Spies like us: The MvC3 C.Viper Team/Matchup Discussion Thread

How about Viper (TK) / Doom (missles) / Phoenix (shot)? I realize this team is made of glass, but Doom’s missles are great and Phoenix’s shot is not too awful for helping Viper get in. I took clockw0rk’s team and replaced Ammy with Viper, but I’ve yet to try it out in a real match. I’m also thining Viper (TK) / Tron (Gustaff) / Doom (missles) if that is viable. I’d say seismo if it didn’t launch so high. It doesn’t really help Tron extend her combos are far as my testing has gone. Ugh, there are so many sweet characters that I can’t decide.

Not sure if this info is useful or not but in a Viper mirror (is that term used in this game?) my seismo beat out their EX TK lol.

I think Viper uses too much meter to be on a team with Phoenix. Just seems like using viper on point will make stocking up for Dark Phoenix a pretty difficult task. I have been looking at doom a lot since DHC from burst time into Sphere flame is very easy and consistent, but not too damaging. Hidden missiles are just amazing.

I feel ya. It was too hard to keep enough meter saved up and still be effective. I’ve settled for Viper (TK) / Doom (missles) / Ammy (Cold Star). It is working nicely.

How do you guys use the meter?. I use it whit ammy always. What im doing wrong?

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I use meter more for Viper’s EX moves than her Hypers, they’re essential to her more damaging combos, only time I use meter for a Hyper is at the end of a combo (Burst Time), or to punish (Emergency Combination/Full Throttle)

That being said, Ammy is a good meter dump too, Okami Shuffle is just too nice, Vale Mist is okay, good to put the opponent on the defensive, and Instruments has invincibility… plus Viper is difficult to DHC with, but Okami Shuffle can DHC from anything

I’ve been thinking of Doom, Ammy, wesker or Zero for characters to pair up with viper. Doom for the obvious assist and sphere flame dhc. Zero can dhc decently with his rainbow super, and can DHC to keep Viper safe on a whiffed by using his shadow illusion super. Ammy can use her slow down super in the same way, and DHC on hit into her full screen super. And wesker is really effective without meter, for either building meter for viper, or for when viper gets taken out with no meter left. Viper can also DHC into maximum wesker easily.

Also been thinking of Storm.

The biggest problem for me is DHC from other characters supers into Viper. Her supers have such fickle hitboxes. That and canceling siesmos into siesmos feels like its breaking my arm.

My team is Viper Burn Kick Storm whirlwind and Sent A drones.

It works out pretty well for me.

Any combo I do into special with viper I can HDC to hailstorm and if I really want to kill them I can DHC again into Sentinels ball special or w.e the hell it is.

Sent and viper in the corner is gdlk.
Burnkick while flying with sent frying pan down to cr med to launcher has worked every time for me.

Magneto is a great battery for Viper, and if you find yourself in a combo with Viper with a good amount of meter, Gravity Squeeze can be DHC’d from ANYTHING for serious damage (plus his Disruptor is a great beam assist to help Viper get in). Plus you can DHC Magnetic Tempest/Shockwave -> Burst Time and Burst Time -> Magnetic Shockwave.

Tron too, she does good damage with 0-1 Hyper Bars, King Kobun can DHC to Burst Time, and Lunch Rush can DHC to Emergency Combination/Full Throttle, plus Gustaff Fire is a great gtfo assist, and if you use Viper’s Burning Kick assist, Tron’s c.:l: (which hits multiple times) can EASILY set up unblockables.

I’ve changed my team to Viper(BK)/Sentinel(Drones)/Tron(Gustaff)

Viper seriously needs a good direct semi-invinci assist to get her rushdown going. Sent Drones are good but they come out too slow and become a liability to random projectile supers among other things. Gustaff assist almost feels like Psylocke assist (wish I had that lol) which makes her tri-jump hi/low/cross up, BK overhead+cross up, BK Feint game just ridiculous and everything is hit confirmable off of Gustaff into a combo but hit stun decay and damage scaling gets cranked up and the most dmg you can eek out is 400-500k I think. That being said you can also use Gustaff for some really good resets within the box dash loop and landing a full combo on top of a reset or two = dead character which I think is necessary as Viper can’t one touch kill anyone like a good portion of the cast.

i’m currently trying to run viper/tron/dante as a second team. i think this can go well as soon as i get used to it. gustaff fire is just ridiculous and tron is too nice of a character, and dante is just fun. i think he also is a good endgame character and i like weasel shot as an assist. dhc’s work well anywhere on the screen and viper can use all the meter, since both dante and tron can do descent damage with one bar and gain a good amount of it during combos.

viper/doom/wolverine work well together. been working on this team for a couple of days. nothing special yet, but there good, got potential.

Right now i’m running Spider-Man (Web Ball)/ Viper (BK)/ Doom (Beam usually). Spidey and Viper are my 2 favorites on each side and they have a good thing going since BK hits high and Spider-Man’s magic series is done low if you know what’s good for you and thanks to that viper combo video i think i can get the timing for web ball assist to be a combo extender for Viper. Doom is just there to get me in when i need to, i kind of want to replace him but it works fairly well so i might just learn him.

And SlyChivas we have unfinished business, we can handle this on MvC3 but i’d rather this viper mirror go down SSF4 style lol.

Bring it dude, i’ll be on today after 5:00pm EST. Hope the lag isn’t terrible.

But yea I traded Wesker for Doom, his molecular shield is better IMO, and running wolverine & Viper def. helpd a lot more.

i’ll add you on xbl later on. And all of doom’s assist just seem to be really good, when i play i’m literally taking 20-30 secs tryna debate which one to go with. Molecular shield probably has some mix up strengths since it’s slower than the beam. I got my team’s threads open doing the research now lol.

sounds good, i like his hidden missiles, but they usually fuck up my combo and i don’t know how it use it properly. so yea.

@keizion: i only have mvc3 on ps3. just hit me up whenver, lata

I’ve also found taskmaster to be decent in pairing with viper. Can DHC into his upward legion arrows in the corner, and his assist can be variable depending on your third. That being said, I still doubt that I will use him. I am definitely looking at trying Magneto out, and I’ll give Tron a try since I was focusing on her a lot during the first week of the game.

Is Dorm a good partner for Viper? If so I might have him join team Milf and Friends.

I’m not sure, I don’t know too much about Dormammu, but there’s no real DHC’s between the two, Dark Hole could be a useful assist for Dormammu, but I’m not sure about Viper (I guess Thunder Knuckle for AAA?).

Biggest issue I see is that both Dorm and Viper will want to spend your meter, and they don’t like to share…

I wonder if Burst Time to Floating Bomb will work, I’ll have to test that out later. I thought the meter would be an issue, maybe it’s not such a good idea after all. I just always wanted to pick up Dorm and Viper is my main but I guess I just can’t slap them on a team together. But I’ll try it out and see how it works and if not I’ll just go to Wesker most likely. Thanks for the input!