Well Wesker does fine without a beam assist honestly. When I play Wesker I just play him as a footsie/runaway character since I don’t usually use beams with him. His teleport mix-ups are really good but even without he is still solid as hell. Also Vajra resets are ridiculous.
In my opinion, there is not one “perfect” character that is going to work in your #2 spot with Strider. I have tried basically every combination that was listed in this thread and put in a LOT of time with each. I wasn’t happy with how any of them played - it always seemed like I was lacking something in my 2/3. The one character that I felt had the most chance with only Strider was Dante, and that’s because he covers almost every angle himself. Even then, every time I was wishing I had a better assist for Dante there.
Vajra is too inconsistent IMO and a lot of characters can beat it out easily. When you play Viper/X/Strider you are hoping that your viper does well, if it doesn’t do well you are left with a sub-par 2/3 and that’s just not the situation you want to be in when you are trying to mount a comeback. You could have Zero in the second slot like Chrisis plays, and Zero does very well because he’s the best character in the game. If he touches you once he can kill you and build bar for Strider to use. I dunno though, how do all of you Zero players feel when you are down to only Zero/Strider? Strider doesn’t compliment a pressure game too well with Zero, so you are basically going to be playing a neutral/buster game and try to land that 1 hit. + the fact that Zero’s assists are not going to help you much (bo-bo shoryuken isn’t that great…) You are throwing yourself into only a Viper/Strider game and a Zero/Strider game, is it really strong enough?
I’ve tried and tried to fit Strider on a Viper team, but it has yet to feel “right” - I was feel like I’m screwed with only Vajra vs. a fully functional synergized team.
IMO Strider is a great neutral assist for Zero. I don’t expect to hit confirm anything off of Vajra with him. His sole reason on the team is to annoy and lockdown. This isn’t an issue because Zero really doesn’t need an assist for confirming as he’s ridiculous at doing that on his own. He also doesn’t need assists to extend his combos since corner carry into lightning loop is all you need.
IMO the best team for Zero is composed of two neutral assists that he can use to dominate the screen until he lands Buster > Lightning. That team is easily Zero/Doom/Strider without much competition. Zero/Viper/Strider (or Viper/Zero/Strider) is fine for Zero, but not ideal IMO. I want to learn the team simply because I’ve been trying to pair Zero & Viper together since vanilla and could never find something that works as well as ZVS.
But again Zero/Doom/Strider is hands down the best Zero team IMO.
Well, remember. Most of the time that you will actually land a hit against a good player with Vaj is going to be in a reset, mixup, or combo. And in those situations Zero can always convert off of it. Also, because of some of his options, Vaj mixups with Zero are very scary.
I think I might eventually do a video on VZS, but I need to explore it more, and get the lightning loop down.
I think I’m going with Zero, wouldn’t it be better to go with ZVS? bk is a great assist for Zero since BK is good for converting off throws without blowing x-factor and unblockables. I know that the DHC is better from Viper to Zero but I think being able for zero to kill off a throw is more valuable. Thoughts?
Zero can convert off an air throw solo by activating sogenmu.
whats better for viper, doom/strider or dante/strider? doom has pb and dante has ws
either works well. go with the charcater you like better.
So is Viper/Zero/Strider considered the best team for Viper right now. Im seeing alot of people jumping onto this team
it’s the new hottness. Right now it sure seems really good.
so throw, land, then activate sogenmu? or does sogenmu have to be activate before the throw?
I’m not at my console so I can’t test it out right now
Air throw>j214A>sogenmu>j236C>Combo. I haven’t tried it myself yet, but Nini says it works and he would know.
Its an interetsing team build and it can work with either zero or viper on point. so seems solid. Also you might wanna try Trish/Viper/Ammy. its a really solid team. And comes with an awesome unblockable
Is it as easy as Zero touched you with 2B?
why is viper/zero/strider the best viper team?
Because Zero is one of the safest characters in the game that can convert a combo nearly anywhere without assist help. Dumb dumb character. Oh yeah lightning loop.
If it aint S tier than I don’t want them on my team, lol… See you tomorrow for some casuals
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lol haha. c ya tomorow
What are the benefits of running hidden missiles assist? I’ve always assumed plasma beam was better. To be more specific, this is with vajra assist as well.
Would you mind telling me what your 780k bnb is? 700k is no problem with bold cancel bnb and assists incorporated, but i have a hard time breaking 750k from a regular hitconfirm (aka not jump s/hammer).
what do you guys do to get in? I’m running Vergil/Viper/Strider-Hawkeye. and once my vergil goes down if I play against a zoner, I get raped.
Edit:
I’ve also been thinking about running a Zero/Viper/Doom team.