFLINE ONLY… ONLINE combo consistency only counts when they have a 4 bar connect with trace amounts lag, to the point it won’t affect their gameplay that much.

bp is the best gief ever