SRK Mafia X -- Dangan Ronpa: Fire At Will -- END -- Civilians Win

[Hecatom]

Missing Person (13) Mobius, orochizoolander, Hecatom, The Co-Jones, Synonym, ForgeDigger, pietastic, Pimp Willy, infrequent lurker, The Chief, Sumazndude, Cyntalan, Azure
Pimp Willy (4) RadicalFuzz, BullDancer, Missing Person, Augustus
Combo_Knight (2) DarkGeneral, AlphaCommando
BullDancer (1) Doofenshmirtz
orochizoolander (1) Combo_Knight
pietatic (1) WTF-AKUMA-HAX
No Lynch (1) Bious

Hmm. 2 confirmed civs, 1 so far helpful person, and RF. And these came up fast, before I got people switched onto MP from me and saved my life. Well, I assume fast, don’t know really when they were cast, but I think they were confirmed before I saved my ass.

So, maybe the reason Augustus pointed out the SAM kill was because he was in on the reasoning, and just wanted brownie points

AC put a vote in on C_K. That almost makes C_K more suspicious to me.

I’d bet there’s one more mafia between CK, HAX, Doof and DarkGeneral

About that, C_K got a vote from AC on day 2 as well.
I have been reading the posts before and after each vote to see what i can get.
RF seems to go against the flow so far on each votes round, the 1st day for you, the second day for DarkGeneral, which btw i think he started to went after night one ended.
AC voted twice against C_K
Dark General went for C_K day 1
I also noticed this

…so it could be safe for anyone of those 2 to come out and still we wouldnt have to deal with the triple kill, unless of course the Val can use it on a walking dead like Bious and or with their own?

About this, i think that it could be useful if @GodotsRevenge could tell us if the Val can use the triple kill on Bious that is already dead in a way, or if he can use one of the mafia to make the sacrifice (the later is more than not possible imo, but it will be good to know)

I would assume that there’s no restrictions on who the Mafia targets with the triple kill ability. Thinking on it, that would also trigger Komaeda’s win condition, since he was killed by the Mafia at night. Interesting.

Wan’t the Roless the one who died?

BullDancer was roleless, but he died to a normal Mafia kill.

BullDancer was killed by Syo, at least according to the write-up.

Thanks for the correction. Regardless, BD is dead.

Good point.

DarkGeneral Let’s say you learned that another player was civilian who was in line to be lynched. How would you respond in the thread?

*If I knew that the other person was absolutely a fellow civ? I’d take up for him instead of standing by idly while he goes to the gallows. *

That’s interesting, you wouldn’t even consider the other factors such as number of confirmed-role civilians? Previously in the thread when I asked you if you would lynch OZ or myself if we were all in the final 3 you responded by saying you’d analyze the data that had been gathered at that point and gave me basically the same response when I asked you to act as though no new information would appear. But this time you answered me quickly and without asking for clarification on the situation. You’re telling me what I want to hear, not what you’re actually thinking. Congratulations! You are now officially my #1 priority!

@AlphaCommando, @Synonym, @Augustus, @ Combo Knight, Missing Person, and Pimp Willy, what do you guys think of Dark General and his posts?

DG was on my short-list of potential Mafia, with a couple of others striking me as just a little more odd than him. As for his posts, they appear to be in that ‘appear to be helpful, but project little information’ category.

Dunno why, but i feel that there is a chance that they have been trying to go after DG since then trying to divert the attention to him.

[Pimp_Willy]

So, maybe the reason Augustus pointed out the SAM kill was because he was in on the reasoning, and just wanted brownie points

Psh. I am so clean.

On the one hand, I hope you’re just that good.

On the other hand, if you are, then that’s scary and I hate you

[Pimp_Willy]

Or better yet PW, you could prove to me you haven’t been stringing us along ang keep me alive one more night.

Sorry, I took another look at the roles, and I just don’t see a role that both activates at night and will be super important for us to win

[orochizoolander]

I understand why anyone would be suspicious of me, I’ve been quiet and unhelpful so far so if a few logical civs choose to vote for me and then mafia hop on the band wagon and I die then I won’t pull a @hecatom, I get it so I won’t bother defending myself. However, I will explain my actions up to this point so guys please understand I’ve intentionally been playing this game differently than usual hoping it would help in the long term but that doesn’t seem to be panning out so I’ll switch gears back to normal OZ. Also I’ve been a bit TOO cryptic and made some of you overthink/overestimate my train of though this game :lol: I need to stop over thinkng this shit and be more clear.

Just read this thread from page 1 so excuse the quote bomb.

