Mobius:
Spoiler
orochizoolander:
Okay I JUST finished reading the rules in the other thread, trying to memorize the roles, AND read every post in this thread twice all the while forming random ideas as I went along took me like 3+ hours so fuck all of you lazy fucks who haven’t/won’t bother to put in the effort needed to win be you mafia or civ but especially civ.
@alphacommando why the fuck did you bother askign CK why he voting for me? I’m the most open minded of people (when you’re a nonstop, blunt chatter box who has a million different thoughts racing across your mind at any given moment being close minded isn’t an option lol) BUT it’s clear he’s just voting me because he’s still salty I exposed him as mafia last game =P. That being said him and @azure being suspicious of me because I’ve been quiet when every other game I’ve been super active and loud and obnoxious isn’t the most unreasonable thought, especially at this stage of the game where he have almost no solid intel.
I have so much to say I’m like mind fucked by all of you I have dozens of contradictory thoughts and suspicions about almost all of you, fuck all of you for making this game already require more work then the entirety of last game :lol:
I think some of you are focusing on the PW/MP shit a little too much, there are other nuggets to be mined from this thread, and more importantly alphacommando has the right idea, we should look at who the mafia leader or valedictorian what the fuck ever would be likely to recruit and go from there, that’s how we won last game.
I have no solid reads from anyone, but at the moment I’m leaning towards AC and @radicalfuzz being civ, although there’s always the “post a bunch of shit that on the surface looks insightful and useful but in reality is fluff” mafia angle they could be going for. As for my top strongest roles? I’ll have to think a bit more but will post before deadline.
Also it wasn’t until AC that I realized kigrirtiiiririririr role is the only hard civ in this game wow how did that slip by me? So for information purposes I’ll ask: What do you guys think the kigiri role should do? PLEASE WHOEVER YOU ARE DON’T FUCKING ROLE CLAIM YET PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!
ALSO PSYCHOPATH DONT KILL ANYONE YET DON’T FUCK THIS UP LIKE YOU ALWAYS DO!
This post was interesting to say the least.
On Day 1, Oz, I assumed that you were Togami/Civilian since you “seemed” to know who Genocider is,
However, Alpha was revealed to be Sonia/Mafia later on, someone who knows the identity of Genocider at the start of the game. This would also imply that the Mafia knows who Genocider is as well.
And to add to that, Hecatom has role claimed Togami/Civilian, so my theory on you being Togami/Civilian would be unlikely if he was who he claim he is.
That said, I’ll be assuming that you aren’t Togami/Civilian from this point on.
If you aren’t, then I find your familiarity with Genocider odd.
OZ was talking about the tendency of early Vigi kills to be uninformed and wrong. Often the Vigilante, if he kills every night, will be as much an asset for the Mafia as he is for the Civs.
Also, would being able to confirm another civilian be a good move right now? I can but I’m not sure if it’s the correct time. @Azure , PW, & MP what do you think?
To remain clear about my intentions:
Lynch orochizoolander
Mobius
October 4, 2013, 9:28pm
1603
RadicalFuzz:
Mobius:
Spoiler
orochizoolander:
Okay I JUST finished reading the rules in the other thread, trying to memorize the roles, AND read every post in this thread twice all the while forming random ideas as I went along took me like 3+ hours so fuck all of you lazy fucks who haven’t/won’t bother to put in the effort needed to win be you mafia or civ but especially civ.
@alphacommando why the fuck did you bother askign CK why he voting for me? I’m the most open minded of people (when you’re a nonstop, blunt chatter box who has a million different thoughts racing across your mind at any given moment being close minded isn’t an option lol) BUT it’s clear he’s just voting me because he’s still salty I exposed him as mafia last game =P. That being said him and @azure being suspicious of me because I’ve been quiet when every other game I’ve been super active and loud and obnoxious isn’t the most unreasonable thought, especially at this stage of the game where he have almost no solid intel.
I have so much to say I’m like mind fucked by all of you I have dozens of contradictory thoughts and suspicions about almost all of you, fuck all of you for making this game already require more work then the entirety of last game :lol:
I think some of you are focusing on the PW/MP shit a little too much, there are other nuggets to be mined from this thread, and more importantly alphacommando has the right idea, we should look at who the mafia leader or valedictorian what the fuck ever would be likely to recruit and go from there, that’s how we won last game.
