SRK Competitive Pokemon Battling Thread: Logoghoul and White Shadow Win! Bye Gen 6!

It allows it to transform immediately, without using the move.

What’s your new FC?

Ditto can Transform into Mega Evolved Pokemon… Revenge killing shenanigans will now ramp up 100x

although greninja and talonflame could keep blaziken in check, it’s probably still ridiculous

baton pass on speed boost blaziken basically allows blaziken to gives it’s counters the middle finger and pass on it’s speed boosts to another pokemon…allowing that guy to now sweep

while yes, you can do the same thing with ninjask, ninjask definitely does not have the offensive presence that blaziken has, especially when blaziken can do it with 2 moves (ninjask can’t 2HKO everything even after a speed boost)

just check blaziken with mewtwo

[jk just play the blaziken mirror]

Or run Ditto, use sticky web, trap it, Gale Wing Talonflame…

MegaGengar vs. MegaBlaziken… THE RUMBLE IN THE POKE JUNGLE!

Chandelure gives Blaziken problems too. It would have to start carrying Shadow Claw to be a threat.
Trick Room give it the middle finger as well.

Blaziken is just like any other high-priority threat, except more predictable- Protect/Swords Dance/Flare Blitz/HJK sometimes Shadow Claw, but either way very easy to see coming and plan around.

I still lol at the fact that Blaziken used to get shit on by Smogon, now its more feared than Gen VI Garchomp…

all of those are checks and none of them can switch into him safely

talonflame has to hope SR isn’t out (and when using blaziken…it probably will be)
ditto i’m pretty sure gets OHKO’d on the switch in
sticky web to my knowledge is only usable by the spiders, who both get rocked by blaziken
chandelure, unless scarfed, can’t do crap to blaziken (baton pass)

everything else just straight up gets demolished, although i’m pretty sure you guys wouldn’t mind doing a complex ban just to use blaziken without speed boost (which would be welcomed)

Sure is smashboards up in here…

Also, curious, as somebody who never got into competitive pokemon but has been a fan of the series… it just seems so shallow. Am I wrong?

it’s by far from shallow

Completely.

Pretty much you just said the same assertion as those who think all fighters are button mashers.

Which is why I’m going to write guides. But I really don’t know if I should until I get my hands on X/Y and revise everything to incorporate Gen VI.

You might as well wait a little bit Saitsu… it seems something new gets discovered every other day.

Like how now Pokemon can re-learn forgotten Egg Moves through the Move Relearner.

Apparently, Blaziken has six moves and a full team and I’m only using one of its checks to stop it. I guess Blaziken is the most overpowered Pokemon since R/B/Y Amnesia Mewtwo(who also carried six moves for all its checks)…

Any fighter that requires special rules and restrictions in order to be competitive isn’t worth the time.

With all the required rules to make Pokemon playable, what’s the difference?

Items Off
Final Destination
Fox only

or

No Evasion
Weather Restrictions
OU only

same shit, different day

So I’m guessing you despised Melee at Evo and wished they didn’t waste time on it?

I watched it on finals days, it was entertaining enough, but even then people bitched about wobbling being overpowered. I’d much rather have seen ST in it’s place or a lot of other deserving games, but I like that it brought in a new audience.

But yes, I was definitely on the all brawl side of the debate when Brawl released

Well I’d like to see a ton of different games over…well, all the games now. But it was voted by the people.

And to your condescending post from before, we’re testing it all. At most, the cover Legendaries + Mewtwo will be gone and that’s it. And if people scoff at that, I’ll just point them toward boss character usage in games like CvS2. Or lack thereof.

Fuck baton pass speed boost blaziken, belly drum aqua jet azumarill is usable now >:)

It’s shallow. Ultimately, for all the attempts to ban accuracy debuffs/evasion buffs, the series is still about dice rolling.

There could be depth, if Game Freak gave a shit.

flare blitz
high jump kick
swords dance/protect
baton pass/protect

that’s all he needs to decimate teams, good luck

There was nothing condescending about it, but I find it hilarious that you get so defensive about it all the same.

No it was definitely condescending. You pretty much said that we’re wasting our time.

But I’ll say Specs is right on one thing. Still too much dice rolling, but it’s impossible to get the series away from that. If you made everything 100% accurate and no Crit Hax, then things would just be incredibly boring.

So who knows, maybe it’s not meant for it. But there are plenty of things that weren’t meant for competitive…anything, and yet people found a way to make it work.