[details=Spoiler]No posts after roles given/Valedictorian chosen and before Mafia chosen:

1. Mobius
3. Hecatom
7. orochizoolander
9. The Co-Jones
11. Sumazndude
12. Augustus
15. pietastic
19. Cyntalan
21. BullDancer
23. Doofenshmirtz

No posts after Mafia chosen:

3. Hecatom
4. orochizoolander
5. The Co-Jones
6. Sumazndude
7. Augustus
   14. DarkGeneral
8. pietastic
   17. Azure
   18. The Chief
9. Cyntalan
10. BullDancer[/details]

Bolded players are ones that are only in one list.

With the hindsight that this is the list of a mafia, should the bolded players be automatically exonerated from suspicion? I give AC a lot of credit perhaps too much, but I suspect he would slip in at least 1 mafia in bold on the offchance he gets killed and then we all come back to this incriminating list looking for info.

Gonna say that if Oogami protects a Mafia targeted player, she can’t be saved by the Medic. It also requires Oogami to role claim, which gives Mafia 1 of 3 confirmed roles for the triple kill ability. This is also under the assumption that both Medics (and/or Oogami) haven’t been recruited as well.

If there was any doubt that PW was oogami, this is the psot that should kill it, I apologize PW for not seeing it before.

@GodotsRevenge Does the triple kill bypass all Medic protections?

So it’s safe to say there is no mafia medic.

One em has the “Knows who Genocider Syo is at the start of the game” don’t they?

WTF with the WTF early psychic DP :lol: unfortunately I couldn’t find any posts of anyone trying to manipulate azure.

Oogami comes out and says who they are. Nobody else role claims.

Medic protects Oogami. both medics, since they don’t know eachother identity. I assume hall monitor was turned and the Nurse wasn’t, but there’s still the chance they both were.

That’s it.

Oogami gets to protect 2 people a night, medic protects oogami, that means there’s basically 3 people a night saved (Oogami plus his two picks).

Medic doesn’t have to role claim. it’d be great if Medic was known, because oogami could protect the two of them plus a third, but it doesn’t matter. This works until the medic is killed.

If we don’t have any medics, then Oogami dying isn’t that bad, as it potentially reveals a mafia as well.

so what’s to lose?

Oogami, I hope you role claim before the end of the day, and medics, I hope you’re on board if you’re on our side.

I was a bit confused about the protection thing until this thanks for explaining it’s back on the table as an option in spite of recent pages correct?

Okay so in regards to the question at the top I’d probably take Hifumi (Otaku) and Chihiro (Programmer) and Kiyotaka (Medic) right away (I think these roles would be quite valuable especially Chihiro and Kiyotaka) and for the last one im not quite sure. Probably Celes (Gambler) for the last one just for that extra security of having a somewhat confirmed civ. Unless by showing up as not guilty she doesnt show up as innocent? But yeah those would be my 4 choices im sure the real mafia would have thought this out a lot more than i just did tho

This is his first post in the thread, this was before we had a soft confirm that mafia has no medics, this is circumstantial evidence at best sure, but still smacks of a mafia bluffing that they do have a medic.

*Interesting response. For the sake of clarification, what are those 4 weakest roles? Feel free to post your top 4 strongest as well. *

4 weakest:
1. Naegi. Having him die once doesn’t prove his allegiance either way. Plus, having him on the Civilian team is a benefit to the Mafia, as his first death gives them a guaranteed 1 of 3 for the triple kill.
2. Junko. Sacrificing her to protect another player from a day lynch only prolongs the other Mafia member’s death.
3. Hinata. Roleless provides no benefit to Civs or Mafia.
4. Chiaki. A 1:1 sacrifice provides no statistical benefit to the Mafia.

4 strongest:
1. Maizono. With Kirigiri being the only confirmed Civ role, being able to manipulate her results is a powerful tool. Also prevents the Civs from being able to use the target ability.
2. Fujisaki. An easy way to force a quick game over (when numbers are nearing even). For example, let’s say it’s 7 Civs/5 Mafia/1 Nagito. Day phase is announced, Fujisaki submits his lynch vote immediately and ends the day phase. One vote is recorded and that person is lynched.
3. Ishimaru. Has the advantage over Mikan of being able to use his ability without everyone knowing that role is Mafia. Also takes away the temporary immunity.
4. Koizumi. Her ability used in conjunction with the Mafia kill allows for an easy find of the Medic if the target is protected that night. ‘If you successfully protect someone, you die.’ is an amazingly powerful role.

