That is the problem with those changes…
They are forcing us with changes that not all of us agree with. I dont care for Yun and Yang and i am hating ALL the changes they are making.
I hope this patch is charged so i can play the version of the game that i like.
“Wake up” Activate Orbs Orb one hits cr. hp spiral orb 2 hits soul throw.
500 damage.
k. Low damage, I get it.
She needs nothing new, just a little nerf to the ultra 
You can. Play offline. The end. Other than that, stop bitching and deal with it, or take back the damn game, and start playing Alpha again by yourself.
So?
Her damage output overall is one of the lowest. That shows in the tier list.
El furte can take it out that with ultra 2 alone, and i dont think it shbould be nerfed also.
Nobody needs to be nerfed. Only some characters need to be buffed.
Again, what’s the point of hoping for that? It’s Capcom. Oh wait, that’s right, people like wasting their time.
I can bitch all that i want.
I bought i game that i already love as it is and i dont want any nerfs. Not only me but the majority of the community are hating the changes…
The question is. Why the changes?
The game is FINE AS IT IS ( bar hakan makoto guy and gen)
I’M NOT ARGUING THAT!!! The POINT I’m trying to make is, Capcom has shown time and again, they are going to completely IGNORE US. So instead of incessantly whining about it, either just deal with it, or man up like no one on SRK ever does, and get rid of the game as a statement, a statement that will never be heard.
What you’re saying is that since she’s not at the top of the list, her damage output is low? GTFO, she’s fine.
And since her overall damage output is supposedly “low” she needs to have a FREE wake up ultra that does more than 500 damage?
Orbs are OP.
Please, see your way out.
Sorry i disagree with you. There a lot of stuff that are FREE in this game. There is nothing more free than a mashaed Shoryuken between links to FADC to ultra, and i dont think should be excluded too…El furte ultra 2 is free.
If we take out everything that is slighty strong in this game all that will remain will be a boring game.
Rose is fine as she is including her ( NOT OVERPOWERED ) ultra 2.
lol.
Either
lol @ El Fuerte’s U2 being free.
I wanna see you hit U2 on me. Rose’s close st. mk just irks out of that. It’s one of those things you have to watch out for, but it isn’t free.
Rose does have an overpowered U2. Anything that puts you in an advantageous position 100% of the time is broken, sir.
I’d agree with you if it was abuseable but you can’t spam U2. I don’t think anything is wrong with it.
Obviously Arturo winning Guard Crush 7 was way to much for the devs to handle.
Hey, you can’t spam safe Shoryu’s either, so I don’t see your point.
i thought this thread was for talking about our opinions on changes that may or may not happen in a patch that who knows when will come to consoles…um no?
I’m more interested in what other changes will be made to other characters. I think that gives a better balance picture of where Rose sits against others.
What I’m not interested in seeing is the same 5-6 characters dominate even more. I’ve been surprised in the past, so who knows, maybe these changes are for the better?
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maybe I’m a bit retarded and just not a good player at all, but confirming orbs into cr.HP at wake-up is actually hard to do for me due to the many scenarios that may ensue.
These scenarios made me believe that cr.hp to any combo was not a good idea after activation outside of a combo. I whiff and die to often due to chaos. If you hit it, imo, you deserved the damage.
I choose cr. mp upon confirmation just to be safe. Using that, the damage aint that great. Btw, to get 500 you need a lot more than cr.HP xx drill, cause scaling that would do 240+100+100 without scaling.
The combo you mention; do you land that often? Really?
haha good shit on the posts, Rose.
Guy that was saying EX moves and throws and stuff can go through U2: yeah, if you sit there and let them, they can blow through an orb with an invincible move. If you block, they get hit by another orb or you can punish them for doing that. If someone manages to command throw you out of the move, he worked for it and had a good read on you.
Spark FADC > U2 combos do really nice damage. You can’t really say it has low damage output when the move makes so many combos possible. It’s a move you can START combos with, whereas all the other ultras end combos and suffer scaling. If SS hits, you don’t have to spend any meter to attempt a safe half life combo. If you were Ryu or someone with DP FADC > ultra, you’d have to be spending 50% meter (plus ultra) to get that.
Know your frame data. Sometimes, you block after your ultra, you still get a ton of damage.
I hit spiral+u2 soul throw a lot because it works on half the cast.
You can see them doing something on the animation. I could usually tell if I need to block the attack or do my cr. hp spiral.
Nonetheless, I get atleast 120 off the first orb and once again am put in an advantageous position for more damage.
Yet, when I meet roses, and see higher-level Rose vids, those occurrences of high-damage Ultra are quite rare. Making me conclude that it’s not all that OP than some here say it is.
And euh, filipin0man, you will be hard pressed to find anyone with more theoretical knowledge about Rose than me. Really. Quit the arrogant attitude.
If there’s anything you can say about orbs it’s that it’s hard to pin down due to randomness. Possible that high-level players can make decisions much better judging the frames during freeze and the frames after initial hit, but it’s very hard against a cast of 35 chars who react differently. You CAN get high damage out of oit, we’ve seen the combo vids, but I haven’t seen it yet in matches.
Please point me to them.
You understand why? This Ultra is not only for the high damage, but it’s the reason why it gives you the advantageous position from anywhere you do it from.
When you activate it and they back away, you have 2 orbs that follow you around and you’re off the ground, which puts you in a position where Rose shines.
Sure you always have your easy 400-500 damage combos that you do get, depending on how respectful your opponent is to you, but it’s mainly used for wake up, and the whole point is that the ultra should not just stop offense like that.
If you don’t understand where I’m getting at, then that’s cool. But having the ability to do MASSIVE damage and having the ability to have them respect you with no downfall when you activate it is pretty damn broken.
We can theory fight all day if you would like, still doesn’t make the ultra any less broken.
If it was broken the way you said, we should’ve seen results by now. We’ve seen Sabin using footsies U1 to win a tournament, and Luffy winning with footsies and excellent reading from a Ryu.
The list would be very different if we were talking about Sagat SF4 U1