SRK Mini Mafia: Proving Grounds - Team Fortress 2 GAME RED - BLU Victory!

[Synonym]

Wait a sec. We have to make a vote? I thought this was the night phase…?

It is night phase. You don’t vote until the next day phase which is a few hours off.

1. Matt was in the wrong game thread.
2. He was killed in the day 1 lynch so shouldn’t have been voting anyway.

[Neesa]

Wait a sec. We have to make a vote? I thought this was the night phase…?

It is night phase. You don’t vote until the next day phase which is a few hours off.

1. Matt was in the wrong game thread.
2. He was killed in the day 1 lynch so shouldn’t have been voting anyway.

Oh, phew. I thought I had lost my mind for a moment there.

[Pimp_Willy]

Night 1: Keep Calm, let’s not lose our head…

Everybody was locked away asleep in their rooms, as the night ticked away. Waiting for everyone to fall asleep, he snuck out of his bed and started to stalk the halls of the 2Fort base. Tonight, he was supposed to meet up with their spy on the BLU side, to gather what intelligence he could. He glanced at his watch: 10 minutes to go.

Slipping quietly out of his bed, he stepped over the drunken Demoman passed out on the floor, careful not to slip on the puddle of booze – or possibly piss – he was laying in. He grabbed his trusty scattergun, and proceeded to slip out of the base undetected. Having lost thier Pyro earlier that day, he was really hoping to learn something that would turn their situation around.

Casually double jumping across the courtyard roof, he was lost momentarily in the beauty of the scene. “This place isn’t half bad,” he thought, “When there’s not explosions and corpses littering the place.” He landed quietly on the balcony, and looked at his watch. 1 Minute to go.

Azure turned back, tapping his foot impatiently. “Come on, where is he?” wondered Azure. Surely, this wasn’t some sort of setup, was it…?

In that moment, **Azure **was bathed in a large flame being thrown on him by Cyntalan.

“Ow Ow, Fuggidy Ow!” he said, making a beeline for the pond at the base of 2Fort. It was a setup! Fucking hell.

**Azure **quickly extinguished himself, but he was badly burned. He limped himself back into the base, staggering for the medical closet, when he saw the **Medic **going over some research.

“Hey, Doc! Over here!” said Azure, hurrying over to the Medic. The **Medic **saw him, and quickly realized the gravity of the situation. He looked around to see if anybody else was here to help, then picked up his Medigun and hurried over to Azure.

“Hello” said the Medic, “Where does it hurt?”

“Are you kidding me doc, look at me! That friggin Maniac Pyro set me on fire!”

“Ah, yes, I see… here, let me help you. Close your eyes, this may sting a bit.”

**Azure **closed his eyes, anticipating a needle. He didn’t like needles. He winced, waiting for the sting… that never came.

“Uh, Doc?” said Azure, as he opened his eyes. Saxton Hale stood before him, holding a paper medic mask in one hand. **Hale **smirked.

“Aussie Punch!” he yelled, and with one punch, knocked Azures head clean off its shoulders, as it sailed across the courtyard. “Oh yeah, that’s 2 points for old Saxton Hale!”

He watched across the way, and saw a familiar figure catch the head. The two Hales locked eyes momentarily, then laughed to themselves as they waved. They both retreated back to their beds, hoping to get to sleep before anybody noticed they were missing.

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Azure was killed by Saxton Hale!
Azure was the Red Scout!
**Azure **was killed with Aussie Punch!

Azure does not get a last gasp

It is now Day 2, votes are due Wednesday at 9:00 AM PST (in 36 hours)

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[Synonym]

Massive props to PW for making the write-ups congruent with the 2Fort theme. Well done.

Also, by the last line it looks like the Mafia have used their LG blocker on Azure. Either they were worried by the insight he was showing, or they’re trying to implicate his detractors.

[Saitsu]

That’s good news on the LG front.

They wasted it too early. Even if Azure had good information, without being UC and with how early it is, his Last Gasp would’ve been of minimal importance.

Now to think about the implications. Azure said that if BD was telling the truth, me and Godot are the next suspects. Now he’s dead.

[Synonym]

N’t take thus far:
Lynch Bulldancer.
If he turns up clean, lynch Saistu and Godots, because an innocent BS means we’ve been played by a thinly-veiled Good Cop Bad Cop routine.
But if BS is guilty, then I say Godots is clean, and all of his “agrees” with me were sincere, and not in-game mind fuckery.

I think this theme of Azure’s posts may be one of the mafias reasons for killing him. To implicate Godots ahead of today’s lynch vote. It may have also been a potential role hunt.

