SRK Tier Discussion OS XII

General Discussion
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Hmm interesting argument. I’ll buy that for a dollar!

Death has been schooled so many times. Mostly by [media=youtube]n3gFIDiBq0E]meddling [.

As for the Sun… really? That has SO many weaknesses and one just happens naturally when it decides to expand then die. Freeze Rays, Creatures that Love Intense Heat [url=http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Magmortar_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29]like a Fire Pokemon](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uaGxhhs4zA[/media) and [media=youtube]ou3TukauccM[/media].

Now don’t be nominating freaking black holes now… :mad:

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Also, I think I’m ready to put Mr. Magoo up to a vote, for any active S.H.I.T. members.

Of course my vote is yes.

…seriously.

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I’m pretty sure Bowling Pin was one of the original contributors in the first tier thread. Iirc S.H.I.T was formed in much later threads by thurst?, but Carpet Lint, Azrael, and Bowling Pin being the true founders of the Tier institution. Man that first thread was all full of win…

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Schrödinger’s cat

My entry:

Schrödinger’s cat

Schrödinger’s cat is used to help in the discussion on quantum mechanics. The debate is that Schrödinger’s cat is in a box sealed from ALL outside forces. No outside force can influence the cat or the contents within the box. The subject at hand is that we do not know if the cat is alive or dead until the box is open, thus agreeing that Schrödinger’s cat is alive and dead at the same time.

Does “the dip” apply to Schrödinger’s cat?

No.

How can Schrödinger’s cat defeat Prep-time Batman?

The box that Schrödinger’s cat is sealed in is has an infinite number of random events/powers occurring until the box is opened. Since Schrödinger’s cat is accepted as being alive and dead, then we must accept that is doing everything and not doing everything at the same exact time. Schrödinger’s cat IS building/not-building the ultimate weapon to get rid of Prep-time Batman at the same time. Batman cannot prep for something he cannot see or gain any info on. For all that matters, Schrödinger’s cat is harnessing the powers of Jack Bauer and MacGuyver while singing the Mentos song at the same time.

But Schrödinger’s cat is dead.

And alive and doing EVERYTHING at the same time. It must be doing everything, the contents within the box are unknown until the box is opened.

Prep-time Batman could just not open the box.

However, Schrödinger’s cat is doing everything and anything at the same time. Schrödinger’s cat IS teleporting in and out of the box to another location that is unseen by Batman. The reasoning is that Schrödinger’s cat must be doing everything at the same time, including singing the Mentos song, raging with Bauer chaos, and building the ultimate weapon/nullifying tool with MacGuyver skills. It can be added that Schrödinger’s cat is also abusing Batman’s prep-time abilities aswell.

In the case the box is not opened by Batman, queue in Pandora’s Box. Some stupid woman will open it. (this is not stance against anti-pussy. Schrödinger’s cat can exist without women, this is just yet another fail safe.)

Hah, the box was opened and Schrödinger’s cat was dead.

Doesn’t matter, once the box is closed the process is started again. Schrödinger’s cat is alive, dead and doing everything at the same time once again. However this argument is based on a fixed outcome. The box has not been opened yet and still contains the powers of everything, which CAN be unleashed when the box is opened.

But, but, but…

What but’s? Schrödinger’s cat is everything and nothing at the same time. Anything can manifest within the box and that includes Jack Bauer Chaos, MacGuyver Zero-Prep, Mentos song, The King, Spinach Popeye, Walmart Rollback, Prep-Time Batman, etc.

But it is a Fifty-Fifty chance

You think it is, but it isn’t. Since Schrödinger’s cat is doing everything and nothing of everything at the same. However this does not mean Schrödinger’s cat is doing either/or. The everything and nothing statement means that Schrödinger’s cat can still have the out come of Jack Bauer and Mentos but not MacGuvyer. This sets up for an infinite amount of possibilities. Which renders the chance of doing nothing to be on the slim side.

Okay, but the chance that nothing does…

For the sake of tiering, I’ll take the cat’s chances.

I think that covers it. Wonder how this will play out.

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^I was just thinking of that too, as my 2nd choice. But I was thinking. Can’t the box stay open? Or are we talking only CLOSED BOX Schrödinger’s Cat?