If you’d like any justification on the reason any of the other roles weren’t mentioned, I can share my thoughts on their individual strengths and weaknesses. Here’s a couple that I think deserve special mention:

Togami. His role in itself isn’t particularly powerful (at all), but his Civ ability could be used to jeopardise certain Mafia roles, so taking that away from the civs would be a priority where the Mafia team makes it obvious which roles are Mafia.
Asahina. Her Mafia role isn’t particularly special (it can even be incriminating), but her Civ ability is a threat to the Valedictorian. If Asahina does turn out to be Mafia, we should be looking at the selfish, egotistical players for potential Valedictorians.
Oowada. Another one of the characters more focused on the statistical victory of Mafia. Slightly more advantageous than Chiaki, as a Mafia member is day lynched/Syo killed instead of sacrificed. Keep an eye out for Oowada if Fujisaki is Mafia and vice versa.
Nekomaru. A very ballsy recruit possibility. It works on the preface that Nekomaru is controlled by a powerful player, so he would only be recruited by someone who likes to gamble. If Nekomaru was an insightful player, that would not only give Mafia continuous support, but it would stop the Civs from receiving their continuous support. Would be more likely to be recruited if someone powerful hinted that role in the sign-up thread before allegiances were chosen. As far as I can tell, I don’t think there was anyone that did this.

I think it’s safe to assume at least 1 of the 4 weakest roles is a confirmed mafia, but I unfortunately don’t have the insight as to which one AC would have not wanted us to know he picked.

If I had to wager a guess, though, this doesn’t make him mafia, but Nagita tryin’ to get himself killed. From his point of view, him as mafia acting like this would be too obvious to bother with civ’s lynching but may make mafia suspect him of a good role (trying a different approach to avoid being lynched) and kill him. Risky endeavor, as I’d still greatly fear the vigi taking matters in his own hands.

Personally, I would’ve gone with a first post very boisterous role claim of Nagita and see if mafia called my “bluff”.

This does make me question you, however, CK. What makes you think his change in attitude automatically makes him mafia? It could very well be likely that he is also doing some yomi here and hiding on a good role by this very same bluff. With all these roles, all these alignment variables, it’s hard to claim that a simple behavior change means someone is mafia.

You were sort of on the right track the first time cynti (I’m not nagita or trying to do lol) however, I didn’t realize how adamant CK was against me until this post and how it continued afterwards, but is that alone enough to suspect CK? I want to say yes but I know I can’t…yet.

This does make me question you, however, CK. What makes you think his change in attitude automatically makes him mafia? It could very well be likely that he is also doing some yomi here and hiding on a good role by this very same bluff. With all these roles, all these alignment variables, it’s hard to claim that a simple behavior change means someone is mafia.

OZ never portrays himself as the mindgaming time he is very direct and loud about his way of business, I call him out because I expected him to be loud agreesive in full effect, yet…where is he?

He has a good role, a good MAFIA role, execute the man I know he’s skulking around here lurking. For what I wonder exactly?

He never has anything to hide why start now?

My thinking was that it would be ideal to have a few people suspect me so that mafia think I’m not worth a night kill and get lynched but not actually get enough lynch votes to actually die so I can continue getting more info for civs. Guess that plan is out the window. Halp.

Okay, well I should probably submit my vote before I go to bed in the off chance that I don’t wake up in time to submit it. I can’t, in good conscience, vote for someone I believe to be more likely to be civ. I’ve gotta go for my strongest read.

Lynch Combo_Knight

This could very well be a tell that CK is mafia, AC knows the “2 mafias going for each other’s throat” is pretty easy to spot I mean we discussed it in our game when we were both civs, but to have one mafia implicate their own and have that implicated mafia go after a civ…that’s fresh spin on that tired tactic and exactly the mid level move I’d expect AC to make.

Lol no, I voted for you because as a civilian I fear you will put me on the chop block you lynch junkie. Lol.

…awesome logic, but you’re smart enough to know others would say this is weak reasoning…unless you pretended to be super adamant about voting me all game so civs would dismiss you as an overzealous civ.

Nah, I wasn’t joking. From your point of view (“I only know that I am civilian/Mafia”) you would vote to lynch DarkGeneral instead of me. Thanks for answering.

@DarkGeneral If you, OZ, and I were all in the final 3 (one Mafia, two Civilians) who would you vote to lynch? I’ll give my answer to the question after yours.

I get the wine example, but how does it help the civs to know what either I or darkgeneral would do in that situation?