I’ll leave now as well, I’m not convinced that BullDancer is mafia.
And if they are lynching him, our UC claimant, to see if he’s clean, then that’s quite a risky play for a civ seeing as he might be our investigative power role.
The biggest suspect in my mind is the one who brought it up,

Lynch Bulldancer.
If he turns up clean, lynch Saistu and Godots, because an innocent BS means we’ve been played by a thinly-veiled Good Cop Bad Cop routine.
But if BS is guilty, then I say Godots is clean, and all of his “agrees” with me were sincere, and not in-game mind fuckery.

So for now, Lynch Azure

Another explanation is that the mafia were trying to implicate the sole voter for Azure last day phase, Mobius.

That is cool, Bulldancer.
I initially got a major alarm bell go off upon reading Godots’s first couple of posts.
He is smart, and something felt… off.
But it is nothing that I was certain of, not could I prove.
Your responses ran counter to him.
He picked you.
Then Saistu comes in, and a good cop-bad cop plays out, with BOTH of them in the end going for you.
That made you the perfect choice to sniff them out.

He was looking to sniff out possible mafia with Godots and Saitsu. Once again this may have been done to implicate GR but it could also be a ploy to protect Saitsu. I’m still not sure whether he’s a misguided civilian with lots of zeal or if he’s mafia.

You’re not helping anyone by doing that. If you want to do something stupid anywhere else fine, but without a UC we’re weak right now. I will not have anyone sabotaging the Civs if they can avoid it.

So again, you will not post on anything strategy related until the Night Kill is reported in. Do you understand me?

Um, no?
I understand you about as well as I can understand anyone who is #2 on my current lynch list.

However, Azure was pretty confident that he was mafia. Although once again his primary suspect was Godots.

All up, I think this was an attempt to implicate GR.

[Saitsu]

Honestly, that was my thought as well. I doubt Mafia kills Azure if GR was one of them. It would’ve been too obvious of a target.

Which would leave me as the prime suspect.

So feel free to begin the investigation and terrogation.

[Mobius]

Not good.
First off, we made it too easy for the mafia to hop on the BullDancer wagon. Almost everyone voted him.

Now that Azure is dead and revealed civ, if we look back at his original plan, what he wanted was to lynch Saitsu and Godots if BullDancer turns up clean.

I did not like this plan because it would subjugate us into a lynch and lose scenario(if those 3 are civs) on Day 4.
A procedural plan that requires 3 sacrifices is too pricey especially if its foundation is “if x(ie. BullDancer) = y(Civilian), then z(ie. Saitsu) must be V(Mafia)”.

Additionally, focusing the spotlight on those 3 will just make it easy for the Mafia to nod and say “sounds good, he’s suspicious, let’s lynch him” without any fear of backlash against them as they were following the command of a civ.

Looking at the current situation, it seem like it did happened.

Look back after BullDancer was revealed civ, the others just jump on the next target so quickly.
It was like step 1 was done so on to step 2.

We don’t have number on our side, this is a 11 man game, with 4 straight mislynches we lose. That is unless, you people are hoping that our Medic would be able to block a kill for each of our screw up.

[Synonym]

As of now we have the following players remaining:

The Co-Jones
DarkGeneral
GodotsRevenge (Azure’s suspect #1)
Manx
Mobius (Sole voter for Azure)
Neesa
Pietastic
Saitsu (Azure’s suspect #2)
Synonym

I think we should momentarily turn our attention away from the three people already attributed with a connection to Azure. Looking at the list, everyone bar myself and Mobius voted for Bulldancer. I haven’t gone back yet to see the order the votes were cast in but I’ll post that shortly.

Does anyone have a reason to pursue anyone not currently listed as a suspect?

[DarkGeneral]

*Here’s a post containing all of Azure’s post since we can’t get a last gasp out of him.

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Heya, fellow townies!

Sup.

First time civ, here.

The feels…

I feel so clean, it is almost raw.

As a civ, I go by the “no day one no lynch” school of thought.

I always thought this… I just got mafia every other time, so I kept that to myself.

I did not suggest a No Lynch - I suggested a NO no lynch.

Reading comp.

Page 2 posts*

Spoiler

Why hello there. What a great way to start off a game thn to bring undue suspicion on yourself by showing up late as hell.

Grill away. :tup:

Convince away.

Seriously though.

I think Godots is a very, very savvy player.

Too savvy to have misread my post.

Suspect #1: Godots

Thoughts, admissions, denials?

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I too, suggest lynching a wallflower.

Or at the very least intending to.

If they do not step up and offer compelling reason NOT to, then proceed.

Less chaff, more wheat.

All the wheat in the world won’t mean a thing if we fall behind early.

We’re going to be minus one civ, regardless.

We might as well go for their throats - if they aren’t part of the solution, they’re part of the problem.

If they do not come off the wall to defend themselves… in a game filled with rank amateurs, that’s not even amateur play - that’s either bad play, or Mafia yomi.