Can I nominate [media=youtube]X21mJh6j9i4&feature=fvw"[/media]? He is omnipresent and automatically foils any plot when you deny his cheese. Only way to get him to not ruin your shit is to accept his cheese, which would be a win for NSNTP Panda. Even if PT Batman tried to stop the production of Panda cheese, that would still be denying it, and would result in Panda foiling his plan. NSNTP Panda clearly doesn’t give a fuck (disconnecting the IV bag while a patient receives intravenous therapy, or ruining, a recently reunited, father and son meal plans), has no care for pussy, and isn’t a black male. Anything that deals with his product ends with him appearing there and getting a win (see converted father at the end of the video). The best thing PT Batman can do in that situation is to not deal with Panda cheese, which wouldn’t even be a fight since he was not summoned.

In the case of PT Batman vs NSNTP Panda? NSNTP wins?

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Thanks, Added Bowling Pin to the FAQ.

…seriously.

EDIT: Also, I’m really intrigued by the Schrödinger’s Cat entry. Tell me more.

EDIT2: I agree that Panda has decent non-give-a-shittance and anti-pussy, but he has no real powers, besides teleportation. What’s he going to do to Batman? Knock over his shopping cart?

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Yes, there are billions of other stars, but what makes the Sun so powerful is that it’s our star. It’s the only star in our Solar System and all of the planets either depend on it for orbit, sustaining life or both.
Also by building a supernova suit and destroying the Sun, Batman would kill the 6+ billion people on Earth who depend on the Sun. Batman is all about not killing unless it is absolutely necessary and I don’t think that sacrificing the lives of all living things on the planet would be a weight he could bear.

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^word. Bruce would be kinda puss if it came to that

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Obviously he would have prepped an escape plan where everyone moves to Alpha Centauri with him.

…seriously.

EDIT: Actually, fuck it. We’ve already learned that the sun can be defeated with koopa shells.

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Can PT Batman have enough rhetoric, government backing, public trust, and funds to convince all of Earth to move their lives to another planet, and destroy the sun for no reason other than his pride?

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[media=youtube]I-lMwxIBmeQ[/media] Batman keeps like a dozen of those things in his utility belt in case he ever has to face a go-kart themed supervillain. He wouldn’t even have to waste a red one on the sun.

…seriously.

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Now that Schrödinger’s cat has consumed my thoughts, I would argue that the box actually never has to open to be fully capable of its powers.

Prep-time Batman would seriously think this over. Schrödinger’s cat is doing everything and nothing at the same time, so would Batman gamble at the chances that Schrödinger’s cat is plotting to destroy the world and everything else that the cat is capable of? With all the amount of prep that Batman could do, he would just concluded that it isn’t worth opening the box, thus allowing Schrödinger’s cat to defeat him even without confrontation.

Batman just wouldn’t go into a fight without fully knowing how to nullify his opponent. Even Batman wouldn’t take a gamble (see every Two-Face encounter, Batman fixes it more often than promoters fixing a boxing match).

As for NSNTP Panda (which btw is an AWESOME commercial, which begs that commercials breed some pretty tough SOBs), does falling for his cheese actually mean a bad thing? If that stuff is disgusting, then I would say he has the edge, but if it is delicious, then isn’t just a for sure win that the panda was there to provide extra encouragement?

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It is still a win for NSNTP Panda. You have succumbed to Panda cheese. Once Panda is denied then he cannot be stopped. All you can do is watch and try to blame someone else. Either way is a win for him, unless you avoid confrontation, just like the Cat.

PT Batman loses twice, in one night, to backing out?

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Him using the shell on the Sun is dependent on him actually having a planet in Alpha Centauri to bring the 6 billion people to. But, it hasn’t been confirmed if there are even any planets at all in the Alpha Centauri system. You’re just assuming that there’s a sustainable planet similar to the Earth there. So if PT Bats scouts out the system and doesn’t find an inhabitable planet, then what? He can’t destroy the Sun. In addition to that, Alpha Centauri A is 1.5 times brighter than our Sun. Bats would be bringing them from our Sun to an even hotter Sun. People can’t even properly protect themselves from sunburn now, imagine how many people would flat out fry to death. So you’re also assuming humans can sustain that heat. If he builds them suits, there’s still no evidence of a moon. So when they’re living on a planet that may or may not even exist and it’s rotating at a speed that none of us can gauge and nightfall occurs, the people may or may not freeze to death. Too many variables.

