Spies like us: The MvC3 C.Viper Team/Matchup Discussion Thread

Yeah, but un-assisted teleport isn’t a very strong mixup.

But what is the OS, I’m curious?

I already do that alot, it’s a very strong option, and the huge hitstun on her jC and jS (especially the jS) let you bing the enemy down for loops from a very big height. Plus you can use the teleport mid combo to control which corner you push them towards. This is important because the corner setups are much stronger then the midscreen MGS setups.

Off of any lets say special move canceled into feral stance usually you’re looking at

  1. Somersault
  2. Dash behind
  3. Dash behind and in the air
  4. Dash Up.

Knowing these I can punish 2 and 3. basically its on teleport hold back C~B it will OS a dash into a throw. I’ve caught Jill everytime out of this seems like I catch her on the 2 frames or something when shes not invincible in the dash. If she dashes behind and in the air then i just jump immediately after back C~B and do Back jC. It avoids dash up and somersault completely.

Ah, yeah, that would work. But I would never use an unassisted teleport, and if I did, I would dash behind into flash kick.

Like any left/right mixup, assists really make it much stronger.

Edit: Just tested in training mode, teleport feral cancel to flash kick fucks that OS hard, and up-back in general.

Hey FlyingVe what other characters would you suggest for a Jill/Viper team. Im not really liking Amaterasu as I feel the team has too low health for me

Well, I’m reluctant to say to much till I finish my vid (it’s almost done), but I think the best assists for Jill are, Drones, Jam Session, Cold Star, and Doom Rocks. They are good for helping you move in, and can be used for a mean post combo reset.

It’s almost done. It’s a bit longer then I planned, but I wanted to cover all my bases.

I see i guess ill be patient =). I was thinking Ironman with repulsor blast

Actually, that would work too. But Repulsor is kinda like a weaker Jam Session (with a soft knockdown), and Dante has alot more utility on a Jill team anyways, so I’d go with that personally. Unibeam isn’t bad with Jill either, but you lose alot of MGS utility.

I don’t know how relevant this is, but my two teams at the moment are, Viper(BK)/IronMan(uni)/Dante(Jam) and Jill(arrow)/Doom(rocks)/Wesker(gun).

Hmm looks like Jill(Arrow)/Viper(Burn Kick or Seismo)/Doom(rocks) would be a good combination.
I probably just wana use ironman cause I just saw the movie and remembered how awesome Ironman is lol

Definitely use the Siesmo. Playing Jill with ought an OTG assist is a no go. You can manage right now thanks to the DHC glitch, but that’s only gonna be around for a few more months. But Jill(Arrow)/Viper(SH)/Doom is solid. You gotta choose between rocks and missiles. Rocks are better for Jill, and Missiles are better for Viper, but both are still good in general. Personally, I would go rocks, because Jill is your point.

yea. damn looks like im gona lose alot trying to learn this team too well. itll be awesome once I get it to be good. =) I gotta learn two characters now haha but doom overall is a really good character. I might have to change him for akuma or dorm against phoenix teams though

I consider Doom as good against that bitch as Akuma or Doom. Finger Lasers (regular and hyper) are good at stopping alot of her nonsense, his XFC guard Cancel lvl3 is the best in the game, and he is decent at running down the XF clock. It’s not a good matchup (I don’t think one exists), but it’s as good for doom as it is for anyone.

i guess. I was thinking dormammu cause he can get two stalking fires on the screen at the same time and deal massive chip against her. But Doom is rly good i think there are a couple traps with hidden missiles

They’re both good, I know Doom has good synergy with Jill and Viper (though they want different assists), and I really don’t know much about dorm. Dorm and Jill can get along, but none of his assists are gonna help her get close.

thats true. well ill try to get better with Jill/Viper/Doom first then try other people out

I don’t want to sound discouraging. I can only really talk about the teams and characters I play, and I do work to make my teams as good as possible. By all means, if you think something sound good, hit the lab and work out some stuff. With flexible characters like Viper, Jill, Doom, or Dorm, you have alot of things to play with.

Iron Fist you complete me.

Iron fist looks badass. I really wanna see his assists. Hopefully he can work well with Viper

Yea he does - though I’m not sure how well he could work with Viper, all depends on his assists. He looks like he can DHC with her - that’s a start.

Meh, I’m not feeling these two.

Iron fist makes me wish Jam was in the game (somehow), and Vergil is just a Dante clone (really disappointing).

Agreed. Although it’s cool to see them in Ultimate, I can’t say I’m all that excited to play these two.

Nova is pretty much the only character left that I’m really hype for. And if he isn’t a disappointment, he will probably end up eating most of my time.