If I was Mafia I’d be playing this differently based on what roles we’d have. If we had many Investigation-tampering roles then yeah, I’d probably be playing in a similar manner as this, trying to act semi-crazy to get investigated and have the Forger switch my results every night unless I was confident I wouldn’t be targeted. Also, for that results plan to work, I’d have to not only have the Otaku and Forger on my side to verify if the UC investigated the Forged target, but I’d have to play it in such a manner that my suspicions didn’t appear hasty to the UC. This might not help my case, but I’d probably be playing it about the same, though aggressive on you and Synonym/OZ (depending on who we thought the UC was and of course assuming they aren’t Mafia in this hypothetical scenario) instead of just you and kinda Pimp Willy (who’d kinda be a waste of an investigation to be honest)

The chances of me being the Valedictorian and recruiting the Forger are the same as me being the Gambler, the Mafia that comes up Innocent on investigations, and getting recruited so if you’re going to consider one possibility you must acknowledge the other. Anyway, this has been a very fun conversation and I really hope I’m alive to continue it in the morning (because the Mafia obviously won’t kill you).
In case I die and my LG is blocked:
Suspicion List, in Order:

1. DarkGeneral
2. Orochizoolander
3. Pimp Willy, but I admit that his current play won’t help him as Mafia

(Yes, I’m leaving out 2 and 4 on purpose. Don’t want them wising up in case I’m still alive tomorrow)

I don’t blame you for suspecting me whatever, but this post gives a good clue what your role is, don’t be afraid to take risks if you survive lat game :tup:

Called it. I’m really hoping you aren’t the emperor of mind games (though I doubt it) and really are civilian. Now that you’re confirmed though, do you still think that RF is a valid choice to lynch or are there more salient players? MP, I’d ask you the same but you posted a list not too long ago.

When did you “call it” and why didn’t you defend PW when he was suspected by half of us?

So, AlphaCommando… honestly, I could see it go both ways with him, the forging on him could be both Offensive or Defensive.

More defensive, I think though. Who would expect the UC to investigate AC enough to make it an offensive use? Outside of us knowing who it was going to be targeting, like we did here…

Well, AC, things are looking pretty grim for you my friend. could it be AC was our Validictiorian all along, and his whole pre game “Lets see who posted before and after the roles were sent” out thing was just his mask?

Great read PW, if the UC did investigate AC would he die any faster than he did?

Mafia realises that having Bious ring-in late is suspicious. I know personally that I posted something along those lines and that Azure (?, Maybe Augustus? Someone starting with A) did too. On night one they choose to target their own player, not using the kill switch-a-roo power with Syo. They may not have been expecting Gandamu to use his power, I suspect that may have been an added bonus they’re capitalising on. They choose to let Bious die as someone relatively undervalued but who has the potential to completely dominate the thread and redirect lynches away from themselves. I’d assume they were planning on doing this in the LG with his ‘power’ being able to confirm/deny civilian roles. Having him in the thread for the next 48 may have been a godsend to the mafia that they’re now taking full advantage of. Especially if they get a powerful civ on their side like PW who’ll champion their results without endangering any of their other members.

This is a bit of a stretch still, but who were our prime suspects going into Day 2 before AC (and to a lesser extend Pietastic) became the go-to lynch choices?

Last minute protection for AC? hmmm… okay this puts you on my suspect list, although I admit it’s weak evidence.

@orochizoolander do you think Alpha is Mafia or Civilian, assuming that Bious is telling the truth?

Obviously knowing the answer now you may not believe me, but at the time of your post I thought AC was clean he had me fooled, and I was clear on bious until PW reminded me about the forger power :lol:

There’s a potential scenario that as far as I can tell, hasn’t been considered.

What if both Bious and Pimp Willy are Mafia?

I’m inclined to believe that’s not the case, as Pimp Willy’s been the forerunner on doubting Bious’ claim, but we’re making the assumption that PW is Civ based on the fact that Bious confirmed that his targets were correct. Is it possible he’s trying to flush Asahina out?

Slim chance of this being the case in my opinion, and slimmer chance of PW being Mafia, but we have to consider every possibility in this game.

Damn, if only we could see this coming bious would be alive =/

Also, OZ made a soft Togami claim, second day, after the kill vote was already sent in.

I spent so much time trying to over analyze because after reading the roles and players I assumed there would be a lot of yomi layer 3 tech going on so that is mainly why I’ve been posting the way I have however, I never thought for a second that any civ would mistake me for togami and have that skew the meaning behind my posts. I’m not togami but I like the way you think

[Combo_Knight]

Or better yet PW, you could prove to me you haven’t been stringing us along ang keep me alive one more night.

Sorry, I took another look at the roles, and I just don’t see a role that both activates at night and will be super important for us to win

I understand my role is pretty weak, I was just crying to godots about that.

[orochizoolander]

Doof and to a lesser degree synonym are my suspects thus far.

[Hecatom]

Or better yet PW, you could prove to me you haven’t been stringing us along ang keep me alive one more night.

