I was speaking with Ugo on twitter, I have to say Akuma is tough!
also Houzi, finally watched your videos. VERY good shit!
Not sure what to do vs Adon. It seems like all of Adon can do are pretty safe except for rising jaguar, but he can FADC it. Anyone have knowledge about this match up?
Just have tricky but powerful setup.
Sorry for my poor English…
Thanks for the video, but a question, does Adon have to be juggle very low with HK Gekiro? And before the set up, you also whiff a Gekiro. Is it light, medium or heavy kick version?
Yes,need a little bit low
It’s medium gekiro and the melody of the hk gekiro is really tricky.
I prefer plinking method to whiff medium gekiro.
The input window of whiff gekiro is 2frame or gen will eat adons upercut.
升龙的位置要偏低一些，每次打击间隔尽量拉长一些，挥空中升龙时，建议用刷键，保证最快出招，否则容易被adon升龙打。允许的误差就2f.
好吧我試試看，但這招似乎有所高難度及風險性的説。前輩果然是神級。。。
其实也很无奈的对局。 很多地方都是不利的。 这个套路的确难度很大。 哎。。
嗯。。。的确是操作风险很大的招数。
OH NOOOO they are speaking in assassins tongue
haha, he just feel the setup is really difficult and I say Yes，need a lot of pratice.
Can I get some advice on how to go about the Rose matchup. I faced a really good one the other day and all of my normals kept getting stuffed.
Nvm found it. facepalm
Hey guys
A lot of you don’t know, but I’ve been playing Gen since Vanilla and have always dreaded the Akuma matchup. Just recently at NCR, Xian and Infiltration were in the grand finals. Xian played very well against Infiltration, however I did notice something Xian could have done, but didn’t do. Whenever Akuma does jump back air fireball and peak height, Gen can punish that with Ultra 1 correct?
During the grand finals match, I literally went up to Xian and told him he can do that, but he said it’s hard to react to + Infiltration was whiffing normals in the air, baiting the ultra apparently, and I understand that, really. But Infiltration was doing it so high that you can react to it. I personally have had a lot of success punishing that habit from Akuma players on reaction. Later on in the matches, Xian used Super to punish, instead of Ultra. When he had lost the match I tried talking to him again. At this point I know that he’s flustered + all other feelings he’s having. But it really upset me when I was speaking to him. He kept saying how Super was faster than Ultra. Yeah, Super has a faster startup, but Ultra travels not only full screen, but moves faster across the screen.
Can someone watch the match, when it’s posted, and tell me if I’m correct or wrong? You can Ultra Akuma’s jump back fireball, by reaction, if he does it really high. This has been bothering me a whole lot, especially since I feel disrespected that only half the people agree with me. I even asked Laugh to ask Infiltration, Infiltration told Laugh to say this exactly, “Gen players have to commit to punishing jump back fireball, it’s not possible to do it on reaction”.
I watched it and wanted to be there so bad so I could be in his corner to tell him the same thing. I was almost yelling at my tablet. Akuma has a few frames when he lands so it gives you even more time to hit him. Infiltration was doing them way higher than I’ve ever seen him throw them. Xian had so many free chances. But he played everything else to a T.
I was literally yelling him to ultra at the back of the ballroom, some people were like, “It won’t work” wtffffffff
@nubbb i thought about that too while watching the stream. I think your best bet would be to make a video showing that it can be punished on reaction by ultra. From what I saw infiltration kept changing the height of his air fb as well as neutral jumping and normal fb, so it would be tough to decide when he’s truly punishable, unless it really can be done solely on reaction. And i don’t think there was any disrespect on their part lol… xian and infiltration have probably spent time in the lab on that and they genuinely believe that it can’t be punished that way, so any response from them probably wasn’t meant to diminish you as a player or whatever. That being said you could be right and if so that would help out alot in this matchup.
Pretty proud of xian’s play. I really liked him using crane cr.lk to crouch tech, because if infil was slightly out of range it would launch him and he could get a followup mantis cr. fierce or rh. Little things like that really show Xian’s been working on this matchup to make use of any tool he has. On the other hand Infiltration really does abuse some of akuma’s tools. Is there anyway to punish that no recovery demon flip out of the corner? Or to OS his teleport when he has u2?
I also think that when Xian gets the focus stance switch down consistently it’ll help with getting in and minimizing the utility of the air fb. I thought about ex roll or oga, but those are probably too slow/ require charge time so probably not right?
Technically xian is right super starts up faster than ultra 6 frames compared to 11 of ultra. But ultra has more VELOCITY and ALOT more horizontal range. He is not used to that punish that’s all and since it’s grand finals the pressure is high.
After watching the match I must admit I was very close to tears, 80% of air fireballs thrown by infil was ultra punishable ON REACTION! Now I understand your pain Nu, in my experience the only one you cannot punish on reaction is if Akuma is low to the ground and uses the light fireball, if he uses the medium or hard Gen can punish it.
By studying Gen hitbox videos extensively I notice that gen squats a bit lowering his hurtbox during the ultra and with the Velocity it is able to go under air fireballs especially akuma.
From a longgggg time ago. Dunno why the audio is off.
Xian is relatively new to Gen yet though, even if he is the one that can perform his game the best… so I guess it’s understandable if he didn’t knew that.
It’s very hard to apply new knowledge during an actual tournament match, so even if you were yelling at him and was well intentioned, it just doesn’t work like that. He was focused in doing what he knows, not on taking risks with what is unknow to him.
He was already conditioned to respect Infiltrations matchup knowledge, after getting hit by ultra 2 twice when trying to punish his teleport. He may have though that Infil wasn’t stupid enough to throw unsafe fireballs, who knows. Gen players are aways making fun mind games over the lack of knowledge of their opponents, this time it was the other way around.
He’ll probably hit the lab for next time though. If he didn’t already.
That said, I was also screaming at my monitor haha.
Maybe I’m reading that wrong, but Infiltration threw a bunch of unsafe fireballs that even someone with half ass reactions could’ve punished. I realize it’s easy for us to sit on a computer and say these things. But Xian has the ability/skill/reactions to punish the “at jump peak fireballs” He was able to do it with the super in a situation that was far more difficult. In addition, he’s also punished people with Mantis U1 on reaction even after a dash to gain space. From what I took from Nubbbs description of Xians comment when he said that Ultra was slow or what ever, it sounds like Infil got to Xian. If he would’ve taken the advice and not have the mentality that it was unsafe/a bad move etc, he would’ve landed it. The point is think positive not negative. Over-all Xian played amazing. Contrary to what most Gen players argue, I’ve always said Gen was still a solid character even after his changes from Vanilla to Super; further more, he’s even stronger, and some Gen users still try to argue that he’s not viable (or wasn’t before Xian started playing him). I’m glad Gen is getting the recognition he deserves. I just hope that doesn’t hurt some changes I still think he needs. One being the ability to change stances during the round count down.