Yes. So are weaknesses. A major weakness in any form is pretty much a guarantee that a character isn’t getting into top tier.
…seriously.
EDIT: Fuck Goku. He bleaches his hair like a guido whenever he gets excited, and he’s repeatedly owned by Chi-Chi. Dude’s antipussy isn’t just non-existant, it’s actually in the negative.
The Dip isn’t even a character, or even represented by a character (see Allstate Mayhem). Does this tier discussion allow for non-characters?
If that is the case, shouldn’t Death from the Final Destination series be allowed to enter? So far no one has ever escaped it, just suppress it until the final minutes of the movie.
no way dude, at the end of dbz he just straight up abandons chi chi to go trai uub off in some remote island. he doesn’t give a fuck, he’s always about pwning noobs. i mean he’s even so nice to let them go, or forgive them, or help them in one way or the other, only to get backstabbed, but he STILL pwns them eventually. cause he’s that good.
You know what? Just read this fucking thread. It’s only 6 pages long and Dip has already been thoroughly explained when Muff Daddy asked about it.
…seriously.
He doesn’t abandon Chi-Chi. He ran the fuck away from her because he knows that with her around, he can’t do shit. She’s like kryptonite to him.
…seriously.
i dont wanna read 6 pages to learn what i already know, which is dip is gay
actually come to think about it, goku has multiple live action counterparts, so he’s immune as well. SWEET
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wait a sec
omega viscant = quiche???
Yeah I don’t think the Dip argument is what’s going to keep Goku out of the tiers. The “Anime is Gay,” and “Goku loses to Chi-Chi” arguments are more than enough though.
…seriously.
anime is only gay because its filled with emo metrosexual skinny fagg0ts with long pink hair and girly voices. same reason why japanese RPGs are godawful and western RPGs shit over them for free.
USA dubbed goku is a super buff white guy with a deep manly voice you can’t go wrong. he may have a slight weakness to chi chi… but that’s about it…
are you quiche???
Some of the suggestions I’ve been thinking of have been pretty obvious.
How is the Sun not top tier?
If PT Batman came up with a device to blot out the Sun, he would end up killing himself due to the fact that lack of sunlight would destroy the animal and plant life on Earth. As we all know, Batman hates killing people, so I’m pretty sure he wouldn’t like to kill 6+ billion by destroying the Sun. Anything that depends on the Sun loses to the Sun, point blank period.
Yes.
…seriously.
EDIT: The sun is not alive.
I’m currently putting together a giant Wiki post so people can learn about the history and rules of S.H.I.T. tiering. It’s going to take a while, but it will lay out these rules to be more clear.
fishjie: Goku would fall under this, even if he can avoid the dip (See Dragon Ball Evolution). His weakness? That movie was crap, and Goku isn’t white.
The dip is understandable and works in its intended uses. Consider it a rule, rather than a tier.
/edit: If “alive” is a requirement, then rule out Death from Final Destination.
Geico man’s ability to make fantasy real still has not been denied properly and he will shit on the dip with one question.
Then somebody tell me what is [media=youtube]X6nAvkCn9To#t=4m14s"[/media] then?
EDIT: And this? Two scoops of raisins nigga!
Fair enough. In that case, Batman could kill the sun with a turtle shell, and the sky wouldn’t even go dark.
…seriously.
That might be a good idea for people thinking of nominations, since Mentos isn’t alive either but it’s accepted due to the history. I myself would love to read up on it all one day.
The Sun is a star and stars can die.
Also, the Sun has a life cycle.
It was previously stated in this thread that Mentos is alive, because it is described as being “fresh and full of life” in it’s theme song.
I always thought it meant the person using the Mentos was fresh and full of life. Guess that’s why it would count then.
S.H.I.T. F.A.Q.
What is the S.H.I.T.?
S.H.I.T. stands for “Shoryuken Higher Institute of Tiering”. It is a group of posters who decide what does and does not belong in the “top tier.”