I have no solid reads from anyone, but at the moment I’m leaning towards AC and @radicalfuzz being civ, although there’s always the “post a bunch of shit that on the surface looks insightful and useful but in reality is fluff” mafia angle they could be going for. As for my top strongest roles? I’ll have to think a bit more but will post before deadline.
Also it wasn’t until AC that I realized kigrirtiiiririririr role is the only hard civ in this game wow how did that slip by me? So for information purposes I’ll ask: What do you guys think the kigiri role should do? PLEASE WHOEVER YOU ARE DON’T FUCKING ROLE CLAIM YET PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!
ALSO PSYCHOPATH DONT KILL ANYONE YET DON’T FUCK THIS UP LIKE YOU ALWAYS DO!
This post was interesting to say the least.
On Day 1, Oz, I assumed that you were Togami/Civilian since you “seemed” to know who Genocider is,
However, Alpha was revealed to be Sonia/Mafia later on, someone who knows the identity of Genocider at the start of the game. This would also imply that the Mafia knows who Genocider is as well.
And to add to that, Hecatom has role claimed Togami/Civilian, so my theory on you being Togami/Civilian would be unlikely if he was who he claim he is.
That said, I’ll be assuming that you aren’t Togami/Civilian from this point on.
If you aren’t, then I find your familiarity with Genocider odd.
OZ was talking about the tendency of early Vigi kills to be uninformed and wrong. Often the Vigilante, if he kills every night, will be as much an asset for the Mafia as he is for the Civs.
Also, would being able to confirm another civilian be a good move right now? I can but I’m not sure if it’s the correct time. @Azure , PW, & MP what do you think?
I see, but I already took that into consideration.
I agree that it’s another perspective worth noting though.
Though it might not be a civilian player, we can confirm another civilian role among ourselves if one claimed to have been contacted by the Otaku. This would mean the Otaku is on our side without the need for anyone to role claim.
And if they lied about it, then 'tis quite obvious how the sequence of events would turn out.
The problem is, whether or not the Otaku has yet to contact anyone.
Awareness of the Otaku’s allegiance will help our Detective conduct her investigations accordingly.
I want make this game easier for her, if given the chance.
Mobius:
RadicalFuzz:
Mobius:
Spoiler
orochizoolander:
Okay I JUST finished reading the rules in the other thread, trying to memorize the roles, AND read every post in this thread twice all the while forming random ideas as I went along took me like 3+ hours so fuck all of you lazy fucks who haven’t/won’t bother to put in the effort needed to win be you mafia or civ but especially civ.
@alphacommando why the fuck did you bother askign CK why he voting for me? I’m the most open minded of people (when you’re a nonstop, blunt chatter box who has a million different thoughts racing across your mind at any given moment being close minded isn’t an option lol) BUT it’s clear he’s just voting me because he’s still salty I exposed him as mafia last game =P. That being said him and @azure being suspicious of me because I’ve been quiet when every other game I’ve been super active and loud and obnoxious isn’t the most unreasonable thought, especially at this stage of the game where he have almost no solid intel.
I have so much to say I’m like mind fucked by all of you I have dozens of contradictory thoughts and suspicions about almost all of you, fuck all of you for making this game already require more work then the entirety of last game :lol:
I think some of you are focusing on the PW/MP shit a little too much, there are other nuggets to be mined from this thread, and more importantly alphacommando has the right idea, we should look at who the mafia leader or valedictorian what the fuck ever would be likely to recruit and go from there, that’s how we won last game.
I have no solid reads from anyone, but at the moment I’m leaning towards AC and @radicalfuzz being civ, although there’s always the “post a bunch of shit that on the surface looks insightful and useful but in reality is fluff” mafia angle they could be going for. As for my top strongest roles? I’ll have to think a bit more but will post before deadline.
Also it wasn’t until AC that I realized kigrirtiiiririririr role is the only hard civ in this game wow how did that slip by me? So for information purposes I’ll ask: What do you guys think the kigiri role should do? PLEASE WHOEVER YOU ARE DON’T FUCKING ROLE CLAIM YET PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!
ALSO PSYCHOPATH DONT KILL ANYONE YET DON’T FUCK THIS UP LIKE YOU ALWAYS DO!
This post was interesting to say the least.
On Day 1, Oz, I assumed that you were Togami/Civilian since you “seemed” to know who Genocider is,
However, Alpha was revealed to be Sonia/Mafia later on, someone who knows the identity of Genocider at the start of the game. This would also imply that the Mafia knows who Genocider is as well.