Sorry, I took another look at the roles, and I just don’t see a role that both activates at night and will be super important for us to win

He is maybe implying that he could be the Gamer Girl or the Trap boy who can negate all the activities of the phase he skips.
Considering what AC posted about how useful it could be in his mind…

I know that AC has been batering with hims since day one after C_K went after Oz, but i still don’t feel that he has been misblamed as i do about Dark General.
Call me crazy, but my guts are telling me that the mafia has been trying to work in a way that they seem to agree in pairs in some “suspicious people” while at the same time disagree in others.
C_K and RF agreeing on Oz and DG but not on AC
C_K suspecting of AC because he finds his logic about suspecting on Oz flawed, while AC agrees with RF on DG being suspicious.
Also, C_K and RF pressing against Azure almost from the beginning of the game with flimsy logic or evidence.

[Combo_Knight]

Or better yet PW, you could prove to me you haven’t been stringing us along ang keep me alive one more night.

Sorry, I took another look at the roles, and I just don’t see a role that both activates at night and will be super important for us to win

He is maybe implying that he could be the Gamer Girl or the Trap boy who can negate all the activities of the phase he skips.
Considering what AC posted about how useful it could be in his mind…

I know that AC has been batering with hims since day one after C_K went after Oz, but i still don’t feel that he has been misblamed as i do about Dark General.
Call me crazy, but my guts are telling me that the mafia has been trying to work in a way that they seem to agree in pairs in some “suspicious people” while at the same time disagree in others.
C_K and RF agreeing on Oz and DG but not on AC
C_K suspecting of AC because he finds his logic about suspecting on Oz flawed, while AC agrees with RF on DG being suspicious.
Also, C_K and RF pressing against Azure almost from the beginning of the game with flimsy logic or evidence.

Lol this conspiracy theory

Look if you wanna know my role all you had to do was ask.

[GodotsRevenge]

First off, that’s why I said to save the RC’s till the DAYTIME.
SAC, sorry I potentially got you killed by you trusting me. I didn’t see it till Augustus pointed it out.
Jones, if you had posted about 20 more times, actually been helpful when you spoke, and wern’t just marking posts with “like” and “insightful” I may have hesitated for more than a nanosecond before having you killed (if Azure is to be believed you were dead anyway.) As it stands I’m going to assume you’re Mafia, but like MP said you all need to play as if there are 4 Mafia members left.
Hecatom, if you ever get the name of the Swimmer, the Dark Lord, the Idol, or the Supermodel, REVEAL THEM. Any other role you should sit on unless it’s suspected the roles are Mafia.
If you have the Otaku’s name say you got his name BUT DON’T reveal it. The Otaku should contact Pimp (as hesitant as I am to say it.) If they do not by the end of this night phase assume they’re Mafia unless otherwise stated.
Assume the Monitor is Mafia. Assume the Gang Leader is civ, cause Azure would have possibly died if he was Mafia. Assume the Model is civ. Assume the Swimmer is Mafia. I’d assume Gamer Gurl is Mafia just cause she’s fucking dangerous, but that’s me. Also assume the Gambler may be Mafia.
Programmer, if you ever think there may be a double kill on a night, pop your ability. Stay on at the end of phases in case a kill is rushed.
Azure, tell your tracking results. Assume your target may be Mafia if it didn’t work or you followed the idol.
Pimp, with the Nurse gone your days are numbered. Start going in on everything and everyone. Protect Hecatom and Azure.
Missing, you have to be the civ rally point. Trust who you can trust, but make no friends.

I believe I died day uno thanks in part to my argument with DarkGeneral. Something either he said or I said must have tipped someone off and made me a threat. I’d be wary of him.
Chief has been more aloof all game than I’ve ever seen him be.
Hax has been acting off all game. He’s been trying to discredit me ever since my death. Watch him.
Augustus I feel I can trust more than any other unconfirmed civ (unless he sold out AC in one of the most badass plays ever.) Still, not 100% confirmed.
Watch which posts Jones liked and disliked. He was pretty sloppy about that in the PW game.
I’d watch Fuzz and Oz, as some people have stated.

And now what you’ve all been waiting for, my night 1 results.

Maizono autotuned AlphaCommando
Oogami protected The Chief and RadicalFuzz
You used your ability
Tsumiki nursed Pimp Willy
Koizumi paparazzi’d Pimp Willy
Genocider Syo killed BullDancer
Gundam used his ability
Mafia targeted Bious

The detective DID NOT INVESTIGATE NIGHT ONE. Take that how you will.
Good luck civs.

[Mobius]

Okay, that was surprising.
Our detective did not investigate?