Who are the S.H.I.T. members?
[details=Spoiler]Azrael
Bowling Pin
Carpet Lint
Ender120
Evil Morrigan
givequicheachance (now Omega Viscant)
RandomNigga (now black jesus)
Rioting Soul
Saotome Kaneda
Septimus Prime
Shaft Agent
The Mullah
thurstotherapy (now thurst)
ViciousSLASH[/details]
How do I become a S.H.I.T. member?
The way to join the ranks of the S.H.I.T. are to get a character you introduce and present evidence for accepted into top tier or above.
OK, so what is the current Tier list?
[details=Spoiler]MacBauer Tier
MacBauer
God Tier
Bauer/MacGuyver/Mentos
Top Tier
Rollback Guy
The King?
Kujo Jotaro
From-The-Future-Prep Cable
cr.Fierce
Nutri-Grain Bar Guy
Spinach’d Popeye
"The End" Thanos
God
ST Akuma
Prep-Time Batman
Random Tier
Vin Diesel
Chuck Norris
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Why is INSERT CHARACTER Top Tier?
[spoiler=Prep-Time Batman]Once upon a time on SRK, back when VS threads were still allowed, Batman fanboys would argue to the death that Batman could win pretty much any fight he got into. The basis for this argument was a comic serial in which it was revealed Batman kept files on pretty much everyone in the DC universe and their weaknesses, just in case he ever got into a fight with them. The argument is that if Batman is given the proper time to “prepare”, then with his intellect and vast resources, he can win. Thus, “Prep-Time Batman” was born. Plus, you have to factor in his crazy anti-sprays. I mean, shit, if the guy has a Shark Repellant Bat-Spray…what the fuck doesn’t he have?
Prep-time Batman is different from “regular” Batman in that he is given infinite time to prepare for the encounter. Thus evidence of Batman being defeated doesn’t count against him because he wasn’t given enough time to prepare (obviously).
Prep Time Batman is voiced by Kevin Conroy, comes from the Burtonverse, Nolanverse, Diniverse, and Millerverse, has the improbable equipment from the Adam West series, and the unyielding willpower from the Morrison run. Acknowledging the Morrison stories means Batman himself has new defenses and is more prepared than ever before. It will be much harder now for anyone to match up to, let alone beat him. To recap:
-Batman has developed a new alternate persona in case his mind is tampered with; a backup psyche if you will. The Zur-En-Arrh personality means Batman dresses in a garish yellow/red/purple outfit while running into intricate traps and slaughtering the shit out of dudes within a pixel of their lifebars with a baseball bat. On Meth. (See: Batman RIP)
-Batman’s physical self was sent back in time via Darkseid’s Omega Sanction, causing Batman to manifest in different eras. Of course, during this journey he prep timed the world ensuring his safe passage back to his time. (See: Final Crisis, The Return of Bruce Wayne)
These developments are important because for the longest time, we have sought a Chaos-equivalent to Batman. It is known that the SRK Multiverse operates under the dual-functioning forces of order and chaos; of prep and anti-prep. MacGyver is the avatar of order and prep, for whom the universe is naturally prepped for him so that he can instantly defeat any attack against him. Jack Bauer is the avatar of chaos, whose insane human will causes 100% probability rates to drop down to zero; case in point, if Batman stuck an IV in Bauer’s arm filled with Anti-Jack Bauer spray, all it would do is piss him off. Chaos is a force that simply cannot be prepped against.
Batman is the sentinel of order and prep. Zur-En-Arrh Batman is his chaotic equivalent. Now, if your character is aligned with Prep Time (characters who are prepared for any situation, plan their attacks to the subatomic level), or if your character is aligned with chaos and Non-Give-A-Shittance (characters who just don’t give a fuck), Batman can switch personalities on the fly to match.
