I’d like to submit: “Hyper Fighting Era Tomo Ohira” to the S.H.I.T.
HFE Ohira is one of the most mythical and powerful figures in all fighting game history.
**Powers **
[media=youtube]6OEXzKk5gkQ"[/media] He is capable of countering any action performed by anyone on reaction no matter where they are.
*What exactly does that mean? *
It means that in a fight in any medium Tomo is capable of reacting quickly with proper response to whatever his enemy is trying to use to attack him. His response is perfectly timed down to the millisecond and at the correct distance to shut down his opponents ability to react further. Once his opponent is shut down he starts up with his powerful mind games.
Perfect TDR doesn’t just counter attacks on his person either. Tomo will always choose the proper response to any situation giving him ultimate non-give-a-shittance. In any situation where the opponent is anticipating that they can exploit something Tomo Ohira cares about to gain an advantage over him he immediately stops caring on reaction. Whether Tomo is able to control this reaction or if it is a subconscious reflex is unknown but this ability is so ingrained in his being that if you were to drop a Nuke on Tomo he would disarm it milliseconds before it hit the ground and he is capable of dodging bullets or catching and turning them in mid-air. God Like REACTIONS!
Evidence of Perfect TDR:
[media=youtube]Oq2-5-JC29o[/media] entire video but 5:10 is where the evidence of Perfect TDR.
C.FP property transference - In addition to having Perfect TDR Tomo is also capable of taking the godlike properties of C.FP and transferring them to other objects in the multiverse as it suits him. He could pick up a rock and give it the power to destroy a tank or pick up a trout and use it to cut a sword in half.
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How does He beat Batman? **
HFE Tomo Ohira can beat batman by simply waiting for Batman to attack. Whenever Batman makes a move Tomo can counter everything he does while studying Batman’s psychology. Once Tomo is effectively in Batman’s head he can begin playing his powerful mind games. When Batman guesses wrong (and he will) he will channel the power of C.FP into an oldschool MAS stick where he will then bash Batman over the head.
It is the HyperFighting Era version of Tomo Ohira and Perfect TDR counts as an anti-pussy - HyperFighting Era Tomo Ohira is too young to “Love them hoes”. Combined with Perfect TDR to any situation and powerful mind games makes it impossible for any woman to be used against him. You can’t kidnap his girlfriend because he would just counter by breaking up with her anyway and forgetting her name. You can’t use some hot girl to try and lure him into a trap because Tomo Ohira’s Perfect TDR would prevent any kind of harm physical or mental and his OWN mind games go beyond mortal understanding. The girl would be the one caught in his incredible mental corner traps and cross-ups that she’d have no way out other than to kill herself twice.
Well. I didn’t know what else to call it. I wanted to try and work within the already established S.H.I.T universe but you need to remember that Tomo came before C.FP
What happens is when Tomo picks any button on a joystick that button becomes godlike and it automatically counters anything his opponent could do. This works outside of videogames as well. Allowing Tomo to pick up a bat the bat turns into a Legendary item. When Tomo puts a shirt on if he needs that shirt to stop bullets it can. He could kill someone with a sardine if he needed too because the sardine becomes an extension of his innate ability to counter anything. (Perfect TDR)
I don’t see how being good at video games helps him in a fight (unless he’s fighting Optimus Prime). Tomo can “[wait] for Batman to attack” all he wants. The very first attack will snap his neck from behind before he even knows it.
[quote=Omega Viscant;9921679**Santa Claus (Muff Daddy)-No. God is already on the tiers, and let’s face it, Santa is God’s stooge. If you work for someone else, you’re not tierable imo. Also weakness to clumsiness, halloween kids, and Jews.[/quote]
See, it’s small hypocrisies like this that stand out for me. Batman is assumed to always be in his peak condition, but Ender can ramble on and on about the flaws of a Santa who is being played by Tim Allen in a particular movie? Shit just doesn’t jive to me.
