SSF4 AE: Revenge of the Orbs

i love titties so im staying with rose.

After playing AE a bit, there are a few characters I still use U2 with- the ones that I can’t really think of anything that I can anticipate or block and punish using U1. 2 come to mind off the top of my head:

Cody- none of his moves are really slow enough to react to without guessing, and his jump arc seems a bit too low for me. Seems like whoever gets the most counterhit pokes and random knockdowns wins. ex Bingo/ex spiral go back and forth beating pokes or becoming safe only with 3 meters, I use U2 as pressure after a knockdown for some damage to edge out wins- but I think if I could reliably jump in OS U1 it might be a better choice.

Fuerte- Since he can control his air movement so easily, I don’t see any real openings for U1 besides comboing into it. I think he’s either all over you with 33/66 guessing games or full screen waiting for a mistake, so there are plenty of safe times to activate to give you a good chance to corner him. Or there’s no safe time and you just got perfected, regardless of your ultra.

Opinions on these or other specific matchups? This is off the assumption that the opinion isn’t “U1 is always better if you can combo it.”

I like U2 against every Shoto, Guile, etc.

Ask me about a specific match up and I can consider it more. I actually like U1 against Cody in all cases, even in Super >.>

i also still use u2 against turtlish characters like ryu, guile. haven’t faced good dictators yet, but i guess you’ll need u2 to break their shell.

U2 works well against Bison in AE, although it’s a tougher match-up for her now imo.

I’m telling you guys right now, you better master the u2 setup. Besides vs my friends who know it crosses up, it has pretty much a 100 percent success rate when i hit the timing. It’s the only reason I’m even considering staying with Rose.

Pros:
-easy to pull off (backthrow/sweep)
-still a 50/50 mixup even if you mess up
-beats reversals CLEAN
-easy to hit confirm into combo or a free ST after two orbs hit

Cons:
-doesn’t work on everyone
-essentially holding forward beats it if they know you’re going for the crossup
-timing is strict if you want to beat dp’s

who here is tired of hearing shit like “rose is broken” , “U2 is cheap”, and “rose is lame” when u beat them? like i win because I am utilizing footsies and spacing, i mean thats what she does. Other character have bigger bs and are high tier. why the hate on rose? (i went on a streak on PJS and got nothing but hate, more than anyone else)

anyways,
is any 1 discouraged that gootecks and arturo dropped rose in ae? gootecks said on CC that rose has no future in ae. I looked up to them to up my rose game and this is kind of a downer.

I’m not discouraged. I have respect for them, but that just shows that they can’t win without the free wake up.

Which is not the reason why I stuck with Rose in Vanilla, Super, and also AE in the first place.

who cares what they say? If you like her and want to stick with her , then dont drop her because other players are doing it. Just step your game up.

Thank you ShinkuuR; definite words of wisdom :smiley:

lol nicely said

Someone on the forums said something that really made sense concerning rose’s u2(don’t remember who) that went something like this. Capcom would rather nerf Rose’s U2 to please 99 percent of the sf4 community than to keep it as is and please 1 percent of the sf4 community, aka rose players. Whether it’s the correct balance change or not is a different question altogether.

We just have to move on. I’m trying but Yun/Yang are not making it easy for me to do much. SSF4 Yun yang edition is really pointing towards a “if you can’t beat em join em” route for a lot of players.

QFT.

I can’t even tell you the amount of Rose hate I get as well. Either way, she’s meant to frustrate people. If people want to go join the Yun and Yang bandwagon, so be it. It doesn’t matter, nor should anyone care. I’m sticking with Rose in AE.

i love titties so ill keep playing her

I can’t see that many people dropping Ken and Ryu for the twins personally, people will play them obviously but it seems like it does take a bit more technical skill to pull them off well. I’m not saying shotos are easy to play either, don’t want to offend anyone (I’m new), but I can’t see a lot of the usual shower that play it taking the time out of pwning to learn a new character. Anyway, I’m staying where I am, I’m brushing up on U1 and everything.

i’m pretty sure they are joking, and are probably just poking fun at me.

And I’m the one who said that. And it’s true. It’s a correct balance choice but they didn’t balance it correctly honestly.

here is a video i found concerning u2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gC5i3irC9Gw
as you can see the point blank ultra didnt work, so does the nerf on u2 only took out the invincibility so meaty attacks will hit and will you be able to block immediatly after activation?

On another note is this how im supposed to deal with yun or is he more bs than the yun in this video?

This yun is definitely a bad representation. His divekicks are all bad and he doesn’t know correct followup pressure.

You guys can’t be still talking about U2 at this point in that way. :shake: