SRK Competitive Pokemon Battling Thread: Logoghoul and White Shadow Win! Bye Gen 6!

(By the gods, Natural Gift is a fucking complicated attack for something that is one-use.)

Oh, haha. I was unaware that Clefable gets Unaware as its Hidden Ability now despite having used it and a Cosmic Power & Stored Power set–meh, I still think that Magic Guard is superior to Unaware in most instance anyway even with that set. I suppose it doesn’t exactly help my opinion that I’ve seen people stupid enough to use Stored Power as their only attack despite that meaning they get utterly walled by any and every Dark type. I’ve also only seen Unaware Quagsire, who arguably is a better candidate with a better defensive typing, at least while Mega Lucario is running around in OU.

Now I just have to decide between using and making one of two teams for the tournament, though I suppose I could just make both and use only one for the tournament, leaving the other one to test out later.

Don’t worry. It won’t be a Swagger team. Forgot I stumbled across another one of those in replays yesterday. I think it’s the OU one, though I’m too lazy to check right now.

Never mind–it’s the OU one. Made wonder how many (read: few) people are using Lickylicky at present on the server:

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-84333476
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ubers-84335095

2 hours left for signups. 9 peeps means 7 byes, huehuehue.

magic guard is the “standard” clefable but unaware is a great dragon killer

magic guard is a much better ability on stall teams

also, clefable > blissey

I like unaware a lot more since there are better pokemon with magic guard imo. There are no better options if you want unaware.

I guess I should list my unaware set.

Bold
12 spe 252 hp rest in def
Calm mind
moonblast
moonlight/wish
aromatherapy /protect

What are you aiming to outspeed with that EV spread?

clefable is currently the best magic guard pokemon, alakazam and reuniclus have to deal with all the dark attacks flying around

yea…that’s weird to say, clefable is actually good this gen

quagsire is the only other worthy unaware user and yes, clefable is better at it than quagsire, mostly because quagsire still can’t really get by dragons and now there is mega venusaur ruining his shit

what are the 12 speed EVs for?

Aye bro I’m in lol

Oh I see…he wants to outspeed 0 Spe EV Tyranitar.

That’s all I can see for those specific EVs and that particular Speed Tier area. Though the amount of TTars with no Spe investment is a short list.

12 spe is to outspeed minimum spe ttar. I guess its just me but I do use it quite a bit and have never been like oh god I needed magic guard especially since mine runs aromatherapy. Its nice to not have to fear things like Dnite getting too strong to an extent. It’s not just for dragons either come on man it stops BD azumarill and DD gyrados as well as others.

Support Ttar imo its best set runs 0 spe EV’s.

btw Bious for the waifu tourney
where’s the list of banned pokemon

EDIT: FU autocorrect

you got it bull

anyone else?

Infernoman
r00ster22
Zekira
Mood4food
GodotsRevenge
DukeC
Po Pimpus
The Co-Jones
The Damned
Bulldancer

Well now.

…fuck are you kidding me

The one time I use a mobile device to internet

THE ONE TIME

I meant wifi tourney

Let’s see, after digging through some arguments…

Preemptive Standard Tournament Ban List:

Mewtwo
Lugia
Ho-oh
Kyogre
Groudon
Deoxys (All forms)
Rayquaza
Dialga
Palkia
Giratina
Darkrai
Arceus
Zekrom
Reshrim
Kyurem-Black
Kyurem-White
Genesect
Yveital
Xerneas

That Dedenne sweep part 2.
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-84776581

So Darkrai and Deoxys*(who both have BSTs on par with Mewtwo)* are free to terrorize the populace with Dark Void and multiple Formes, but wack ass Black Kyurem is banhammer’d?

We should just flat ban all the Cover Legends and Base 680 dudes on principle instead of trying to be like German Koffing Land and picking and choosing who gets to play based on whichever high-ranked player whines the most.

darkrai and deoxys have a BST of 600, mewtwo has a BST of 670

but i agree, fuck them and get them the hell away from us

i hate kyurem-b with the mighty hammer of thor, but he’s terrible against offensive teams and should be allowed, kyurem straight up sucks

also, fuck skymin, dear god you don’t want that thing (although i’m pretty sure you guys won’t deal with it), but seriously, just add him to the banlist just in case cause he’ll straight up murder everything

ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, since all megas are banned i don’t think anything else would be worthy, i’d say ban the genies cause no one likes them and half of them are stupid anyways but this is clearly a joke

really, outside of what i suggested in this single post, the only other two i would say banworthy are blaziken and thunderus-I and that’s up to you guys

oh, and manaphy…fuck him

Or Bious could just make life easier and get rid of all Legendaries. Obviously not all Legendaries are a big deal (I don’t think anyone is going to cower in fear of things like Uxie any time soon) but it deals with the majority of the issues while also being a much easier objective ban rather than throwing a subjective take on it.

well, kyurem, kyurem-b, and regigigas are definitely manageable
darkrai and skymin run fucking train through standard play, you don’t want these guys
deoxys sets up hazards way too fucking well and smogon is fucking stupid for even letting them in OU, but it’s definitely not as bad as what is automatically banned
manaphy is the only cute legendary that should even be discussed on being banned or not
thunderus-I and landorus-I are the only trio threats that can be banned
blaziken is the only non legendary pokemon that should be discussed being banned

this is all for a non-mega tournament, and i feel a pretty fair list of questionable stuff

Yeah I’m extremely surprised to not see Deoxys, Darkrai, Shaymin Sky Form, and Blaziken listed on there…