And see the statement about how you’re not tierable if you work for someone else. Compare that statement to the current tier list and the current nominations. Rollback guy doesn’t work for Walmart? Jack Bauer doesn’t work for the U.S. government? The Mayhem guy doesn’t work for All State? The Old Spice guy doesn’t work for Old Spice?
I mean, argue whatever you want. We all know it’s fun to argue and it’s all in fun. But don’t ignore your own inconsistencies.
p.s. Where is the rest of S.H.I.T. anyway? Are they not active in GD anymore? Did anyone PM them? So far it’s 2 no votes for Santa and 1 vote for. I want the rest of the S.H.I.T. to read through the arguments for and against Santa and cast a vote.
I like how you can take a whole page arguing about Santa, but when I take the time to respond to your repetitive-ass arguments, I’m the one who’s rambling.
Batman is assumed to be at peak performance because that’s the version of Batman that was tiered. Prep Time Batman. Not regular, got his back broke by Bane Batman. The Batman who’s ready for everything.
If you tried to tier Non-clumsy Santa, or Santa with grips on his shoes, it might be a different story. Except it probably still wouldn’t work because there is evidence of Batman preparing to whoop ass, but there is no evidence of Santa working to not be a clutz.
Santa working for God is different than the other tier members “working” for corporations, because those corporations are not tiered. If they were powerful enough to be capable of actually controlling the people that “work” for them, they would be tiered. God, on the other hand, is tiered, and would spank Santa’s jolly red ass. Not only that, but I don’t even agree that Santa works for anybody, let alone God.
Also, for the record, the Santa that fell and almost killed himself wasn’t being played by Tim Allen. It was real Santa, before Tim Allen had to take over because he was laid up on account of being surprised (which shouldn’t happen to this omniscient Santa you keep rambling about).
It’s also not an isolated incident.
A Flinstone Christmas (1977):
“On Christmas Eve, Fred Flintstone and Barney Rubble save Christmas for children all over the world by taking Santa Claus’s place when he sprains his ankle on Fred’s roof delivering presents at the Flintstones’ house. Santa teaches them all they need to know and they do a great job, but Fred is late for a Christmas party hosted by his boss, Mr. Slate, and he could lose his job.”
See also, Quiche’s Nightmare Before Christmas evidence.
See also, the episode of Family Guy airing Dec. 12. Previews of the episode show Stewie and Brian travelling to the North Pole to kill Santa, only to find him ill and sickly looking, and they have to take over and save Christmas. If you don’t accept that (for whatever stubborn reason you’ll concoct), see Family Guy’s KISS Saves Santa.
Do you know why there are so many plotlines that revolve around a character having to save Christmas?
Because Santa can’t do it himself. He’s clumsy, he’s easily hurt, and he’s not worth a goddamn.
I didn’t base that assertion off of one Tim Allen movie. It’s something I’ve seen over and over again growing up, and it’s evidence that Santa is not top tier.
I went through all the pages and then made this big ass post while sleep deprived and then it tells me that I need to shorten it to 25000 characters. Man fuck. I’m going to sleep and I’ll be back later.
I bring more evidence against Santa, and this shit is pretty damning.
[media=youtube]Knidq8QClHw[/media]
This puts a dent in Santa’s omniscience claim. He didn’t know if the M&Ms were naughty or nice. He didn’t even know they fucking existed.
Furthermore, it also shows that he fucking faints away out cold when he’s surprised by the talking candy. I propose that all Batman would have to do is show up to the fight dressed like a talking Kit-Kat Bar and Santa would suffer an acute attack of falling-the-fuck-over-unconscious.
…seriously.
EDIT: Oh, and Rioting Soul, why not just split it into 2 posts?
Yeah, I saved it in a text file so I guess I will.
I rarely check GD for threads nowadays and I just happen to find this.
Droopy’s face got paralyzed in Harvey Birdman and he wasn’t able to eat a pear so he cried.
Yeah. One weakness of his that PT-Bats would be keen on exploiting is his overly trusting disposition. He turned his back so easily on Majin Vegeta and got knocked out because of it. Also his idiocy. He gave Cell a senzu bean before Gohan had to fight him and he didn’t use the medicine Trunks gave him because he thought he was alright.