Also, if he destroys it in the Mario universe the sky still stays bright. But it’s already proven that in Batman’s universe and ours, when the Sun is gone, even with the power of it’s reflection off of the moon onto the Earth, it still gets dark. Also, he doesn’t want to destroy the Sun and have it remain bright, because as I previously stated, he depends on the darkness to be effective.

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I think in the DC Universe Alpha C has planets iirc

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Ok, I thought we were talking about our Alpha Centauri, not DC comics Alpha Centauri. Even so, Rann, the planet quiche is referring to is no longer in Alpha Centauri, it’s in Polaris. Rann was war torn and decimated, so the inhabitants got moved to New Rann. New Rann didn’t have everything needed to be sustainable, so Adam Strange had to scavenge through old Rann just to get things up and running. Knowing that New Rann is still under development, you’re telling me that Batman is just gonna drop 6 billion people onto a planet with insufficient resources?

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

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It doesn’t even have to go that far. Batman can create a cage that would be able to contain the Sun if the stupid thing wanted to go rogue. Seriously, I might as well nominate Hydrogen because that is what the Sun is made out of. Oh you say it isn’t a person? Someone did a painting of his greatness. At any moment he can just sap all the hydrogen from the Sun to kill it dead.

Anyways, I want to put up Mayhem [Allstate Mayhem Guy, Allstate Mayhem] up for a vote to the S.H.I.T council.

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Yes it does, because there are consequences for doing something like that. That’s the reason why quiche brought up the Alpha Centauri argument in the first place. quiche knows, just like everyone else that Batman wouldn’t kill everyone on Earth.

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Schrodinger’s Cat has at least one existence where it is dead. There is also one existence where there is no box, where there is no lid, and the cat is in something that is not a box, such as atop a flight of stairs. As soon as the box is opened and the cat is uncovered, the wave form collapses and the cat dies. If there is an existence where the cat is dead, it has lost. It defeats itself; Prep-time Batman doesn’t have to do anything.

He could also set the box on fire, shoot it into the sun, give it to a crazy cat lady, give it to Koreans, do anything that would affect the box and the Cat at the same time and cut the Gordian Knot of its existence.

Also, it’s pussy. How do you have anti-pussy when you’re a pussy yourself? Since it is pussy, it has a glaring weakness of stairs as well. As a cat, it loses to catnip, dogs, and Bob Barker. It also was a twink Nazi cartoon catboy in Hellsing, which is like a triple word score of failure.

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You are failing to understand that Schrödinger’s cat is both alive and dead at the same time. Since this is accepted, then Schrödinger’s cat is doing everything and anything imaginable at the same time. We do not know what Schrödinger’s cat is up to until the box is open, however that concept of opening box could possibly unleash powers unknown to the curious subject.

This isn’t just a cat, this is Schrödinger’s cat. Schrödinger’s cat is specifically the only version of it kind. The box only serves as a vehicle for Schrödinger’s cat to manifest its powers. However Schrödinger’s cat does not have to use a specific box. Anything to prevent sight from Schrödinger’s cat could be used. You are foreseeing an outcome, you do not know what will happen, you can only assume and assumption is not concrete. Once again Schrödinger’s cat is alive and dead at the same time, being dead is just a status for Schrödinger’s cat. Thus Schrödinger’s cat is able to transcend the normal bounds of life and death.

The point of Schrödinger’s cat is that nothing is able to externally influence its outcome. This allows for Schrödinger’s cat be able to do anything/everything and nothing at the same time.

Is Jack Bauer just a “man?” The answer is no. Jack Bauer is Jack Bauer, he is not bound by the confines of what is considered to be a man or their weaknesses, thus he is allow to be consider his own tier. Schrödinger’s cat is not a pussy. Schrödinger’s cat is not bound by the confines of what is considered to be a pussy in the same way Jack Bauer is not a man. It must be clarified that Schrödinger’s cat must referred to as Schrödinger’s cat. This is because Jack Bauer (and other tiers) are not mere normal version but rather the exception. Which of course is what we are here trying to define, the exceptions to the standard.

Whatever ill fate you believe Schrödinger’s cat is suffering is also experiencing the complete opposite, if you will the positive event.

Also do remind yourself, Schrödinger’s cat is used to illustrate quantum mechanics. Schrödinger’s cat is suppose to be a mind fuck.