It is a ST Vega soft ban lets get it right. You can use Vega just not the wall dives lol. It isn’t a good solution I agree, but its not like it ruins his builds for other places since he is just banned there. It gives a version you could use in SRK battles if you really like blaze I know a lot of people do.
it just causes a shitstorm of people wanting other things legal, basically it could lead to people offering up other restrictions so that all pokemon are now legal, like uber legendaries at level 70, or darkrai without dark void, or skymin without air slash and seed flare…etc, etc
just not a good road to go down
I don’t see that happening on a community of this small scale.
Don’t argue, fight. 
@SaucyPinoy: I just got home a minute ago, if you can give me a couple of hours, I’ll be ready to go any time after that.
As far as my philosophy towards Competitive Pokemon, read on…
ANOTHER LONG ASS SPOILER:
[details=Spoiler]My position has always been to “play it through…” I.E. Don’t ban anything. I feel like any competitive game and community worth its salt will naturally sort through any seemingly overpowered tactic or character. Unless its just overwhelmingly broken, like ST Akuma, the player base is usually clever and resourceful enough to find a way to deal with it.
This stems from two places- The silly, knee-jerk ban happy approach that other place takes, and the smarmy, fascist way they deal with criticism and divergent opinions. To see the vitriol and venom thrown about whenever someone dares to suggest even testing Evasion, from the so-called competitive authority is just shameful… If you’re the “experts,” why do are you so adverse to knowing how every move, strategy and counter-strategy works?
That’s my biggest issue, actually; the logical gymnastics a lot of “competitive” players do to justify all the bans and clauses that tend to boil down to, “I don’t want to have to change my playstyle/team to counter it but I don’t want to lose to it.” That’s a stupid reasoning, no matter what environment you’re in.
my own personal history as a player; I’ve been playing Pokémon since its inception. I’ve battled against RBY Amnesia Mewtwo*(the single most broken Pokémon ever, fuck a Mega Kangaskhan), and I’ve had 200 turn battles due to Double Team(the longest battle I’ve ever had was against a SkarmBliss team that took 378 turns… I won thanks to Snorlax, patience, and crits)*, so when people start talking about “broken” I have a whole other set of criteria that I judge brokeness by. So seeing people complain about something that is nowhere near RBY Mewtwo levels of herp-derp, I laugh, mutter "Rookies" in my Wolverine voice and Nuzzle bitches to death with the Electric Rat…
…and I don’t even consider myself that great a player… I do okay, and I’ve had some big wins over very notable players, but that’s not what I play for. I don’t play to win, I play to explore-- To test limits and expand my horizons. There’s over 700 Pokemon, and I’ve only ever explored maybe 20% of them to see what they can do… That’s too much potential to just leave on the table because its “situational,” “outclassed,” or my favorite, “over-centralizing” (Seriously, that word needs to not be said ever again)[/details]
If I’ve come off as combative or antagonistic, I apologize, but one need only look at the history of dealing with that other place some of us have experienced to know why my fuse is short whenever someone starts tossing that style of rhetoric my way.
It’s a cop-out argument, and being blindly faithful to numbers in such a random and chaotic game is just asking for trouble-- For all your calcs, you could wind up hitting yourself in confusion eight times in a row, or your perfectly predicted switch-in gets nailed with a critical and loses on the next turn to something it normally can beat… THAT is Pokémon, and trying to change that is like trying to play an entirely different *(meta)*game.
A *(meta)*game that hasn’t been all that fun since Generation III…
Ok, just let me know when you are ready
I’m ready to rock whenever you are, dude… Hatching Mudkip trying to get another 5IV for white shadow. Just toss me a request when you’re ready.
I dont think you have me added 4425-1471-8680.
And do you want to do 4 pokemon? I would like to keep it the standard rules for rotation battle.
My bad. Adding now. 4 Mons sounds good to me.
@Po Pimpus lost connection sorry. I’ll take that lost since there is no way for me to win with just vaporeon
That’s cool. No problem.
@po
sometimes, it’s better to just ban things quick then to let the metagame settle, let’s use mega kanga for example, keeping him in the metagame was bad for the development of it, the metagame would become entirely about stopping mega kanga and his supporters/counters alone, this is not healthy, so it’s better off to just ban it for the time being and possibly allow it back in the future, this allows for creativity to flow and for us to find new things in a much quicker manner
mega gengar is a whole other story cause seriously, i don’t even know how to defend this thing being balanced outside of the user making a bad read
this is similar to why akuma was banned in ST, yea he can be beaten, but instead of focusing the game entirely around strategies to beat him, remove him and let the creativity flow, this is the main reason why smogon appears to ban things so quickly
its’ way better to ban something now as you can always reverse the decision in the future, when teh game has settled down and everyone isn’t focusing on stopping a beast
The time you used to make that post is time that could’ve been used to play PW.
Well I won my battle. GG Po, i feel like you went easy on me.
GGs @SaucyPinoy! That last move was a misclick that probably cost me the match… I’m not mad, though, because that was an awesome set.
You earned that W fair and square. Good luck in the next round!
When in the history of EVER has a ban been reversed in the same gen? Never? Yeah I thought so. So Mega Kangaskhan/Mega Gengar/and poor, poor, hated on Blaziken*(not to mention whatever else willyes, WILL, not maybe, guaranteed get banned)* are forced to rot until Gen VII…
Then, some new uber threat will take everyone’s eyes off them until that gets banned, and everyone cries about whatever takes its place in perpetuity until were all back to using Tyranitar/Garchomp/Scizor/Goddamn Washing Machine/Talonflame/Scizor like all the other robots.
EDIT: Yeah, like a Parental Bond boosted Power Up Punch, I posted twice in a row. Get wrecked, noobz :bluu:
garchomp, gen V, was tested in teh beginning and banned, then was later brought down, although thanks to the banning of sand veil, it still happened
only since gen IV has a non-legendary been banned (idk if wobbuffet was banned in gen III), but just because it hasn’t happened, doesn’t mean it will
this also backs up the claim that those pokemon were probably broken no matter what as well
Replace Scizor with Genesect and you’d be spot on. As anal as Smogon is about overcentralizing they sure do want to let Genesect stay in OU…
So long as Genesect stays in OU I’m running parafusionswaggerfoulplay Kfleki. Fuck it. I absolutely detest Kfleki down to the bottom of my heart, but I’m gotdamned tired of Genesects everywhere.
Edit: As a matter of fact, I’m starting to play Ubers, just to get away from the same bullshit in OU. At least I know I can stop the Darkrai shenanigans with MegaMewtoY and Taunt. Then OHKO back with Aura Sphere then proceeed to punch holes in all the Arceuas/Kyogre counters/checks.
genesect should be banned, fuck that thing
Also, just saw this match just now. This man busted out the Transform Smeargle…