In addition to koopa shelling it into oblivion. PT-Bats open up a Boom Tube and hangs out with Darkseid. Or floats around in the Phantom Zone. Or he goes to any other of the thousands of alien worlds, dimensions, realms etc. that I don’t know about.
Also if you wish to remove the SMB3 sun from the equation then you are going to have to convince us that it is a living, thinking, autonomous entity. You could go the sun god route but if you make it a god then there are a number of things I have in mind to stop a celestial being that ranks lower than Yahweh(and I move that the S.H.I.T. specify that we are in fact referring to Yahweh the god of the Abrahamic faiths).
After failing to get Nimrod on the tiers, I really took to this rule and now it’s the one I stress the most. I don’t care how broken your character is or that nobody can refute, if the character isn’t interesting or I have to read a wiki then I’m going to nay it. I have two characters in mind that I think have the ability to best PT Bats. But I won’t waste the time and effort with them because one is from a manga that never got an anime adaptation and it could be canceled any time now, and the other one is an anime/manga/novel character that requires some wiki browsing. But I have an other one that only requires looking at a picture… more on that at the end of this post[post 2].
He fails like previously mentioned but there’s someone that far excels at a number of those traits…
You mean to say you never witnessed him visiting your house. And “lumps of coal” is outdated. Nowadays he slides his nutsack across your slices of bread.
-…if your nominee is Buzz Killington then yeah. Like what I said above, if I don’t care for a character then it’s dead to me as a nomination. We are taking this more seriously than we should(and often more than the nominators). Also, the creation of the S.H.I.T. seems to have the negative effect of leading some non-S.H.I.T. members to believe that if they aren’t nominating a character then all that’s left is to lurk. Back before I joined S.H.I.T. I was doing exactly then what I’m doing now. If you have an idea of why someone’s nominee loses to PT Bats or to anyone that isn’t on the tiers, speak up. Also, I want to encourage nominators to pit their characters against each other(Ken Jennings was kept out of the top tier in part because of The Zerg). Except that back then the process was truly democratic for all posters to decide instead of the senate-like thing going on now. I don’t remember if CrouchingTiger was the cause or effect of this.
All of these instances where Santa needs to be saved/substituted pretty much always results in the characters having an Aesop at the end, right? And Santa always “gets better” too, right? Who’s say that Santa doesn’t, as God does, work in mysterious ways? We certainly still don’t know how he manages to visit every Christmasian home in hours. And note that I said “Christmasian”, respect the schism. Saint Nicholas, the prophet of Jesus Christ has long ago developed a different viewpoint on what is most important about the holiday. [media=youtube]eSQczYEeB2w"[/media]
Check the above link. Santa Claus is a heavy grappler with projectile capabilities and fought Jesus to a stalemate.
EDIT: Santa is also a character in Clay Fighter 63 1/3. Kringle Krush!
Since we are going off of depictions of Santa Claus and not the idea of Santa Claus or the real Saint Nicholas(right?) then it’s a non-issue. If it is questionable who left the present and it is Christmas time then it was ALWAYS Santa. We(IRL) know that it was the parents. The Santa/God similarities continue, you just have to believe that Santa has a plan.
This thread is for intense deliberation and scrutiny as well as magnificent bullshit. Both may be needed for Santa. I’m helping where I can but I truly do scrutinize these things so there are also a weakness or two that I will bring up.
I like this. For him to do his yearly deed, his reindeer would need be comparable to the SR-71 Blackbird at the least. Accelerate to mach-3 nearly instantly without producing a sonic boom and stopping on a dime. If it was just that then it wouldn’t matter since the reindeer are assists, but Santa’s sleigh is open(of the one-horse variety) so wind resistance is a bitch. And how can we hear his 'ho ho ho’s when he is going at mach 3?
I think he has these two powers in reserve:
-forcefield
-Black Bolt voice at 1/3 the capacity
It’s simply him displaying how alpha he is through a show of physical endurance in an arbitrary ploy to steal a man’s wife(and soon leave her in a condition opposite of high and dry).
