SRK Competitive Pokemon Battling Thread: Logoghoul and White Shadow Win! Bye Gen 6!

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I need to make a list of changes when I get a chance.

Do you mean like Some Mega Evo stones (like X and Y Charizard?)

Now that I think about it, Pickup users may be able to get some Leftovers.

Gah! Why does GF get so much right and wrong simultaneously?!

You know damn well people would complain if it was a BP buy only item as well.

Ah, nothing like Generation VI: Fuck Dragons Edition.

eh, if yall are going to run an event should post a banlist early as possible

my suggestion would be mewtwo, xerneas, yveltal, zygarde, articuno, zapdos, moltres. :0

Why would you ban the Legendary Birds?

Woah now, even if I was making a banlist the birds wouldn’t belong anywhere on it, and Zygarde is extremely debatable (as it is right now with those stats.)

Hmm… Did Frisk always give away both items in doubles?

they’re legendary

Regigigas is also Legendary.

They’re not much stronger than some regular Pokemon, though. Only the cover legendaries and event ones deserve to get banned.

The Trios are cool.

Legendaries don’t automatically equal broken. Solid stats and overpowered stats are 2 different things. There are “normal” pokemon with matching or higher base stats than the Legendary birds.

so? “if it’s legendary, it should be banned” is a very simple, consistent, and not something you can tamper with. you don’t have to gauge things.

if you have a rule like “if it’s legendary, it should be banned” then yes, regigigas should be banned.

That’s not the rule, though… Just because it’s legendary lore-wise doesn’t mean it’s extremely powerful. No reason to ban them.

if you’re banning based on power then you create an arbitary line of banning.

if you are going to create an arbitrary line of banning i want to know what it is.

If we ban Legendaries on a rule that avoids bias, then it’d be banning Cover Legendaries as pretty much all of them are busted as it is (your feelings on Black Kyurem notwithstanding).

If you’re banning the birds, you might as well ban all the trios, all the small legendaries(i.e. Mew, Celebi, Jirachi, etc.), and Goodra/Hydreigon/Garchomp/Salamence/Tyranitar/Dragonite/Metagross…

I’m not down with banning like that, especially since Mega Evolution puts those guys on par or better than all the mons I just mentioned. Or do you want to ban Mega Evolution too?

See why universal bans start treading down that slippery slope territory?

yes, ban all legendaries, but why pseudo legendaries lol. and who said anything about mega evolution?

yes, ban the trios, yes ban the covers… if you want a simple banlist it’s by far the easiest to implement. not to mention it helps with the pre pokebank access.

I dont see how a universal ban would tread down a slippery slope territory at all. it’s not a ban on effectiveness, it’s a ban on legendaries which happen to include a large portion of the strongest pokemon. i suggest it as the least arbitrary ban and you tried to make it even more arbitrary, please don’t misunderstand lol.

Phione too? Cresselia? What about the Legendary Dogs? I say just ban everything that isn’t allowed in the Battle Maison, Institute, etc… GameFreak knows what’s up.