SRK Mafia X -- Dangan Ronpa: Fire At Will -- END -- Civilians Win

[Synonym]

But what if Bious is telling the truth and AC ends being a civ if lynched then what?
Right now i feel that even when reasonable and totally logic to have doubts about Bious veracity, i think that you are overcomplicating it.

Now, i agree that the gambler should avoid using his ability today, since we don’t have any type of certainty that even if Bious is telling the truth, that AC is a mafia.
Like i said the pay off in the long run is not really worth it, since it tells us right away almost all their roles in a single play, and in order to totally work, they need to have a specific combination of roles.
If for example they don’t have the real Fuka or Fortune teller, those who have the roles could certainly blow their strategy.
Right now there is only one player (you) with their role revealed to everyone, so it could be safe for anyone of those 2 to come out and still we wouldnt have to deal with the triple kill, unless of course the Val can use it on a walking dead like Bious and or with their own?

I said this earlier, but who were the main suspects immediately after the night phase ended? From memory it was PW, RF, Doof, CK, OZ & DG. Some of these players seem to have fallen between the cracks once Alpha was implicated. Do we need to revisit our suspicion of them?

[AlphaCommando]

No, it absolutely guarantees it.

The Nurse cannot protect unless the Medic already has, or is Mafia.

Since the Nurse protected day one, that means the Medic is Mafia.

Ahh. In that case Nurse, never role claim. The mafia could potentially use the switch-a-roo power with Syo and bypass PW’s protection on you.

Like Alpha was fatkid is some strange possibility on the other side. He contacted a Mafia, they know who he is now and forged him wasting that skill for the night?

-in all this looking into “how else besides if he was Mafia would he have a reason to be forged?”

• pure randomly being forged or Mafia knowing he has a role that’s not just a Mafia teammate are the others.

So wait, are we thinking that Alpha is the Forger, the Otaku or some other role?

Personally I argued that it could have been mafia framing up a known outspoken player. Alpha hasn’t been as prolific as say PW, RF, MP in this thread but he has been contributing a lot more than others. If they framed him it would be plausible for people on both ends of the posting spectrum to believe that he was mafia. Being the Otaku he would have to have been really unlucky to have chosen a player who was mafia to have a conversation with. Personally, I’d use the role to get assigned a random juror so that I’d be guaranteed an ally in the thread.

probably Fukawa to throw off Syo’s credibility

Are you saying that I’m Fukawa Mafia and they tried to change my innocent result to guilty, or are you saying that I’m Fukawa Civ and they knew my role?

[Hecatom]

But what if Bious is telling the truth and AC ends being a civ if lynched then what?
Right now i feel that even when reasonable and totally logic to have doubts about Bious veracity, i think that you are overcomplicating it.

Now, i agree that the gambler should avoid using his ability today, since we don’t have any type of certainty that even if Bious is telling the truth, that AC is a mafia.
Like i said the pay off in the long run is not really worth it, since it tells us right away almost all their roles in a single play, and in order to totally work, they need to have a specific combination of roles.
If for example they don’t have the real Fuka or Fortune teller, those who have the roles could certainly blow their strategy.
Right now there is only one player (you) with their role revealed to everyone, so it could be safe for anyone of those 2 to come out and still we wouldnt have to deal with the triple kill, unless of course the Val can use it on a walking dead like Bious and or with their own?

I said this earlier, but who were the main suspects immediately after the night phase ended? From memory it was PW, RF, Doof, CK, OZ & DG. Some of these players seem to have fallen between the cracks once Alpha was implicated. Do we need to revisit our suspicion of them?

As usual i think that we need to look at every place, we have a lot of wallflowers
I think that we can afford to have AC at least one more day before trying anything, there are other suspects that need to be brought under the light.
Doof, OZ, CK, Cyntalan and all the wallflowers.

We are focusing too much on the roles and while i think that is very important on this game, we also need to make good reads on the players.
The wallflowers make it more easy for the mafia to blend.

[Azure]

But what if Bious is telling the truth and AC ends being a civ if lynched then what?
Right now i feel that even when reasonable and totally logic to have doubts about Bious veracity, i think that you are overcomplicating it.

