Spies like us: The MvC3 C.Viper Team/Matchup Discussion Thread

who the hell has practice against Felicia? i almost got worked the other day by someone who did nothing but spam delta kicks because i didn’t know the matchup; Nemesis j.F+H saved the day. just my two cents.

I always just to Emergency combo>DT or Spiral Sword to beat Delta Kick. That way even if they called an assist, that shit don’t matter.

Hey what do you guys think about a Trish-Viper-Spencer team? Before I was running Viper/Mag/Strider( or Skrull). That was a fun team, but I really like the Trish Viper pairing with round trip into focus attack, and now sword throw seismo assist works now (I don’t think it worked before) and the Spencer assist with Viper can do some damage.

Shit, that just got me thinking - Trish/Viper/Strange or Trish/Strange/Viper…

Trish combo to round harvest raw tag to Viper, dash up, call eye of agamotto, full charge focus attack - would this work/has anybody tried this yet? Aw man, fucking work! I need a ps3 at my desk!

Yeah that makes sense, that command grab mixup game still gives frustration for that match up too, but yes viper has all the beastly tools for that annoying ass cat.

round harvest unblockable setup should work with most assists that lock down for some time, even unibeam will work in that situation. eye of agomotto will definitely work. dr strange would always have to be middle, and trish should probably use high voltage.

i was intrigued with the new trish since she has new combos and does fairly good damage in this game (~650k simple 1 assist combo) i’m not exactly sure if i wanna base my entire team strategy around round harvest though, because trish has to get the 1st hit, which isn’t the easiest thing to do when viper’s assist is probably not very helpful for that purpose (whoever the other assist is has to cover her at the same time).

i’ve been messing with iron man lately as repulsor blast assist does the same thing eye of agomotto / cold star does in tag-in situations. however i don’t feel very comfortable with his movement at the moment since he is no longer a traditional tridash character. it is pretty awesome that he can outfootsie just about anyone in the game though, half screen hitconfirms into full combos are always a good thing to have.

at the end of the day i think i’ll still be playing ammy at SCR ><

Who are some good options to put as an anchor with Viper/Strider?

Strider’s actually a pretty good anchor. I believe he’s got the longest lvl3 X-Factor in the game, and when combined with Orouborus, you’ve basically got at LEAST one chracter automatically dead, more if you’re proficient.

But if you’re not looking to use strider as an anchor, a classic anchor like Sentinel could work. Dorm could also work, but you’d have to be playing a little dry to make that work well.

So, my plot to put Vergil first seems to have failed. Maybe I just have no aptitude for the jerk, but it seems like he needs alot of specific things to help him out or a ton of meter to burn or he just has no mixup at all, and that defeats the purpose of me putting him up front.

Still need to find that final team mate… shrug any ideas? I would really prefer a horizontal weapon of some kind.

Dr. Doom? Plasma Beam also gives you easy mode relaunches. Put him in the middle and he is a strong battery for Strider, while giving Viper Sphere Flame DHC. He also benefits from Vajra a lot.

Plus he is fairly technical. You love technical stuff.

I know, I have put him there before. I dunno, I really don’t like how his beam hits midscreen. It blows the other guy away. It screws up alot of fuzzy guard and BK instant cross-up tricks.

I want my old Vanilla Iron Man back…:frowning:

I don’t know if people are scared or confused, but I really think that you can get the round harvest unblockable setup with strider assist if you dash in and call strider+focus immediately. Even when I tested it on computer they can’t jump out. Vajra keeps it in blockstun. You just have to make sure that you’re not in grab range.

Yeah viper/doom/strider is really nice…can’t say enough about the sphere flame DHC.
@flyingve
Drones is an obvious, albiet boring option also. Why do I rarely see tasky on viper teams…he should have amazing synergy with Viper/strider? But does it have to be a “beam” horiz assist? Cause if not hulk or cap might make for some very interesting teams

I’m going to be in the lab with Viper / Doom / Strider over the next month because on paper that team is GDLK. Great ideas guys, love the Viper boards!

naw, it doesn’t have to be a beam. Hulk and Cap are interesting ideas. I’m not sure the team can support Hulk though…

Does Bolts of Ballsack Juggle?

Bolts has some sweet combo potential - check out JClutch’s (i think that was the name) video in the vid thread. I also just listed my thunder knuckle loop combo in the combo thread using bolts and doom beam. So yeah, you could definitely figure out a way to work it in to any team’s bnb.

edit - maybe i read your question wrong, did you mean does bolts combo its two hits itself or does bolts start out combos well?

I know the Bolts combo’s into itself against a grounded opponent, I was wondering about an airborne guy. Also, I’m not sure a Viper/Strider combo can support strange really well… shrug

@Flyingve

How’s viper working out for you as the creme filling (middle fighter)

That part is actually fine as I don’t feel Viper needs the middle man for combo extensions as much (thanks to Feint buff), and Strider kinda takes care of, well, everything. I’m not opposed to putting her back up front at all, I’m just playing with stuff.

I was seeing some impressive Morrigan stuff the other day using an OTG assist. 700k, builds two bars (pre-super) and involves one hit from the meter draining fireball. I’ve also got some more Vergil ideas I came up with in training mode that I want to try in a real match.

I’ve been using Viper/Doom/Ammy because I love how cold star has that lock down. The Viper/Firebrand/Strider combo is a team I’d like to get to eventually.