Either way, it is something that stands to get us killed down the stretch.

It’s not like we have a Missing Person in here, who is an aggressively extroverted sociopath, smiling and glad-handing on the one, whilst slitting throats with the other.

I still don’t like it. It’s too easy a stance for Mafia to bandwagon on for a while.

Explain?

It cannot be a bandwagon for the Mafia, if the fuckin’ civ wallflowers do it right, and start posting.

This will force the Mafia into the mixup, and allow for us to actually get reads.

Which is paramount.

Bandwagon? There’s an easy way around what you’re thinking… For the wallflowers to stand up and pull their own weight. For now, until we get enough data on who has been advocating for who, I like the idea of lynching wallflowers. It’s a powerful incentive to get people paying attention and contributing.

***Exactly my point.

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Thank you.

This is my 3Rd.

But I was privy to the whole Vynce arpage in the game before the Veterans game, as well as that one.

Also, I called Vynce as Mafia, from the get go (I got in on the game, day 3, iirc)

N’t take thus far:

Lynch Bulldancer.

If he turns up clean, lynch Saistu and Godots, because an innocent BS means we’ve been played by a thinly-veiled Good Cop Bad Cop routine.

But if BS is guilty, then I say Godots is clean, and all of his “agrees” with me were sincere, and not in-game mind fuckery.

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That should read “my take” thus far.

Swype, yo. :sad:

Lynch Bulldancer.

If he turns up clean, lynch Saistu and Godots, because an innocent BS means we’ve been played by a thinly-veiled Good Cop Bad Cop routine.

But if BS is guilty, then I say Godots is clean, and all of his “agrees” with me were sincere, and not in-game mind fuckery.

I don’t like the logic you’re taking if BullDancer is innocent, but I’m fairly certain BD is Mafia. I’ll create an arguementl against lynching Saitsu and me if that’s the case.

No, no.

I am saying lynching BD is a solid play.

He is very good at zero emotional or otherwise incriminating content in his posts.

But if he turns up clean, we need to look at who went for him first.

I hope he is Mafia, and we clean up in 3 days or less.

Let’s make this a civ win in record time.

That said, I’m holding out to see what is said, up until closer to the deadline.

What do we really think is going to develop over the course of another day?

I ask this in all seriousness.

What does waiting 24 more hours give us?

One of us civs is guaranteed dead tomorrow.

All that a no lynch will do is make it so there is one less civ in the pool.

Or is the expectation that someone will miraculously fuck up, with no incentive and less pressure to do so?

I ask this in all seriousness.

What does waiting 24 more hours give us?

One of us civs is guaranteed dead tomorrow.

All that a no lynch will do is make it so there is one less civ in the pool.

Or is the expectation that someone will miraculously fuck up, with no incentive and less pressure to do so?

Absolutely nothing, which is the point I’m trying to get at, one less civ in the pool is better than two less in a ELEVEN MAN game, smarten up niggas…

I have a feeling that I may be accusing a role, because GodotsRevenge is acting off…

He may be mafia, but if we lynch our UC game over… especially when mafia can negate last gasps…

Bolds 24 in my post.

Bolds 11 in his.

24 - 11 = 13.

13 = unlucky.

You’re making it reaaaaaaally easy to see Anti-Christ Toast, here, BD…

What do we really think is going to develop over the course of another day?

I ask this in all seriousness.

What does waiting 24 more hours give us?

One of us civs is guaranteed dead tomorrow.

All that a no lynch will do is make it so there is one less civ in the pool.

Or is the expectation that someone will miraculously fuck up, with no incentive and less pressure to do so?

• I’ve been pondering this exact question. If we fuck up and lynch a civ, where does that leave us? The reality of the situation is that if we do lynch someone we have to try to take something positive out of it whether they are mafia or not. Since afterwards come the night phase and after we’re pretty much guaranteed to be down 7/2 unless we get a godlike medic protect.

Whoever mafia decides to go after during night phase will tell us alot more about the mafia’s identity and playstyle.
*

You see, this is what I have issues with:

If we no lynch, we gain zero information on everyone else, and have nothing to discuss that might give us leads, luck out a mistakee, or force an error.

No lynch leaves us neutral, on that front.

The Mafia’s first day kill won’t tell us anything, either - they can afford to be capricious as fuck, because there is no history.

I have said my piece.

If Bulldancer comes up clean, I am going after Saitsu and Godots.

That said:

*** Lynch Bulldancer***

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Please, by all means, do lynch me.

I am a roleless civ.

Which would make me a FAR better choice than the Medic.

No matter WHO that might be.

If it is BD though… ggpo, BD - everyone going in on you was entirely YOUR fault.

I am keeping my vote as BD.