MacGyver and Bauer defeated Batman due to being able to prep time faster than him and just ruin his shit, respectively. When submitting a character for approval, your character must be able to counter all of these things:
a) Batman’s journey across time and space has given him the potential to prep the universe for him. MacGyver wins this match because the entirety of spacetime is prepped for MacGyver’s abuse, and Batman’s prep is still more limited. However, if your character has any weakness whatsoever, Batman can, will, and has already exploited it. You must be able to demonstrate either superior prep, or armageddon-level ruination.
b) Let’s assume you have someone who’s MUGEN broken. Light Yagami w/Shinigami eyes and Death Note, for example. That counts as a Prep-aligned character who utilizes extreme planning to kill his opponents. If Light Yagami looked at Batman, he would write “Bruce Wayne dies of a heart at-” until Zur-En-Arrh Batman’s fist popped out of the book and juggled him against a wall. This is ZEA Batman’s anti-prep in action. You must be able to counter this.[/details]
MacGuyver/Bauer/Mentos a.k.a. MacBauer
[details=Spoiler]Urban Dictionary: MacBauer
Batman reigned supreme at the top of the tiers for awhile, until it was realized that MacGuyver and his insane ability to create anything out of any three items to escape any situation is basically Batman without prep. He worked on Absolute-Zero Prep - in other words, the world has already been prepped, and he takes natural advantage of it. The fight between Batman and MacGuyver concluded when MacGuyver used a leaf, a shoestring, and a gum wrapper to create a flux capacitor and send Batman back in time.
At the same time, it was realized that Jack Bauer is the absolute opposite of prep-time. He can’t be prepped for, because the motherfucker is just so crazy. He will walk straight into the most carefully laid trap, and just start screaming and shooting shit, and at the end of the day he’s the only one alive. Thus, Jack Bauer is anti-prep, or Chaos-Counter.
We then realized that Jack Bauer and Angus MacGuyver are really two halves of the supreme being MacBauer. MacBauer was great and ruled over everything, but his power was simply too great. He was forced to split into two halves, and in doing so created the Big Bang that created the very universe we live in. This is why MacGuyver has Absolute-Zero Prep, he prepped the universe when he created it. And, Jack Bauer knows exactly how to ruin its shit. They are the perfect yin/yang of creation and destruction. If MacGuyver and Bauer were ever to fight, they would end up re-forming MacBauer and our universe would then be destroyed, and another one created in its place where Michael Jackson is still black, R.Kelly likes older women, George W. Bush is a MENSA member, and Sagat is low-tier in CvS2.
It was then later shown by Ender120, in what is generally considered the absolute best argument ever made before the S.H.I.T., that Mentos are the fundamental force of the universe that MacBauer taps into. The argument was complex and brilliant, but lost to all time in the great 2007 SRK post-purge. It was amazing though.[/details]
The King?
The King? is the mascot from recent Burger King commercials. Through various arguments that were also lost to the great post-purge of 2007, The King? was shown to have incredible powers, including (but not limited to) teleportation, and the ability to destroy God.
Spinach’d Popeye
[details=Spoiler]This means Popeye when he is under the influence of Spinach. This is granted to him much in the same way Batman is granted prep-time and Thanos is granted the infinity-gauntlet. We did not tier regular-not-on-a-fucking-spinach-murder-high Popeye. Even if it was not granted (and it is), it has been proven fairly conclusively that there is no way to keep Popeye from getting Spinach, and that he can also become “Spinach’d” from non-spinach sources such as garlic, rubbing a chicken, and eating a goddamn brick. Furthermore, this cannot be defeated by waiting until the spinach high wears off because 1) you are dead by then and 2) it doesn’t wear off until the “Finich”, which is defined as the absolute end of the conflict, at which point it no longer matters.
Anti-Pussy: Popeye does not give a fuck about Olive while Spinach’d. He has punched her, thrown her, and shown general disregard to her wellbeing while on a spinach murder-high. It doesn’t matter if Olive was part of the reason that Popeye ate the spinach in the first place. That’s like saying Batman loses to murdering his parents. No he doesn’t, that’s what gave him his strength.