PS: It’s a rhetorical question, there’s no need for answers.

[Hecatom]

Now i fear that our Detective is a damn Wallflower :shake:

[Combo_Knight]

I’d like to let Bious know that he has some good speculation

Gamer isn’t mafia.

[RadicalFuzz]

I know that AC has been batering with hims since day one after C_K went after Oz, but i still don’t feel that he has been misblamed as i do about Dark General.
Call me crazy, but my guts are telling me that the mafia has been trying to work in a way that they seem to agree in pairs in some “suspicious people” while at the same time disagree in others.
C_K and RF agreeing on Oz and DG but not on AC
C_K suspecting of AC because he finds his logic about suspecting on Oz flawed, while AC agrees with RF on DG being suspicious.
Also, C_K and RF pressing against Azure almost from the beginning of the game with flimsy logic or evidence.

Every time someone brings this up they can’t find any actual posts from me that support it. Where did I press Azure? I’m not sure I even addressed him until he was confirmed. The other parts though, I will admit do make a nice logical triangle of "Okay, you agree with me here but be sure to disagree with me later"
While I’m not Mafia and I can’t verify the validity of the triangle that’s very insightful Hecatom, nice job :tup:

The Detective didn’t investigate Night One

What the hell. I sincerely hope Bious is lying to protect the UC from Mafia. Freaking fun as hell role and you don’t even submit the action?

Stop eating the toast RF.

I don’t agree with everything you say and a lot of your posts are so long their almost convoluted but I respect your research so I’m not inclined to vote for you yet.

The last batch of role-claims was illadvised and sudden. So I refuse to take part in that. People need to play the game instead of letting the game play you.

I’m not asking you to roleclaim and wasn’t trying to imply that. I appreciate your respect, don’t get me wrong, but I can’t die yet as I haven’t killed a Mafia. In a game where the Mafia leader picks who to recruit, the penalty for not recruiting me is death. Since Alpha, the leader, is dead and I didn’t play a part in getting him killed I’ll just have to settle with another. I hope that others follow me, but if I get lynched it’s going to be with my finger pointed straight at you.
Lynch The Chief

@orochizoolander I’m not the Gambler, that post didn’t have any clues in it. I haven’t hinted towards my role all game and don’t plan on doing so unless I need to.

@Combo_Knight Pretty sure everyone who’s been reading the thread knows what your role is, or at least what you’ve been telling us it is. You’re not nearly as subtle as you think you are if you posted that much about it and still didn’t expect us to get it.

@Hecatom My post that you quoted where I asked 7 people about what they thought of DG, only Alpha and Augustus responded. Any thoughts on that?

[Combo_Knight]

I know that AC has been batering with hims since day one after C_K went after Oz, but i still don’t feel that he has been misblamed as i do about Dark General.
Call me crazy, but my guts are telling me that the mafia has been trying to work in a way that they seem to agree in pairs in some “suspicious people” while at the same time disagree in others.
C_K and RF agreeing on Oz and DG but not on AC
C_K suspecting of AC because he finds his logic about suspecting on Oz flawed, while AC agrees with RF on DG being suspicious.
Also, C_K and RF pressing against Azure almost from the beginning of the game with flimsy logic or evidence.

Every time someone brings this up they can’t find any actual posts from me that support it. Where did I press Azure? I’m not sure I even addressed him until he was confirmed. The other parts though, I will admit do make a nice logical triangle of "Okay, you agree with me here but be sure to disagree with me later"
While I’m not Mafia and I can’t verify the validity of the triangle that’s very insightful Hecatom, nice job :tup:

The Detective didn’t investigate Night One

What the hell. I sincerely hope Bious is lying to protect the UC from Mafia. Freaking fun as hell role and you don’t even submit the action?

Stop eating the toast RF.

I don’t agree with everything you say and a lot of your posts are so long their almost convoluted but I respect your research so I’m not inclined to vote for you yet.

The last batch of role-claims was illadvised and sudden. So I refuse to take part in that. People need to play the game instead of letting the game play you.

I’m not asking you to roleclaim and wasn’t trying to imply that. I appreciate your respect, don’t get me wrong, but I can’t die yet as I haven’t killed a Mafia. In a game where the Mafia leader picks who to recruit, the penalty for not recruiting me is death. Since Alpha, the leader, is dead and I didn’t play a part in getting him killed I’ll just have to settle with another. I hope that others follow me, but if I get lynched it’s going to be with my finger pointed straight at you.
Lynch The Chief

@Combo_Knight Pretty sure everyone who’s been reading the thread knows what your role is, or at least what you’ve been telling us it is. You’re not nearly as subtle as you think you are if you posted that much about it and still didn’t expect us to get it.