Now, i agree that the gambler should avoid using his ability today, since we don’t have any type of certainty that even if Bious is telling the truth, that AC is a mafia.
Like i said the pay off in the long run is not really worth it, since it tells us right away almost all their roles in a single play, and in order to totally work, they need to have a specific combination of roles.
If for example they don’t have the real Fuka or Fortune teller, those who have the roles could certainly blow their strategy.
Right now there is only one player (you) with their role revealed to everyone, so it could be safe for anyone of those 2 to come out and still we wouldnt have to deal with the triple kill, unless of course the Val can use it on a walking dead like Bious and or with their own?

I said this earlier, but who were the main suspects immediately after the night phase ended? From memory it was PW, RF, Doof, CK, OZ & DG. Some of these players seem to have fallen between the cracks once Alpha was implicated. Do we need to revisit our suspicion of them?

As usual i think that we need to look at every place, we have a lot of wallflowers
I think that we can afford to have AC at least one more day before trying anything, there are other suspects that need to be brought under the light.
Doof, OZ, CK, Cyntalan and all the wallflowers.

We are focusing too much on the roles and while i think that is very important on this game, we also need to make good reads on the players.
The wallflowers make it more easy for the mafia to blend.

If it did not go against my modus operandi, I’d like button the ever living fuck out of this post.

[Bious]

I still cannot believe that the Mafia did not nab the Medics.

What is the thinking behind this?

It goes beyond being a neophyte mistake, because even a neophyte would see the advantage of nabbing them.

That said, it would seem to indicate a deep, elaborate plan, by a mastermind.

If so, what could it be?

Thoughts?

So far we know the Idol is Mafia, and the Hall Monit"O"r has a high chance of being one as well.

The Detective, Fortune Teller (Me), Fighter, Coach, Murderer, Average Joe, Luckster, and whatever that Dark God guy is are all civ.

I’m sure maybe some of you guys noticed, but the game’s on page 21 already and shit.

I spelled it “moniter” before and felt bad.
How’d I know someone was gonna make something outta that…

I still stand by lynching AC this phase. If Mafia needed to forge someone to screw up an investigation I don’t believe he’d be a priority target for that.

Pimp, stop over thinking. If I gave my results before you said who you protected you’d be in the position you’re trying to put me in and we’d be worse off than we are right now.

[Synonym]

As usual i think that we need to look at every place, we have a lot of wallflowers
I think that we can afford to have AC at least one more day before trying anything, there are other suspects that need to be brought under the light.
Doof, OZ, CK, Cyntalan and all the wallflowers.

We are focusing too much on the roles and while i think that is very important on this game, we also need to make good reads on the players.
The wallflowers make it more easy for the mafia to blend.

What has Cyntalan done to earn suspicion? To be honest, I haven’t even really noticed him at all this game.

[Hecatom]

I forgot to strongly suggest that the gambler (if is on our side) don’t use you ability until we have strong reads or have a detailed lists form one (or more) of our detectives.

[Hecatom]

…so it could be safe for anyone of those 2 to come out and still we wouldnt have to deal with the triple kill, unless of course the Val can use it on a walking dead like Bious and or with their own?

About this, i think that it could be useful if @GodotsRevenge could tell us if the Val can use the triple kill on Bious that is already dead in a way, or if he can use one of the mafia to make the sacrifice (the later is more than not possible imo, but it will be good to know)

[AlphaCommando]

I forgot to strongly suggest that the gambler (if is on our side) don’t use you ability until we have strong reads or have a detailed lists form one (or more) of our detectives.

Is that a safe option? We know that Maizono is on the Mafia side, so it’ll be hard to fully trust Kirigiri’s results.

[RadicalFuzz]

I said this earlier, but who were the main suspects immediately after the night phase ended? From memory it was PW, RF, Doof, CK, OZ & DG. Some of these players seem to have fallen between the cracks once Alpha was implicated. Do we need to revisit our suspicion of them?

Good point.

@orochizoolander do you think Alpha is Mafia or Civilian, assuming that Bious is telling the truth?

@DarkGeneral Let’s say you learned that another player was civilian who was in line to be lynched. How would you respond in the thread?

@AlphaCommando I think I understand what you’re saying. Would you be confident enough in your choice to activate your ability today?

[Hecatom]

As usual i think that we need to look at every place, we have a lot of wallflowers
I think that we can afford to have AC at least one more day before trying anything, there are other suspects that need to be brought under the light.
Doof, OZ, CK, Cyntalan and all the wallflowers.

We are focusing too much on the roles and while i think that is very important on this game, we also need to make good reads on the players.
The wallflowers make it more easy for the mafia to blend.