Spinach’d Popeye can fly (by changing his arms into airplane propellers)and is bulletproof like superman, can breathe underwater, can withstand a nuclear explosion, and can change his limbs into any tool or shape. And you know what? He’d be broken even without any of that. Because Popeye has the Transformation Punch.
What’s the transformation punch? It’s when Popeye punches something so hard that it changes into something else. For example Popeye could punch Mr. T so hard that he transformed into Urkel. This has even been shown to work on inanimate objects. Popeye could punch a house so hard it turned into 20 port-a-potties. He could punch the sun so hard it turned into the moon. He could punch superman so hard that he turned into a coffin (complete with tombstone reading “RIP Supes”) that breaks apart when it lands to reveal a giant Dunk N Donuts that sells Superman-themed pastries as mediocre coffee. This is the power of Popeye, and the power of Spinach.[/details]
Rollback Guy
Rollback Guy is the Wal-Mart yellow smiley face that rolls back the prices. It was shown that he actually has the power to roll back any quantity. This power is so extreme that it vaulted him to the tip top of Top Tier, just below MacBauer. How does it work? What is Batman’s IQ? 300? Not anymore, Rollback Guy just rolled it back to 60. How about Batman’s bank account balance? $3 billion? Nope, Rollback Guy rolled it back to 3 cents. How many testicles does Batman have? 2? Nope, rolled back to 0.
How do I get my character accepted into Top Tier?
Prep-Time Batman is the gate-keeper to the tiers. The general thing that you must do is to explain to the S.H.I.T. in what way your character can defeat Prep-time Batman, or at least fight him to a stalemate. You also have to show that your character does not have any of the weaknesses listed in the next section (and also doesn’t have any other glaring weaknesses). If you can do that, then your character is accepted. This is much harder than it sounds.
What kind of character can I nominate?
[details=Spoiler]Your character must be a character. No inanimate objects, tools, etc.
Your character must be able to defeat Prep-time Batman without the aid of any other characters. No partners, no servants, no one else. This means that your character must have not only the defensive capability to elude PT-Batman’s attacks, but also the offensive capability to disable or kill Batman. Fighting PT-Bats to a standstill will only be considered if your character has enough offense to actually finish the job if Batman made a mistake.
Your character cannot have a glaring weakness., or else Prep-time Batman can exploit it. Weaknesses are wide and varied, but there are a few general rules to weed out some of the most common weaknesses. (NOTE: This is not a catch all. Even if your character does not possess these weaknesses, they might have another weakness that can be exploited.)
[spoiler=Weakness List]1. Pussy. If your character is susceptible to women, they will not get far. Any character that is married may as well not even try. Same goes for any character that sleeps around a lot (see: Captain Kirk). If a character has a woman he cares about, then it’s easy for Batman to exploit that weakness. A top Tier character must have anti-pussy.
Give-a-shittance. In addition to not caring about pussy, they generally have to not have any other major things they care about. If a character would go crazy if you fucked up his car or killed his best friend, then Batman can exploit this. A Top Tier character must have non-give-a-shittance.
Being Black. You can overcome this if you can show that your black character is resistant to the po-leece, fried chicken, and white women .
Being a cartoon–only character (see the Dip section)
Being effeminate.
Any other weakness we can think of[/details]
Your character must be someone we care about. This means don’t go suggesting some obscure character no one has heard of. Also don’t suggest some lame overpowered anime/comic/RPG character. No one wants to see Goku in the tiers.[/details]
What characters have attempted to gain entry and failed?
[details=Spoiler]There are too many to count, but here are some notable ones.