Further deliberation is needed here. Santa was nominated. So all [in]famous depictions of Santa are fair game. If you want to change that then you’ll have to go and create a believable modifier, a condition or amalgamation of conditions, that specifies the aspect(s) of Santa Claus you wish to convey. At this point I think Santa won’t succeed unless you do so.
I was under the understanding that a character can work for someone so long as their is no risk of it being a liability. Also, Santa and Christianity have been split from each other for a while now. It’s just difficult to tell since most of the world is either Christian or apathetic to Christmas. But there is one far eastern island nation where Santa Claus’s influence in the scarcity of Abrahamic faith can be observed.
**All-State Mayhem (Tanion)-**More(I need to reread after I get some sleep, this post took too long to make…)
**The Man Your Man Could Smell Like (BlueNu)-**Yes. But this is probably at the detriment of All-State Mayhem since their powers are too similar(reality bending by speech)
**Most Interesting Man in the World (Infernoman)-**More(Aside from watching videos of his commercials as the theme of nominees in this thread seems to be, this guy needs a hypeman. Someone that can entertain us with exaggerated feats in his style)
**Terry Tate (BullDancer)-**No
**Kenny McCormick/Mysterion (TheEvilChinaMan)-**No
**Oprah (kz0060)-**No(MAD-TV’s parodies exaggerating her wealth and power were good for this but she is still the nexus of femininity and she got trolled by 4chan(Over 9000 dicks))
**Michael Angelo (ShinAkumax)-**No
**Bittorent (catchafire)-**No
**Beast (Muff Daddy)-**No
**Segata Sanshiro (Wellman)-**More(All I remember was him throwing someone, which made him/her explode. I’ll check other videos when I wake up)
**Terry Crews (Silent Shinobi)-**No(Not as un-merged entity)
**Mr. Magoo (Omega Viscant aka Quiche)-**Yes
**Christopher Chance (Valaris)-**No
**7-11 Big Gulp (BullDancer)-**No
**Triple Dog Dare (Shodokan123)-**No
**NBA on NBC theme (Muff Daddy)-**No
**O Fortuna (Tanion)-**No
**Ride of the Valkyries (Infernoman)-**No
**Geico Commercial Guy (Pertho)-**No
**Final Destination Death (TheEvilChinaMan)-**No
**Sun (SRKev)-**More
**Schrodinger’s Cat (TheEvilChinaMan)-**No
**NSNTP Panda (Syke1)-**No
**Mufasa’s Ghost (Syke1)-**No
**Santa Claus (Muff Daddy)-**More
**Michael Jackson (Endless)-**No
**Emma Frost (Torrie De Goddess)-**No
**Conrad Murray (Bowling Pin)-**No
**Steven Seagal (Yumi Saotome)-**No
Phew! Now finally on to my nomination. Thankfully you’ll get all you need to know by looking at this one picture but there’s somethings that need to be addressed about it before I pass out so first look at this.
OK? Alright. So, first off, I don’t even fucking know what to call this incarnation of Jackie Chan. The idea is to load upon Jackie all of the scenarios, conditions, assumed hindrances and predicaments that result in Jackie’s increased combat capabilitiy and likelyhood of improvising for the win. There are two red flags in that picture(love interest=pussy, comic relief trying to help=assist) but I contest both. For the love interest, if she was ever used to put him at a disadvantage he would work the situation through what looks to be combat through dumb luck. He may even USED HER AS A WEAPON. Tools are allowed to be used. But even with all that, Jackie has the benefit of being a middle-aged Asian male in American media… VERY asexual. For the comic relief friend trying to help, what constitutes as “help” in this case? Certainly it says the he is “trying”, which means he is in the process of not succeeding and in the context of the picture and idea, it is a negative condition he must perservere through. He gives a shit to an extreme degree(national pride) but at the same doesn’t have any to give(drunken). This version of Jackie, who in my sleep-deprived state I have been referring to as “Want No Trabble”, is an other interesting combination of order and chaos. He can use prep-time in real time, though he can’t combine the items he can use them as the way they are while innovating on the battlefield.