And to add to that, Hecatom has role claimed Togami/Civilian, so my theory on you being Togami/Civilian would be unlikely if he was who he claim he is.
That said, I’ll be assuming that you aren’t Togami/Civilian from this point on.
If you aren’t, then I find your familiarity with Genocider odd.
OZ was talking about the tendency of early Vigi kills to be uninformed and wrong. Often the Vigilante, if he kills every night, will be as much an asset for the Mafia as he is for the Civs.
Also, would being able to confirm another civilian be a good move right now? I can but I’m not sure if it’s the correct time. @Azure , PW, & MP what do you think?
I see, but I already took that into consideration.
I agree that it’s another perspective worth noting though.
Though it might not be a civilian player, we can confirm another civilian role among ourselves if one claimed to have been contacted by the Otaku. This would mean the Otaku is on our side without the need for anyone to role claim.
And if they lied about it, then 'tis quite obvious how the sequence of events would turn out.
The problem is, whether or not the Otaku has yet to contact anyone.
I wasn’t talking about the Otaku’s PM ability, but I can confirm that I have not been contacted by the Otaku.
OK, I actually found some interesting OZ stuff with some research. Nothing really resembling a role claim, save for one post I provide below. A LOT of bitching about how long the thread is, how he’s overwhelmed right now but will eventually contribute, etc. It’s pretty suspicious to me, but I agree that it’s also so off-the-wall that it could be pain meds. But right now I’m thinking it’s suspicious, because as PW always says, this is a game of DECEPTION.
Suspicious stuff:
Spoiler
orochizoolander:
@radicalfuzz GTFO, “didn’t see it” just because I asked a question? man I just told you I spent 3+ hours on this thread I wanted to know you you and others wanted him not why I should vote for him myself. And I thought you were joking guess not but my answer to your question is darkgeneral would get dat vote with the quickness.
@azure Interesting.
Looks like MP is dead, okay I’m voting Pimp Willy …it will spark some interesting debate between us next round, and on the off chance he is mafia and gets more votes n dies then woot. Also who the fuck decided to make 5 players mafia instead of 4? that’s over 25% as someone said before these powers really skew things in ways we can’t comprehend until we progress but numbers alone HEAVILY favor mafia.
Oh we have to PM vote to GR…hmm interesting well I’ll hold off until 9:30 just to see what PW has to say for himself =).
Also if MP dies and is confirmed ghost civ, and assuming only 1 medic is mafia then maybe the UC should roleclaim THEN and we can protect him with a combo of powers as suggested earlier? just a thought to throw out there ** UC DO NOT EXPOSE YOURSELF THIS IS A BRAIN FART PLEASE DON’T BE DUMB…ESPECIALLY YOU PSYCHOPATH DON’T USE YOUR POWER TILL UR SURE!**
Potential RC stuff (not that I know what it means):
Spoiler
orochizoolander:
Soooooo I have to choose between a game full of otaku fags or DnD fags…hmmmm I choose the dark souls mafia game option. JK =P Don’t lynch me!
Everyone voted for MP I mean I’ll just be hopping on the band wagon at this point, I’d like to look to the future before vote results come in. If MP is civ is PW lynched next just to cover bases? is he exonerated? I’m trying to play this game out long term not just see what’s immediately ahead.
Well I would have to review my notes and the last 10 pages to give you something more solid so for right now I’ll just go with the currently living players with the lowest amount of post which would be Doofenshmirtz, forgedigger and infrequent lur-
Fuck!
And just to clarify, the only reason I see RC in that role claim is because he talks about otakus, rejecting otakus and joining the “dark souls mafia game option.” I don’t know anything about Dark Souls. Are any of the characters there similar to characters in this game? Is there any other evidence? Or is his claim that he’s subtly RCing just BS?
Argh. “the only reason I see RC in that post”
pietastic:
And just to clarify, the only reason I see RC in that role claim is because he talks about otakus, rejecting otakus and joining the “dark souls mafia game option.” I don’t know anything about Dark Souls. Are any of the characters there similar to characters in this game? Is there any other evidence? Or is his claim that he’s subtly RCing just BS?
Dark Souls is kinda based around Medieval times, and the closest character type from there would probably be Gandamu, the Dark Lord guy. It’s a huge stretch though, so I doubt he was saying that.
I just realized, by voting for DG yesterday I missed out on the point for voting for a Mafia. That makes me sadder than it honestly should.