Kool-Aid Man (affectionaly known as KAM, actually achieved top tier status until evidence arose of him being owned by soccer mom’s in the great north, also recent kool-aid commercials put his tier status in question. also anti-KAM spray has appeared on batman’s utility belt forever keeping KAM from top tier)
Zerg rush (batman owned zerg rush in his wayne tech/blizzard incarnation with the 1.6 patch increasing spawning pool cost to 200 minerals, effectively nerfing the strat)
Pre-Crisis Superman (owned enumerable times in comics by batman, most decisively in DKSA along with the game ending quote “get out of my cave”)
Goku (lacking anti-pussy as shown by constantly being beasted by Chi-Chi. Also dyes his hair emo-blonde when he gets excited.)
Paul Bunion (it was decided that Batman could sneak up to him unawares and plant an atomic bomb in his ear)
Droopy (weak to DIP & CTRL+ALT+DEL)
Kirby (this is only notable because his rejection led CrouchingTiger to say “Well I didn’t want to play with you anyway!” and try to start his own tiering group that was utterly humorless and awful.)[/details]
What is Dip?
Dip is a magical substance from the film Who Framed Roger Rabbit?. It has the power to destroy any cartoon character. A similar weakness exists for CGI characters (CTRL+ALT+DEL)[spoiler=But Dip isn’t a character!]You are correct. However, Prep-time Batman is known to keep a vial of Dip in his utility belt.
But Popeye is a cartoon character! And so is Batman!
Dip can only work if the character only exists in cartoons. The multiple Batman movies (as well as the Adam West TV show) Grant Batman immunity from Dip. Popeye was also in a live action film, played by Robin Williams.
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But Popeye is gay with orange juice!
There is no evidence that orange juice can effect Popeye while spinach’d. Spinach protects Popeye from atomic radiation, magnetic fields, viruses, injury, explosions, gas, and everything else he’s ever encountered. It is therefore assumed that Spinach confers protection against orange juice as well.
But there’s a dog that totally dominates The King? in this one commercial!
It was shown that the dog was actually a physical manifestation of MacBauer, exercising His dominance over The King? so he didn’t get too full of himself.
But cr.Fierce isn’t a character!
For those who don’t know CvS2 (shame!) Sagat’s crouching fierce punch (“cr.Fierce” or “c.FP”) is ridiculously broken in that game. It has extreme priority over, well just about everything. At one point it was shown that c.FP was the a subatomic unit making up much of the earth’s matter (for example the AHVB is made entirely of microscopic c.FPs) But the reason that c.FP is considered “alive” is pretty much that it used to be Sagat that was listed in the tiers because he wielded the awesome power of cr.Fierce. But then it was proven that it’s actually c.FP that wields Sagat.
But Mentos aren’t alive!
Yes they are! The Mentos commercial theme song was used as evidence. It clearly states that Mentos is both fresh, and full of life.
OK so I’m sure I missed a lot of stuff. Some of the more obvious Top Tier characters aren’t explained. I left out NBG because I don’t know how to explain it well and Shaft Agent is active in the thread, so as soon as he posts a decent summary, I’ll edit it in. If there’s stuff I need to add, PM me or post it in this thread and I’ll edit it in ASAP.
…seriously.
EDIT: Most recent changes - Lightened Black people weakness to be more inclusive, added section about offensive ability and clarified the conditions of reaching stalemate with Prep-time Batman
Thanks quiche, that does help out a lot.
I still stand behind my nomination of the Sun because of the fact that it’s a star.
Stars are born and go through an adolescent and adult phase in their life cycle before they die. They also have a roundabout breathing system of “inhaling” hydrogen and “exhaling” helium.
In addition to that, if Batman ever faced off against the Sun, he would lose one of his greatest assets as the Dark Knight, darkness itself. As the Caped Crusader, Batman thrives on defeating foes and scrub criminals at night, when the Sun isn’t around. No amount of Prep-time can save you from that shit. If you fight the Sun, there will be light.
The Sun > PT Batman
Still adding stuff to the Wiki. Check the bottom of the post for recent changes.
And yeah, the Sun is just a star, one of billions just like it. I don’t see what makes it so special or so powerful. Batman could easily make a supernova-proof suit and then blow the fucker up and go live by Alpha Centauri.
…seriously.