EDIT: I believe he has an Action-Man mathematical analysis capability which allows him to discovery the properties and specifics of the objects and area around him that aids him in his miraculous stunts.
I’m gonna stop right here and see what’s up later.
I still think that defeating the “Sun” with a turtle shell is BS. According to Mario lore:
“Although Earth in the Super Mario series is supposed to be the actual planet Earth, like other nonfictional concepts that have entered the series, the Earth that appears in Super Mario acts as a comic, satirical version of the real life subject.”
His Sun =/= Our Sun
His Sun is a pussified version of our Sun that’s only 4 feet around and doesn’t have the ability to dish out cancer, only burns. Completely separate entity, IMO.
There is already evidence of the Sun being alive. Also, saying it’s not even a big star has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not PT Bats can defeat it. The fact of the matter is it’s the only star that poses a threat to anything in our Solar System. As a member of the JLA it’s the responsibility of Batman to protect the people of the US, is it not? If so, the Sun gives skin cancer to 1 million people in the US alone per year. Fuck size, the Sun is the only star around and it’s handing out 10,000 deaths per year to Americans. So not only does Bats depend on the Sun not being around to be a successful superhero, but when it is around, it’s killing the people he’s sworn to protect at an average of 27 per day.
If PT Bats were to do any of these things, he would be running from the Sun, not defeating the Sun. That would mean stalemate, in which case the Sun is top tier.
If you’re going to go that route, then I still have to say no for two reasons:
If the Earth and Sun from Mario are disqualified for being comic, satirical versions of the real sun, then the Raisin Bran Sun is disqualified for the exact same reason, and there is no other evidence of the sun being alive.
The Raisin Bran Sun is a pussified version of our Sun that doesn’t have the ability to dish out cancer, only raisins. Completely separate entity in my opinion, also.
The Sun might kill the people Batman is sworn to protect, but will its skin cancer kill Batman? He spends most of his time in a cave underground, he only comes out at night when the Sun is on the other side of the world, and even when he does come out, he’s covered head to toe. No skin cancer, no victory for the sun.
On the other hand, Batman very well could destroy the Sun. Whether he would or not is a moot point. If they have to fight, the Sun isn’t alive, so it’d just be sitting around waiting for Batman to invent a ray or a bomb or a blackhole to destroy it (which he would, because he’s Batman).
Also, I vote very much yes on “Doan Wan No Trabble Jackie Chan”.
I tentatively support “Doan Wan No Trabble” Jackie Chan (or DWNT Chan for short) pending more discussion.
In addition to koopa shells, The Man Your Man Could Smell Like has already shown that [media=youtube]lrvWLdyG4Uw[/media]. Batman could easily switch from Bat-Rightguard to Old Spice in preparation for the fight.
Also, [media=youtube]hOpjWSG9aJk[/media] I would like to remind everyone that Kirby was soundly rejected for top tier status several years ago.
I don’t think a suicide attack counts as a win, and here’s why:
The tiers were modeled based on fighting game tiers. Since a match that always ends in Double KO doesn’t count as a win in fighting games, it shouldn’t count as a win here either.
That said, the Sun doesn’t even double-ko bats, as he can still escape.
…seriously.
EDIT: And to make the obvious joke, Cockpuncher doesn’t have any antipussy.
I agree with you that it shouldn’t count as a win, but it does count as a loss for both parties(even in fighting games both players have to insert coins/tokens to play again, also they have to rematch for tournies). If PT-Bats dies in a suicide attack then it means that Batman given a lifetime(or however long he can extend his, lazurus pit and what not) he still could not prepare a countermeasure and we know Bats would not be content with knowing that Hypothetical Suicide Bomber #28 can kill him. So in the event that this happens, would Hypothetical Suicide Bomber #28 get recognition by S.H.I.T. somehow? Or would he be thrown in the garbage like the extra character that is added to a sitcom later on that leads to it getting canceled? I’m just trying to set a precedent here because I can imagine the controversy that would arise later on.