Who was looking for subtlty? I’m about as subtle as Hulks flowchart in MVC3

[RadicalFuzz]

I know that AC has been batering with hims since day one after C_K went after Oz, but i still don’t feel that he has been misblamed as i do about Dark General.
Call me crazy, but my guts are telling me that the mafia has been trying to work in a way that they seem to agree in pairs in some “suspicious people” while at the same time disagree in others.
C_K and RF agreeing on Oz and DG but not on AC
C_K suspecting of AC because he finds his logic about suspecting on Oz flawed, while AC agrees with RF on DG being suspicious.
Also, C_K and RF pressing against Azure almost from the beginning of the game with flimsy logic or evidence.

Every time someone brings this up they can’t find any actual posts from me that support it. Where did I press Azure? I’m not sure I even addressed him until he was confirmed. The other parts though, I will admit do make a nice logical triangle of "Okay, you agree with me here but be sure to disagree with me later"
While I’m not Mafia and I can’t verify the validity of the triangle that’s very insightful Hecatom, nice job :tup:

The Detective didn’t investigate Night One

What the hell. I sincerely hope Bious is lying to protect the UC from Mafia. Freaking fun as hell role and you don’t even submit the action?

Stop eating the toast RF.

I don’t agree with everything you say and a lot of your posts are so long their almost convoluted but I respect your research so I’m not inclined to vote for you yet.

The last batch of role-claims was illadvised and sudden. So I refuse to take part in that. People need to play the game instead of letting the game play you.

I’m not asking you to roleclaim and wasn’t trying to imply that. I appreciate your respect, don’t get me wrong, but I can’t die yet as I haven’t killed a Mafia. In a game where the Mafia leader picks who to recruit, the penalty for not recruiting me is death. Since Alpha, the leader, is dead and I didn’t play a part in getting him killed I’ll just have to settle with another. I hope that others follow me, but if I get lynched it’s going to be with my finger pointed straight at you.
Lynch The Chief

@Combo_Knight Pretty sure everyone who’s been reading the thread knows what your role is, or at least what you’ve been telling us it is. You’re not nearly as subtle as you think you are if you posted that much about it and still didn’t expect us to get it.

Who was looking for subtlty? I’m about as subtle as Hulks flowchart in MVC3

As long as you’re aware of it lol

[Combo_Knight]

I know that AC has been batering with hims since day one after C_K went after Oz, but i still don’t feel that he has been misblamed as i do about Dark General.
Call me crazy, but my guts are telling me that the mafia has been trying to work in a way that they seem to agree in pairs in some “suspicious people” while at the same time disagree in others.
C_K and RF agreeing on Oz and DG but not on AC
C_K suspecting of AC because he finds his logic about suspecting on Oz flawed, while AC agrees with RF on DG being suspicious.
Also, C_K and RF pressing against Azure almost from the beginning of the game with flimsy logic or evidence.

Every time someone brings this up they can’t find any actual posts from me that support it. Where did I press Azure? I’m not sure I even addressed him until he was confirmed. The other parts though, I will admit do make a nice logical triangle of "Okay, you agree with me here but be sure to disagree with me later"
While I’m not Mafia and I can’t verify the validity of the triangle that’s very insightful Hecatom, nice job :tup:

The Detective didn’t investigate Night One

What the hell. I sincerely hope Bious is lying to protect the UC from Mafia. Freaking fun as hell role and you don’t even submit the action?

Stop eating the toast RF.

I don’t agree with everything you say and a lot of your posts are so long their almost convoluted but I respect your research so I’m not inclined to vote for you yet.

The last batch of role-claims was illadvised and sudden. So I refuse to take part in that. People need to play the game instead of letting the game play you.

I’m not asking you to roleclaim and wasn’t trying to imply that. I appreciate your respect, don’t get me wrong, but I can’t die yet as I haven’t killed a Mafia. In a game where the Mafia leader picks who to recruit, the penalty for not recruiting me is death. Since Alpha, the leader, is dead and I didn’t play a part in getting him killed I’ll just have to settle with another. I hope that others follow me, but if I get lynched it’s going to be with my finger pointed straight at you.
Lynch The Chief

@Combo_Knight Pretty sure everyone who’s been reading the thread knows what your role is, or at least what you’ve been telling us it is. You’re not nearly as subtle as you think you are if you posted that much about it and still didn’t expect us to get it.

