SRK Tier Discussion OS XII

All State Mayhem is just a facet of Bauer’s power that has somehow gained sentience. That’s like nominating Batman’s bankroll

RBG uses melee attacks to rollback stuff and we’ve all seen how well melee attacks work against NBG :cool:

everyone that NBG assimilates is a satellite that assists NBG into exponentially increasing his ranks. everybody that knows somebody else will eventually be under NBG’s control, no matter what is going on. also Bill’s got more money than God, and is under NBG’s control. that should speed up the planet’s takeover quickly.

hey, you can’t just come in here saying crazy shit like that! :mad: where is the evidence?

Agreed. How are you going to make a claim like that without any evidence?

Another thing that I want to bring up too as to there is no anime/cartoon/comic guys on the tier list is because of “The Dip”. The very presence of this stuff makes any celluloid / hand-drawn character quake in their shoes. The only reason Batman seemed to be able to avoid this crap because he was able to make the jump from comic to reality as well as having enough Prep-Time will be able to get “Anti-Dip” if necessary.

More info on The Dip:

Ever wonder what all that technical jargon that Judge Doom rattles off about his “Dip” was all about? The Dip, which he tells Eddie is a mixture he has made out of acetone, benzene, and turpentine, is the only way to kill a toon. Why? Because these are essentially the three main ingredients in “Paint Thinner” - which he uses to literally remove a toon’s paint, thereby removing their existence.

Who Framed Roger Rabbit movie trivia

Agreed. How are you going to make a claim like that without any evidence?

Another thing that I want to bring up too as to there is no anime/cartoon/comic guys on the tier list is because of “The Dip”. The very presence of this stuff makes any celluloid / hand-drawn character quake in their shoes. The only reason Batman seemed to be able to avoid this crap because he was able to make the jump from comic to reality as well as having enough Prep-Time will be able to get “Anti-Dip” if necessary.

More info on The Dip:

Ever wonder what all that technical jargon that Judge Doom rattles off about his “Dip” was all about? The Dip, which he tells Eddie is a mixture he has made out of acetone, benzene, and turpentine, is the only way to kill a toon. Why? Because these are essentially the three main ingredients in “Paint Thinner” - which he uses to literally remove a toon’s paint, thereby removing their existence.

Who Framed Roger Rabbit movie trivia

That was a punch to the stomach, meant to inflict pain to a stomach made strong as steel and invulnerable to pain by Nutri-Grain. If Rollback Guy touched NBG, it would be to rollback the length of his large and small intestine. Or rollback the number of his lungs to zero. Or rollback his number of eyes to none, which would be especially damaging to a person that requires eye contact to influence others. Even if you refuse to see that (no pun intended), it still brings us to…

Rollback Guy has a hearty laugh and takes a shit after reading this paragraph. You have how many people following you? Now you have none. Bill, you have more money than God? Now you have less than Jesus.

Fear the power of Rollback!

In my first post in this thread, I suggested that AMG could be Bauer’s illegitimate son. I feel that this supports the tier mythology and I support it. Don’t overlook the Allstate/24 Dennis Haysbert connection.

Coincidence?

Where does SEGATA SANSHIRO!!! fall in the tier?

I’ve always wondered why Saturn was able to survive in Japan and it turns out it was because of him. He combines the badassry of Kamen Rider with whatever games he is promoting.

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He is a master of disguise and friend to all

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…Except those that cross him…

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…His Miniature army…

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…No fear of fire…

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… Or ICE…

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So where does he fall?

This is backwards. Allstate is dependent upon mayhem to stay in business. If everything was all peachy keen and hunky dory all the time, nobody would ever buy insurance. It’s the possibility of mayhem that gets people to buy the insurance, and AMG is the embodiment of mayhem.

Sure, Allstate will pay for it, but they won’t make it not happen. You think Batman can just file a claim after the Batmobile gets wrecked and get a new Batmobile in minutes? That’s not how it works. Let’s not forget the fact that he is paid by Allstate. You buy Allstate, he wins. You don’t buy Allstate, you lose.

Holy shit this is back. Tonight I’m going to drop some S.H.I.T. on this thread. In the mean time, AMG I support, Disney beast loses to dip, Gaston, and pussy, Pecos Bill was good, but the moment has passed, Old Spice Guy has no useful skills (more info needed), and fuck anyone still hating on Popeye–he was accepted, deal with it.

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…seriously.

Terry Crews. Building Kick = Explosions.

Fuck a Popeye. He should not be on the list.

He loses to orange juice.
He then wants to be best friends with Bluto.

Seriously? Buddies for life?

Olive owns Popeye. Always trying to save her. Does Mario deserve to be on this list? No.

Neither does Popeye.

I’m calling bullshit on Dip being a factor against animated characters. Dip does not exist as its own entity. It doesn’t roll around on its own like The Blob. It has to be applied. It has to be poured, spilled, or sprayed on the animated character. So it’s not the animated character versus Dip, it’s the animated character versus the wielder of Dip, Judge Doom. Second, I think proved pretty conclusively in Battle Poll that Beast owns the shit out of Gaston. It’s a man versus a damn Beast. Third, The Beast loses to pussy? How? The Beast is cursed by a witch and then has to get a chick to fall in love with him. He does this by locking a bitch up in his castle and then forcing her to have dinner and dance with him. Beast loses to pussy? Pfft. Pussy loses to The Beast.