What has Cyntalan done to earn suspicion? To be honest, I haven’t even really noticed him at all this game.

Mostly previous experiences, i can only recall one time where he was mafia and not a wallflower, otherwise he hiding it among the quiet ones is consistent with his mafia play, and that i strongly think that wallflowers in general can be a liability for the civs.

[RadicalFuzz]

…so it could be safe for anyone of those 2 to come out and still we wouldnt have to deal with the triple kill, unless of course the Val can use it on a walking dead like Bious and or with their own?

About this, i think that it could be useful if @GodotsRevenge could tell us if the Val can use the triple kill on Bious that is already dead in a way, or if he can use one of the mafia to make the sacrifice (the later is more than not possible imo, but it will be good to know)

I would assume that there’s no restrictions on who the Mafia targets with the triple kill ability. Thinking on it, that would also trigger Komaeda’s win condition, since he was killed by the Mafia at night. Interesting.

[Hecatom]

I forgot to strongly suggest that the gambler (if is on our side) don’t use you ability until we have strong reads or have a detailed lists form one (or more) of our detectives.

Is that a safe option? We know that Maizono is on the Mafia side, so it’ll be hard to fully trust Kirigiri’s results.

True, but even then, we will know who is mafia and who is civ based on the abilities on play, for the major part of the roles anyway, there is also the chance that we have Byakuya and Mahiru on our side, so they can also bring some light if needed and if we have them

[AlphaCommando]

@AlphaCommando I think I understand what you’re saying. Would you be confident enough in your choice to activate your ability today?

I’d prefer to delay it for as long as possible, but I don’t think I have much time left.

[GodotsRevenge]

…so it could be safe for anyone of those 2 to come out and still we wouldnt have to deal with the triple kill, unless of course the Val can use it on a walking dead like Bious and or with their own?

About this, i think that it could be useful if @GodotsRevenge could tell us if the Val can use the triple kill on Bious that is already dead in a way, or if he can use one of the mafia to make the sacrifice (the later is more than not possible imo, but it will be good to know)

No. Bious is for all practical purposes, dead.

[Hecatom]

…so it could be safe for anyone of those 2 to come out and still we wouldnt have to deal with the triple kill, unless of course the Val can use it on a walking dead like Bious and or with their own?

About this, i think that it could be useful if @GodotsRevenge could tell us if the Val can use the triple kill on Bious that is already dead in a way, or if he can use one of the mafia to make the sacrifice (the later is more than not possible imo, but it will be good to know)

I would assume that there’s no restrictions on who the Mafia targets with the triple kill ability. Thinking on it, that would also trigger Komaeda’s win condition, since he was killed by the Mafia at night. Interesting.

Wan’t the Roless the one who died?

[Hecatom]

*Wasn’t

[Azure]

Until tomorrow, people.

[Mobius]

…so it could be safe for anyone of those 2 to come out and still we wouldnt have to deal with the triple kill, unless of course the Val can use it on a walking dead like Bious and or with their own?

About this, i think that it could be useful if @GodotsRevenge could tell us if the Val can use the triple kill on Bious that is already dead in a way, or if he can use one of the mafia to make the sacrifice (the later is more than not possible imo, but it will be good to know)

I would assume that there’s no restrictions on who the Mafia targets with the triple kill ability. Thinking on it, that would also trigger Komaeda’s win condition, since he was killed by the Mafia at night. Interesting.

If that is possible, then there is the possibility of him role-claiming to fulfill the 3/3 requirements of the mafia when have 2 present role claimants to worry about.

[RadicalFuzz]

…so it could be safe for anyone of those 2 to come out and still we wouldnt have to deal with the triple kill, unless of course the Val can use it on a walking dead like Bious and or with their own?

About this, i think that it could be useful if @GodotsRevenge could tell us if the Val can use the triple kill on Bious that is already dead in a way, or if he can use one of the mafia to make the sacrifice (the later is more than not possible imo, but it will be good to know)

I would assume that there’s no restrictions on who the Mafia targets with the triple kill ability. Thinking on it, that would also trigger Komaeda’s win condition, since he was killed by the Mafia at night. Interesting.

Wan’t the Roless the one who died?

BullDancer was roleless, but he died to a normal Mafia kill. I was talking about the Valedictorian’s 3-role kill ability and how there don’t appear to be any restrictions on using it on Mafia. So, if the Valedictorian really wanted to be a dick, he could triple kill his team.