Who was looking for subtlty? I’m about as subtle as Hulks flowchart in MVC3

As long as you’re aware of it lol

I’m sure mafia is aware, that’s why you’ve been keeping me around

[RadicalFuzz]

I know that AC has been batering with hims since day one after C_K went after Oz, but i still don’t feel that he has been misblamed as i do about Dark General.
Call me crazy, but my guts are telling me that the mafia has been trying to work in a way that they seem to agree in pairs in some “suspicious people” while at the same time disagree in others.
C_K and RF agreeing on Oz and DG but not on AC
C_K suspecting of AC because he finds his logic about suspecting on Oz flawed, while AC agrees with RF on DG being suspicious.
Also, C_K and RF pressing against Azure almost from the beginning of the game with flimsy logic or evidence.

Every time someone brings this up they can’t find any actual posts from me that support it. Where did I press Azure? I’m not sure I even addressed him until he was confirmed. The other parts though, I will admit do make a nice logical triangle of "Okay, you agree with me here but be sure to disagree with me later"
While I’m not Mafia and I can’t verify the validity of the triangle that’s very insightful Hecatom, nice job :tup:

The Detective didn’t investigate Night One

What the hell. I sincerely hope Bious is lying to protect the UC from Mafia. Freaking fun as hell role and you don’t even submit the action?

Stop eating the toast RF.

I don’t agree with everything you say and a lot of your posts are so long their almost convoluted but I respect your research so I’m not inclined to vote for you yet.

The last batch of role-claims was illadvised and sudden. So I refuse to take part in that. People need to play the game instead of letting the game play you.

I’m not asking you to roleclaim and wasn’t trying to imply that. I appreciate your respect, don’t get me wrong, but I can’t die yet as I haven’t killed a Mafia. In a game where the Mafia leader picks who to recruit, the penalty for not recruiting me is death. Since Alpha, the leader, is dead and I didn’t play a part in getting him killed I’ll just have to settle with another. I hope that others follow me, but if I get lynched it’s going to be with my finger pointed straight at you.
Lynch The Chief

@Combo_Knight Pretty sure everyone who’s been reading the thread knows what your role is, or at least what you’ve been telling us it is. You’re not nearly as subtle as you think you are if you posted that much about it and still didn’t expect us to get it.

Who was looking for subtlty? I’m about as subtle as Hulks flowchart in MVC3

As long as you’re aware of it lol

I’m sure mafia is aware, that’s why you’ve been keeping me around

1. I’m not Mafia.
2. Why would the Mafia want the Gamer alive?

[Hecatom]

@Hecatom My post that you quoted where I asked 7 people about what they thought of DG, only Alpha and Augustus responded. Any thoughts on that?

TBH, DG, Oz and Augustus are still on my suspect list, but right now i want to press on the people that i feel more suspicious about, you, C_K and The Chief.
My main problem is that i have seen how you play, and the questions that you made to DG and the way that you reacted to them seem off. There are other stuff that i have noticed but i want to take my time to organize my thoughts about them.
I am preparing to go to the Aerosmith concert while finishing some stuff on my office so i wouldn’t be able to convey what i want to say clearly right now.

[The_Chief]

@RF

This is the game I’m NOT going to play with you RF.

As much as I see value in participation in this game, I also see desperation in your actions. If your vote for me results in my lynching, you’re most certainly next after my LG comes out.

This is day 3 and you’re strategy of trying to get rid of the powerful players asap is why you look as dirty as you do.

My attention is on wallflowers as they have proved to by a significant problem in any strategy or conversation we try to enact.

Why are you so persistent this game?

[Mobius]

How about learning about that Valedictorian?
(that was my 2nd post you quoted instead for some reason too)

You did more than anyone else did if they just didn’t list her or talk about it at all.

You can’t say someone didn’t warn you. You at the end of the game and getting triple killed like that in an OHKO, one character perfect sweep. OCV. Ochibi works for this game too with these schoolgirls!

“Suspicion” without your own suspect, reasons and just jumping on a bandwagon is losertalk!

How about learning about that Valedictorian?
(that was my 2nd post you quoted instead for some reason too)

You did more than anyone else did if they just didn’t list her or talk about it at all.

You can’t say someone didn’t warn you. You at the end of the game and getting triple killed like that in an OHKO, one character perfect sweep. OCV. Ochibi works for this game too with these schoolgirls!

“Suspicion” without your own suspect, reasons and just jumping on a bandwagon is losertalk!

Is the Valedictorian a female?

As for the broken tech PW proposed, I stated my opinion on it earlier. I think its better to read players instead of forcing roles to come forward and building a if/then block.

We now know that the Valedictorian is a female, now don’t we?
Honestly, it would be a pretty weak argument, but it’s odd, really~ odd.
I’ll be keeping an eye on WAH from now on.