Notes? You have notes? If you’ve been doing some research on your own, even if its half-baked, please share it. I’m still not sure how to best interpret OZ’s posts, for instance. We need to help each other out to root out the mafia.
Mobius
October 4, 2013, 9:58pm
1613
RadicalFuzz:
pietastic:
And just to clarify, the only reason I see RC in that role claim is because he talks about otakus, rejecting otakus and joining the “dark souls mafia game option.” I don’t know anything about Dark Souls. Are any of the characters there similar to characters in this game? Is there any other evidence? Or is his claim that he’s subtly RCing just BS?
Dark Souls is kinda based around Medieval times, and the closest character type from there would probably be Gandamu, the Dark Lord guy. It’s a huge stretch though, so I doubt he was saying that.
I just realized, by voting for DG yesterday I missed out on the point for voting for a Mafia. That makes me sadder than it honestly should.
Well, if DG was a mafia and you voted for him, you’d potentially gain 1 point, I think.
The hell did I do? And why does everyone always use that video when they’re mad at me?
@Pimp Willy : I’m a civ sensei!
I had to study for an exam this morning and I wasn’t able to use my shut-in ability. I was catching up with the last 3 or so pages of the thread and I read up to the point that I died 1 hour after reading it… shit!
You were too busy shut-in studying to shut-in ability? A likely story.
That’s true. GodotsRevenge, retcon DarkGeneral to be Mafia if he isn’t already so I can get my point
Sumazndude wasn’t a random target if you actually think about it. I think some of you went over my post so I’ll re-post:
Augustus:
Going through the posts before Alpha’s lynch (more like skimming, so sorry if I missed anything), it looks like Augustus, Azure, The Chief, pietastic, and Sumazndude were the most adamant about lynching Alpha despite the introduction of the whole “Bious could be Mafia” theory.
Out of those five players he was the most sure of himself:
He ignored the potential possibilities of Bious being Mafia. Why? Because Bious confirmed that he protected Pimp Willy.
Now, those who have played with Sumazndude before know that he has a tendency to not be as helpful as some of us would like. But he was actually putting himself out there this time because he has an important role and didn’t want to die from the wallflower lynches. Likely, a Mafia who is familiar with his playstyle took notice and ended up killing him. Who’s both familiar with him and hasn’t been sitting well with me since Day 2?
RadicalFuzz.
Plus, I believe he said that I was a confirmed civilian at one point:
RadicalFuzz:
Bious’s solution to the Otaku question never occurred to me. However I still hold that my idea in itself isn’t bad but in context of having to wait until night is. Let’s assume that the Otaku is using the “random civilian” aspect of his ability for this hypothetical scenario. Bious uses ESP and sees that the Otaku used the ability on you. Assuming that the Otaku was acting as we told him to and used the “random civ” ability, that would confirm you as civilian and, if need be, you could confirm the identity and allegiance of the Otaku. Possible net gain of 2 confirmed civvies, only one of which would have to reveal his role to be confirmed. Bious’s idea of having the Otaku PM a confirmed civilian like Pimp or you is good as well, but there can only be a net gain of one confirmed civilian , and the Otaku’s identity would have to be revealed for it to be effective.
I am definitely not confirmed yet. Slip-up? Or am I reading things incorrectly?
Regardless, Lynch RadicalFuzz .
Pssst AlphaCommando, can I borrow a Teru card?
Augustus:
Sumazndude wasn’t a random target if you actually think about it. I think some of you went over my post so I’ll re-post:
Augustus:
Going through the posts before Alpha’s lynch (more like skimming, so sorry if I missed anything), it looks like Augustus, Azure, The Chief, pietastic, and Sumazndude were the most adamant about lynching Alpha despite the introduction of the whole “Bious could be Mafia” theory.
Out of those five players he was the most sure of himself:
He ignored the potential possibilities of Bious being Mafia. Why? Because Bious confirmed that he protected Pimp Willy.
Now, those who have played with Sumazndude before know that he has a tendency to not be as helpful as some of us would like. But he was actually putting himself out there this time because he has an important role and didn’t want to die from the wallflower lynches. Likely, a Mafia who is familiar with his playstyle took notice and ended up killing him. Who’s both familiar with him and hasn’t been sitting well with me since Day 2?
RadicalFuzz.