If he turns out to be a horribly played Medic, you all need to lynch the ever living fuck out of Godots and Saitsu.

That is cool, Bulldancer.

I initially got a major alarm bell go off upon reading Godots’s first couple of posts.

He is smart, and something felt… off.

But it is nothing that I was certain of, not could I prove.

Your responses ran counter to him.

He picked you.

Then Saistu comes in, and a good cop-bad cop plays out, with BOTH of them in the end going for you.

That made you the perfect choice to sniff them out.

.

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*not could I prove.

disables Swype’s shitty-assed interface

*nor.

Aaaaaaah.

MUCH better.

What Godots said. :tup:

I have played this like I have nothing to lose, from the get.

Specifically because I do not.

Just because you are roleless, doesn’t mean you cannot play a role.

@BullDancer

Why in the fuck would the real UC come out and expose his or her head, just because you role claimed?

This presumes you aren’t the UC.

@GodotsRevenge

Mobius already voted, last page.

It is (2) Azure

We know where to start.

I would love to get Nasty Manx’s and Co-Jo’s takes on the recent developments.

I mean beyond Godots going bye-bye.

Fuck 'em.

Let them come after me.

You’re not helping anyone by doing that. If you want to do something stupid anywhere else fine, but without a UC we’re weak right now. I will not have anyone sabotaging the Civs if they can avoid it.

So again, you will not post on anything strategy related until the Night Kill is reported in. Do you understand me?

Um, no?

I understand you about as well as I can understand anyone who is #2 on my current lynch list.

No posts on page 7.

[Saitsu]

Alright, from what I have, right around when Mobius goes after BD is when the bandwagon starts (I’m not implicating you, just stating the timeframe).

We can assume quite easily that at least one if not both Mafia members were on that bandwagon. Both Godot and me were the first ones to go after BD, then Azure who’s innocent. Then BD role claims and all hell breaks loose. The FIRST PERSON to start the wagon after BD Role Claims was Manx. The same person who helped essentially start the malcontent in the first place. Not to mention was also staying in the shadows a bit.

Before we go full steam, does anyone have a post count?

[Synonym]

Order of votes for BD: GodotsRevenge, Saitsu, Azure, (Revealed as UC), Manx, Pietastic, Co Jones, DarkGeneral, Neesa

To those in bold, why did you follow through on a lynch against our UC?

[Saitsu]

Oh sorry, I meant Manx going after BD in my first statement. My bad Mobius lol. Ignore the first sentence of the post.

[DarkGeneral]

• Sorry but I need to ask this again for those of you who didn’t answer. If you were Hale would you pick pre-game?

@The Co-Jones
@GodotsRevenge
@Neesa
@Saitsu

Additionally is there ANYONE here who would take a gamble on partnering up with a inexperienced player? No one? *

[DarkGeneral]

Before we go full steam, does anyone have a post count?

*I can count them but it’ll be by hand again. *

[Saitsu]

What do you mean if I were Hale would I pick pre-game?

[Neesa]

Order of votes for BD: GodotsRevenge, Saitsu, Azure, (Revealed as UC), Manx, Pietastic, Co Jones, DarkGeneral, Neesa

To those in bold, why did you follow through on a lynch against our UC?

I posted up earlier on this page my thoughts on why I voted for BD. It was in a quote cause I didn’t read over my shit properly.

• Sorry but I need to ask this again for those of you who didn’t answer. If you were Hale would you pick pre-game?

@The Co-Jones
@GodotsRevenge
@Neesa
@Saitsu

Additionally is there ANYONE here who would take a gamble on partnering up with a inexperienced player? No one? *

It would’ve been either Azure, BD or Manx, cause those are the only people I really know from playing with them or talking to them. I don’t really know anyone else so, I’d go with what’s comfortable for me, inexperienced or not.

[Neesa]

What do you mean if I were Hale would I pick pre-game?

I was actually confused by the question, but, I tried to answer it to the best of my abilities.

[Neesa]

I like how the other game tried to clown on us for losing our Pyro when they lost theirs as well.

[DarkGeneral]

Order of votes for BD: GodotsRevenge, Saitsu, Azure, (Revealed as UC), Manx, Pietastic, Co Jones, DarkGeneral, Neesa

To those in bold, why did you follow through on a lynch against our UC?

*I reread the the BullDancer situation multiple times and I was still not sure which way to lean. I wanted to try and hear him out so that I could try making it a hung jury by voting to lynch Azure and force a tie. But I was running low on time and BullDancer was being unresponsive to my questions. Afterwards I scanned through the conversation one more time and found those two seemingly contradicting statements that I quoted. At that point I finally broke down and decided to jump on the lynch wagon.

I still feel terrible about it but the only thing I can do now is try and make up for my mistakes.