The wielder of Dip is Prep-Time Batman. So that’s a pretty solid loss for Beast.

Also, QUICHE!

…seriously.

Ok seriously? Do we have to go through this every time? These arguments have all been brought up and addressed. If a character is on the tier list, you can assume that everything has already been proposed and discussed. Once someone is established, they shouldn’t have to be defended every fucking time against the same shit. No one is making Ender120 repeat his mentos numerology magic so that mentos can stay on the list (though I’d love to see that explanation again).

Unless you have new evidence that casts suspicion on a character, you cannot challenge their incumbency. You cannot reintroduce old evidence and hope that shit sticks.

That said, I’ll reiterate it all, because I’m a nice fucking guy. I am not going to cite this with links to all the examples because I’m at work, and because all the S.H.I.T. members all remember this shit already and can confirm that these examples have already been made public.

  1. The tiered version is Spinach’d Popeye. This means Popeye when he is under the influence of Spinach. This is granted to him much in the same way Batman is granted prep-time and Thanos is granted the infinity-gauntlet. We did not tier regular-not-on-a-fucking-spinach-murder-high Popeye. Even if it was not granted (and it is), it has been proven fairly conclusively that there is no way to keep Popeye from getting Spinach, and that he can also become “Spinach’d” from non-spinach sources such as garlic, rubbing a chicken, and eating a goddamn brick. Furthermore, this cannot be defeated by waiting until the spinach high wears off because 1) you are dead by then and 2) it doesn’t wear off until the “Finich”, which is defined as the absolute end of the conflict, at which point it no longer matters.

  2. Popeye does not give a fuck about Olive while Spinach’d. He has punched her, thrown her, and shown general disregard to her wellbeing while on a spinach murder-high. It doesn’t matter if Olive was part of the reason that Popeye ate the spinach in the first place. That’s like saying Batman loses to murdering his parents. No he doesn’t, that’s what gave him his strength.

  3. There is no evidence that orange juice can effect Popeye while spinach’d. Spinach protects Popeye from atomic radiation, magnetic fields, viruses, injury, explosions, gas, and everything else he’s ever encountered. It is therefore assumed that Spinach confers protection against orange juice as well.

  4. Before someone else brings it up, Popeye is immune to Dip because, like Batman, he began in comics, and then transitioned to both animated media and live action film.

  5. Ok then, so that’s why Popeye isn’t disqualified, but what makes him powerful enough to go in the tiers? Spinach’d Popeye can fly (by changing his arms into airplane propellers)and is bulletproof like superman, can breathe underwater, can withstand a nuclear explosion, and can change his limbs into any tool or shape. And you know what? He’d be broken even without any of that. Because Popeye has the Transformation Punch.

What’s the transformation punch? It’s when Popeye punches something so hard that it changes into something else. For example Popeye could punch Mr. T so hard that he transformed into Urkel. This has even been shown to work on inanimate objects. Popeye could punch a house so hard it turned into 20 port-a-potties. He could punch the sun so hard it turned into the moon. He could punch superman so hard that he turned into a coffin (complete with tombstone reading “RIP Supes”) that breaks apart when it lands to reveal a giant Dunk N Donuts that sells Superman-themed pastries as mediocre coffee. This is the power of Popeye, and the power of Spinach.

So now can we go back to introducing new contenders?

…seriously.

EDIT: Yeah, and sorry Muff, but it’s a well-known fact that Prep-time Batman carries a vial of Dip in his utility belt. And Beast loses to pussy because as soon as it loves him, he loses his strength, badass talking-furniture cronies, and everything that made him cool. Permanently.

Doesn’t the whole part of being CURSED by a WITCH [aka PUSSY] give him weakness to pussy that are able to yield magic? Sure he may have broken that one with Belle, but I’m pretty sure if that witch wanted to be… a bitch, she would just come back and just finish the job.

The whole reasoning of pussy loses to Beast isn’t that great. Sounds more like Rape > Pussy. Which in fact anyone can do, except the Beast is a hairy rapist.

Also the DIP is easy as hell to make. Certain characters can attain it easily [prep-time Batman] and simply just splash the crap all over Beast and it’s game over.

Btw Ayyyy Jayyyy, that avatar is still the one I made that I think I’m the most happy with.

Ok so here is a new nomination. Mister Magoo.

Ok stop laughing and hear me out. Magoo blindly wanders through the world, and the universe itself conforms to keep him safe. He is like an indestructable force. It’s like he’s Inspector Gadget, but he has an invisible “Penny-field” around him that bends the very fabric of space to make sure that everything he does goes perfectly.

And before anyone says Dip, he was played by the dear recently deceased Leslie Nielsen in the 1997 film Mr. Magoo.

Thoughts?

…seriously.

Wow. Now that I think about it, I don’t know what could possibly stop him. It seems like he would just come out as the victor in any situation that he was in because the universe would will it.