Plus, I believe he said that I was a confirmed civilian at one point:
RadicalFuzz:
Bious’s solution to the Otaku question never occurred to me. However I still hold that my idea in itself isn’t bad but in context of having to wait until night is. Let’s assume that the Otaku is using the “random civilian” aspect of his ability for this hypothetical scenario. Bious uses ESP and sees that the Otaku used the ability on you. Assuming that the Otaku was acting as we told him to and used the “random civ” ability, that would confirm you as civilian and, if need be, you could confirm the identity and allegiance of the Otaku. Possible net gain of 2 confirmed civvies, only one of which would have to reveal his role to be confirmed. Bious’s idea of having the Otaku PM a confirmed civilian like Pimp or you is good as well, but there can only be a net gain of one confirmed civilian , and the Otaku’s identity would have to be revealed for it to be effective.
I am definitely not confirmed yet. Slip-up? Or am I reading things incorrectly?
Regardless, Lynch RadicalFuzz .
Damn that’s a good read on SAM… kind of makes me feel like a douche for missing that and not protecting him
Augustus:
Sumazndude wasn’t a random target if you actually think about it. I think some of you went over my post so I’ll re-post:
Augustus:
Going through the posts before Alpha’s lynch (more like skimming, so sorry if I missed anything), it looks like Augustus, Azure, The Chief, pietastic, and Sumazndude were the most adamant about lynching Alpha despite the introduction of the whole “Bious could be Mafia” theory.
Out of those five players he was the most sure of himself:
He ignored the potential possibilities of Bious being Mafia. Why? Because Bious confirmed that he protected Pimp Willy.
Now, those who have played with Sumazndude before know that he has a tendency to not be as helpful as some of us would like. But he was actually putting himself out there this time because he has an important role and didn’t want to die from the wallflower lynches. Likely, a Mafia who is familiar with his playstyle took notice and ended up killing him. Who’s both familiar with him and hasn’t been sitting well with me since Day 2?
RadicalFuzz.
Plus, I believe he said that I was a confirmed civilian at one point:
RadicalFuzz:
Bious’s solution to the Otaku question never occurred to me. However I still hold that my idea in itself isn’t bad but in context of having to wait until night is. Let’s assume that the Otaku is using the “random civilian” aspect of his ability for this hypothetical scenario. Bious uses ESP and sees that the Otaku used the ability on you. Assuming that the Otaku was acting as we told him to and used the “random civ” ability, that would confirm you as civilian and, if need be, you could confirm the identity and allegiance of the Otaku. Possible net gain of 2 confirmed civvies, only one of which would have to reveal his role to be confirmed. Bious’s idea of having the Otaku PM a confirmed civilian like Pimp or you is good as well, but there can only be a net gain of one confirmed civilian , and the Otaku’s identity would have to be revealed for it to be effective.
I am definitely not confirmed yet. Slip-up? Or am I reading things incorrectly?
Regardless, Lynch RadicalFuzz .
Dear lord, not this again. You know those two words “hypothetical scenario”, they’re kind of important. That means that the scenario I am describing is not necessarily based on the current game state.
“Assuming that the Otaku was acting as we told him to and used the ‘random civ’ ability, that would confirm you as civilian and, if need be, you could confirm the identity and allegiance of the Otaku” is what you’re talking about right? Replace “you” with “the target of the PM” and two things happen:
You look like an idiot for not realizing that
The sentence gets insanely convoluted and difficult to read
Good job on finding this part though, it hadn’t occurred to me:
Now, those who have played with Sumazndude before know that he has a tendency to not be as helpful as some of us would like. But he was actually putting himself out there this time because he has an important role and didn’t want to die from the wallflower lynches. Likely, a Mafia who is familiar with his playstyle took notice and ended up killing him. Who’s both familiar with him and hasn’t been sitting well with me since Day 2?
For the sake of completion, let’s list everyone who’s played in a game with sumazndude, or General Stupidity on the Invision site. I think it’s:
-RadicalFuzz
-Augustus/Roman
-Mobius
-Synonym
-Azure (civ)
-One of the TF2 games (RED, I think)
Now let’s list everyone who’s read a game with sumazndude:
-Fuck if I know
The same accusations of “was aware that SAD was acting differently” could be brought against anyone. The fact that sumazndude is one of my best friends IRL doesn’t mean I necessarily understand his mindset when it comes to this game. And if I’m appearing “off” to you then explain. Why only since Day 2?
It would just take an experienced player to make that read, or somebody that we underestimate. It wouldn’t have to be somebody he has played with before.