That is dumb. Batman himself is vulnerable to Dip then. Do you really need me to link you to my lengthy explanation of what Beast can do? Dip can’t do shit to Beast. As soon as a girl says she loves the Beast he is brought back to life, period, with zero injuries. Also, you are incorrect about his all his cursed attributes disappearing once the curse is lifted. Fables Beast doesn’t work that way. When Fables Beast and Fables Belle argue, the Prince turns more Beastly. When they are happy he is normal. Get it? Disney Beast + Fables Beast allows his transformation to be bi-directional.

Wrong again. Anti-pussy and non-give-a-shittance is the very reason the Prince got cursed in the first place. Some old woman showed up to the Prince’s castle looking for a place to stay and he told her to step the fuck off. I mean, how are you commenting without knowing the origin story?

This rich motherfucker wouldn’t even give an old lady a place to stay on a rainy, cold night. That is ice cold. Also, check out the magic mirror. You want to talk about Prep time? The Beast can sit there and see whatever he wants using the mirror. Read that again. He has a damn mirror that let’s him see anything! He knows when you are approaching his castle.

You don’t get it: The curse is the Beast’s power. Cursed Beast can recover from any type of injury once the curse is lifted. Disney Beast + Fables Beast cannot be stopped.

You can’t have anti-pussy as a crucial tiers category and then say that the guy who locks up women in his castle is weak to pussy. You also can’t call that Rape. That makes no sense. He didn’t rape the bitch. He simply created the conditions for her to fall in love with him because he needed to. The Beast completely subverts the category of “anti-pussy”: He does not care what women want, as demonstrated by him locking them up and denying them refuge despite being filthy rich. And yet, he needs to get a chick to love him for his pure self interest.

Oh, and look at quiche’s post above re: Magoo. So a non-animated incarnation of a character makes them invulnerable to Dip? Okay, then Beast started out as a literary character and has been played by all types of actors. Dip from Prep-Time Bats has no effect. Also, previous incarnations of the Beast puts invisible servants at his disposal.

Think back to that episode of Batman TAS where the guy has the invisible suit. Batman was getting his ass kicked majorly. Imagine a team of invisible servants teaming up on Bats. It’s over for him.

I didn’t make the rules about Dip. Really, I didn’t. It was already in place long before I was a S.H.I.T. member. This isn’t me propping against Beast, it’s actual fact. You cannot take away Batman’s dip.

Interesting stuff, but I’m not sure I buy it yet. For one, the fact that the Beast heals as the curse is lifted doesn’t imply that he can heal from anything after the curse is lifted. Does the fact that I can fly 40 feet as my motorcycle hits a car mean that I can fly 40 feet at will any time after that? I think not.

See that’s a much better argument. I hereby withdraw the Dip argument against beast. I would have also accepted Beauty & the Beast on Ice but then you’d have to explain why the beast looks like a horny snufalupagus.

As for the invisible servants, they don’t count. No assists.

…seriously.

EDIT: Also, I suggest that Allstate Mayhem Guy is a terrible name, especially since we already have a Nutri-Grain Bar Guy. Can we just call him “Mayhem”?

Okay, here’s what Disney Beast can do. He can get shot, stabbed, bitten, seriously injured, whatever. As soon as some chick he loves says she loves him, all those injuries are gone. I proved this in Battle Poll. Now, combine that ability with Fables Beast. When Belle is angry with Beast in Fables, he becomes more like his Beast form. When she’s happy with him, he goes back to normal. When you combine Disney + Fables + Literary Beast it creates an unstoppable force. Let’s say you shoot Disney Beast in the face while he has Fables Beast’s powers. All Belle has to do is say, “I love you Beast!”, and bam, injury gone.

I am officially challenging this because, as with the anti-pussy category, The Beast completely subverts the no assist rule. When he received his curse, he received a number of other items to go along with it. Like the magic mirror. You can’t count that as an assist. You also cannot claim that Beast is weak against Gaston while simultaneously claiming that the servants can’t be used as assists: the servants do battle with the pitchfork-wielding villagers who are lead by Gaston. If Batman gets to use the Bat Cave as an assist to create Prep Time Batman, then Beast gets to use his Castle as an assist. You forget: the entire castle was cursed. Further, the Beast’s castle, combined with the Magic Mirror, makes the Beast’s castle superior to the Bat Cave. The magic mirror gives the Beast quasi-Omnipresence. You cannot sneak into the Beast’s castle since he can see in every area inside it and vast areas around it (the boundaries or limits of which have never been given a limit). Compare this to the Bat Cave, where numerous numbers of Batman’s enemies have successfully infiltrated. No one has entered the Beast’s castle and lived to tell about it unless he LET them leave.

Also, the Beast gets another free assist from the special ring that the enchantress gives him. The Beast can give that ring to any woman he wants, and then with three twists of the ring, the woman automatically gets teleported back to the castle. Because of the items he was given through his curse, Beast destroys any no assists arguments against him.

RockBogard suggested we tier Christopher Chance and I agree. He’s the protagonist from Human Target tv show (no clue about the comics) and that motherfucker can do anything.